Professor Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 A lot of Saints' fans will have had a great deal of pleasure watching how well Graziano has performed for Italy in the Euros. I really feel for him this morning as he will be devastated by that penalty miss, which if scored, would have taken Italy past Germany into the Semi-Finals. There is an element of luck with penalties as the keeper has to make a decision, whether to dive and if so which way, so that sometimes luck will be with the keeper. But this miss by Pellé was a real miss, beyond the post, which is worse than having your kick saved. Good reasons of course - the pressure of the occasion and the exhaustion after 120 minutes of football - I don't think he deserves to be blamed and he was far from being the only player to fail to score in the penalty competition, but I do think it highlights how exceptional both Matt Le Tiss and Rickie Lambert were, as penalty takers. Although I was rooting for Italy, I'm also quite pleased that we will have Graziano back for pre-season earlier than might have been the case. As always for some of us, it's club before country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 anyone missing the goal from a free kick, 12 yards out is unforgivable. Let alone giving it the big one before taking the shot, like pelle did a bit Zaza's was worse and Muller's was just plain daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Faz Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 anyone missing the goal from a free kick, 12 yards out is unforgivable. Let alone giving it the big one before taking the shot, like pelle did a bit Zaza's was worse and Muller's was just plain daft Ive always wondered why he didnt take them for us - you'd think any striker - especially an international - would fancy taking pens and adding a few more to their tally each season. Instead weve had Tadic, JWP and Sadio take them instead - none of which have filled with the same confidence as Lambert . I know it was a high pressure situation, but his kick was terrible . I can now see why we used the others ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 (edited) anyone missing the goal from a free kick, 12 yards out is unforgivable. Let alone giving it the big one before taking the shot, like pelle did a bit Zaza's was worse and Muller's was just plain daft Yes Matt Le Tissier - you ought to be ashamed of yourself for missing that one..... but whilst we're on the subject of missed penalties...........Schweinsteiger's miss didn't impress me either.......... Edited 3 July, 2016 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Was a poor miss but not the worst of the night at least, Zaza's was horrible - that run up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Pelle's penalty last night really was one of the worst I have seen in a long time. It certainly demonstrated to me why he has never taken one for Saints (thankfully). Even if it had been on target it was so weak Neuer would have saved it with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Yes Matt Le Tissier - you ought to be ashamed of yourself for missing that one..... but whilst we're on the subject of missed penalties...........Schweinsteiger's miss didn't impress me either.......... Pedant Klaxon ....... MLT's penalty was not a MISS .... it was saved. Pelle's was a MISS, and a poor one at that!! He seems more comfortable striking a ball on the volley than stationary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Pedant Klaxon ....... MLT's penalty was not a MISS .... it was saved. Pelle's was a MISS, and a poor one at that!! He seems more comfortable striking a ball on the volley than stationary. Could be worse we could have just paid 30 million for a player and then have seen him blast his penalty wide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsbignose Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Context is everything. Back to back games, 120 minutes against the best opposition in the world and the pressure of knowing success would mean your country going through. No wonder some buckled, I bet it was all he could do to even walk to the spot and Neuer did look huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 IA lot of Saints' fans will have had a great deal of pleasure watching how well Graziano has performed for Italy in the Euros. I really feel for him this morning as he will be devastated by that penalty miss, which if scored, would have taken Italy past Germany into the Semi-Finals. There is an element of luck with penalties as the keeper has to make a decision, whether to dive and if so which way, so that sometimes luck will be with the keeper. But this miss by Pellé was a real miss, beyond the post, which is worse than having your kick saved. Good reasons of course - the pressure of the occasion and the exhaustion after 120 minutes of football - I don't think he deserves to be blamed and he was far from being the only player to fail to score in the penalty competition, but I do think it highlights how exceptional both Matt Le Tiss and Rickie Lambert were, as penalty takers. Although I was rooting for Italy, I'm also quite pleased that we will have Graziano back for pre-season earlier than might have been the case. As always for some of us, it's club before country. Pelle wasn't 'that' good in the Euro's and in one game didn't turn up at all...... The pen miss was very poor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Pelle was clearly petrifed with nerves, as were several other players on both sides. The irony is that the 120th minute substitution of 'penalty taker' Zaza for Chiellini ultimately cost Italy the game. Overall, up until that point, I think Pelle had a very good tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 It was a poor penalty, the worst since... Italy's previous one! However, as much as it is criminal not to hit the target, the real embarrassment were his pre-penalty antics. Telling Neuer you're going to chip him with a load of bravado, and then squirming it wide... Face Palm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Context is everything. Back to back games, 120 minutes against the best opposition in the world and the pressure of knowing success would mean your country going through. No wonder some buckled, I bet it was all he could do to even walk to the spot