Batman Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 I don't think anyone is denying he would improve us, but is he worth over 20 million and smashing our pay structure for? I don't think he is what if he cost £13m and didnt smash the WBA pay structure but we never even went for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 what if he cost £13m and didnt smash the WBA pay structure but we never even went for him? You'd have to get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 I don't think anyone is denying he would improve us, but is he worth over 20 million and smashing our pay structure for? I don't think he is Is this a pay structure the club has told fans about? I must have missed that. How does it work? What is the limit? What is Morgan's wage? What is he asking for now? Is it not all private information and paper guesswork? The nearest thing to evidence of an actual wage figure is Gold saying Austin wasn't worth the £100k a week he wanted. Saints fans don't want to believe that we are paying him that, but I'm willing to. If we are, that means we wouldn't be going far beyond that to pay Morgan the £120k a week wages he may or may not be getting or wanting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 28 December, 2016 Share Posted 28 December, 2016 Is this a pay structure the club has told fans about? I must have missed that. How does it work? What is the limit? What is Morgan's wage? What is he asking for now? Is it not all private information and paper guesswork? The nearest thing to evidence of an actual wage figure is Gold saying Austin wasn't worth the £100k a week he wanted. Saints fans don't want to believe that we are paying him that, but I'm willing to. If we are, that means we wouldn't be going far beyond that to pay Morgan the £120k a week wages he may or may not be getting or wanting now. Common sense tells you we aren't paying anyone 100k a week. Numerous articles recently have stated we offered Fonte near 70k and top wage at the club. One of the principle reasons players want to leave us is because we can't pay the bug wages that they can get at the top clubs. It's just common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 29 December, 2016 Share Posted 29 December, 2016 Is this a pay structure the club has told fans about? I must have missed that. How does it work? What is the limit? What is Morgan's wage? What is he asking for now? Is it not all private information and paper guesswork? The nearest thing to evidence of an actual wage figure is Gold saying Austin wasn't worth the £100k a week he wanted. Saints fans don't want to believe that we are paying him that, but I'm willing to. If we are, that means we wouldn't be going far beyond that to pay Morgan the £120k a week wages he may or may not be getting or wanting now. Our top earners are on around 70 to 80k a week. So if Morgan wants 120k that's 50% more than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 December, 2016 Share Posted 29 December, 2016 I don't think anyone is denying he would improve us, but is he worth over 20 million and smashing our pay structure for? I don't think he is Spot on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 I still believe we need this man in our side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 I still believe we need this man in our side Only morons don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 I still believe we need this man in our side and a striker, but I am not sure we will buy anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 Only morons don't.how many goals did he score for us? we need a goalscoring midfielder, a striker and suspect can find another ball winning midfielder elsewhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 how many goals did he score for us? we need a goalscoring midfielder, a striker and suspect can find another ball winning midfielder elsewhere in the world. We can sign a striker as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 We couldn't afford to keep him and I'm sure we can't afford to buy him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 how many goals did he score for us? we need a goalscoring midfielder, a striker and suspect we can find another ball winning midfielder elsewhere in the world. We found Classie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 December, 2016 Share Posted 31 December, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/31/man-utd-transfer-news-west-brom-make-20m-morgan-schneiderlin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 January, 2017 Share Posted 1 January, 2017 We couldn't afford to keep him and I'm sure we can't afford to buy him back. How are West Brom affording him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 1 January, 2017 Share Posted 1 January, 2017 If we sell VvD, I want him back to help alongside Romeu make our next CB look top class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 January, 2017 Share Posted 1 January, 2017 How are West Brom affording him? New Chinese owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 January, 2017 Share Posted 1 January, 2017 New Chinese owners. Financial Fair Play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 1 January, 2017 Share Posted 1 January, 2017 Financial Fair Play? As of yet they haven't afforded him. Don't get sucked into believing media hype or that a bid is a completed deal. When it comes to his wages, it'll become a sticking point and he'll go to Everton. They themselves are in a similar position but have the luxury of probably selling Lukaku in the summer and also they have ambitions to be able to qualify for Europe and so will pay for it that way. Whoever signs him will have to qualify for Europe very quickly or sell him again (WBA/Everton). WBA if they miss out on the other hand can tell everyone how ambitious they're being by going close to signing him and boost the reputation of their club in the hope to get someone else in on lesser wages. All the hype drives the price up and everyone is a winner. Except Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 3 January, 2017 Share Posted 3 January, 2017 It appears that United is determined to recoup all they spent on Morgan from everton or WBA as they rejected their offers of £19m and £18m respectively, although Morgan is not up to the standard they expected and proved to be a wrong-signing. This is the reason why everyone wants to take our valuable players as we sell them cheap and it is quite certain that the players will be re-sold with huge profit (if they are up to the standard as expected, e.g. mane) and with any loss (even if they are not up to standard). Is there anything wrong with our pricing policy? Must we sell our valuable player cheaply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 January, 2017 Share Posted 3 January, 2017 Financial Fair Play? No such thing anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Signing for Koeman £22m next 48 hours Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Great signing for Koeman - fair play Be interesting to see if Spider can recapture his previous form, never really got a chance at United for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Schneiderlin & Gueye is a very nice midfield pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 It appears that United is determined to recoup all they spent on Morgan from everton or WBA as they rejected their offers of £19m and £18m respectively, although Morgan is not up to the standard they expected and proved to be a wrong-signing. This is the reason why everyone wants to take our valuable players as we sell them cheap and it is quite certain that the players will be re-sold with huge profit (if they are up to the standard as expected, e.g. mane) and with any loss (even if they are not up to standard). Is there anything wrong with our pricing policy? Must we sell our valuable player cheaply? You're ignoring the fact that in the two years between selling Spider and the start of this season (the last transfer window), you've had the massive new TV deals agreed which effectively creates inflation within the game. Spider was the best defensive midfielder sold in that window at £25m, the comparison is N'Golo Kante who went at £37m in the summer. He is now the benchmark in terms of cost. (You can argue a few million about who the better player is, but I'll leave that for each to judge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 It appears that United is determined to recoup all they spent on Morgan from everton or WBA as they rejected their offers of £19m and £18m respectively, although Morgan is not up to the standard they expected and proved to be a wrong-signing. This is the reason why everyone wants to take our valuable players as we sell them cheap and it is quite certain that the players will be re-sold with huge profit (if they are up to the standard as expected, e.g. mane) and with