and Neuer did look huge! Pelle was clearly petrifed with nerves, as were several other players on both sides. The irony is that the 120th minute substitution of 'penalty taker' Zaza for Chiellini ultimately cost Italy the game. Overall, up until that point, I think Pelle had a very good tournament. I think you might forgive a missed penalty, possibly even a poorly taken one, but the posturing and gesturing beforehand .. and then missing it, no. Made himself look a 'show pony' without being able to deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 anyone missing the goal from a free kick, 12 yards out is unforgivable. Yeah it's real proof of a player not being great. Anyone who can kick a ball should at least hit it between the posts. Nerves and circumstances have nothing to do with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KKJIRELNcY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Yeah it's real proof of a player not being great. Anyone who can kick a ball should at least hit it between the posts. Nerves and circumstances have nothing to do with it. where did I say it was a barometer for being great or not? i suspect Messi would think missing the target from that range is unforgivable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 As others have said, it's criminal for a professional striker, playing at the highest level of football to completely miss the target from 12 yards out. It's one thing having a penalty saved, but missing the goal completely is unforgivable - at least make the GK save it. He's clearly a striker that struggles when he has time to think about things, if it was instinct (e.g. goal v QPR) he's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Yeah it's real proof of a player not being great. Anyone who can kick a ball should at least hit it between the posts. Nerves and circumstances have nothing to do with it. Ronaldo, for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Context is everything. Back to back games, 120 minutes against the best opposition in the world and the pressure of knowing success would mean your country going through. No wonder some buckled, I bet it was all he could do to even walk to the spot and Neuer did look huge! Thought that a few players looked as if they've had their dose of football for the 15/16 season actually. They've been at it for a year solid in some cases and they'll be back in action in about 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Shows how good the Portuguese pens were the other night . If you're going to give it the big one before taking it , you've got to score . He made himself look a right plum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Stats prove it's all about controlling the situation and once you get to a certain level, is a lot more about mental strength than technical ability. Pellè's pen was weak and wide, he must have either let nerves get to him which took away his power because his legs were tentative, or changed his mind at the last second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 https://mobile.twitter.com/footballitalia/status/749517779909406720 Seems he shouldn't show boat if you play for Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Poor lad. Clearly absolutely bricking it and just obviously trying to convince himself as much as anyone that he's not nervous. He's had a fantactic tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 anyone missing the goal from a free kick, 12 yards out is unforgivable. Let alone giving it the big one before taking the shot, like pelle did a bit Zaza's was worse and Muller's was just plain daft Yes, I thought that. When he did that idiotic run up, pointing to the keeper, I almost knew he was going to f*ck it up. The penalties that went in were all head down, concentrate on the ball and hit it where you've been told to by the coaching staff. The misses were mainly by players trying to showboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Seen worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Seen worser https://youtu.be/8Lkx9ZWX0ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 I would also have a problem kicking a ball accurately while trying not to crap myself in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 I don't have an issue with him or others missing pens, it must have been nerves getting the better of them in that situation. I do feel he made a bit of a **** of himself with his stupid cockiness before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 But basically that Zaza bloke farked it up for them. Brought on just for the shoot out and he does that after Buffon saved the first German penalty. If the knob had been anything but utterly stupid it would have been all over before Pelle's turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Zaza https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/BA15F059241094744628097339392_23f6c737e4f.0.4.5846818678816900021.mp4?versionId=YBPdKxzu5aame0A7M5FG1x3pvU3aeVj7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N4jeSJg7uA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 ^^^ priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 ^^^ In the future, all England penalties should be taken by seagulls and lolcats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 ^^^ In the future, all England penalties should be taken by seagulls and lolcats. Seagulls, eh? I took my girlfriend out seagulling last night. Most people call it dogging, but you should see the state of my car this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 3 July, 2016 Share Posted 3 July, 2016 Seagulls, eh? I took my girlfriend out seagulling last night. Most people call it dogging, but you should see the state of my car this morning. We are talking about penalties here. The important information is who scored, how many times, and how many efforts were just blasted into the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 4 July, 2016 Share Posted 4 July, 2016 Pedant Klaxon ....... MLT's penalty was not a MISS .... it was saved. Pelle's was a MISS, and a poor one at that!! He seems more comfortable striking a ball on the volley than stationary. Yes, I think he'd be better doing it on the move - though why break the habit of a lifetime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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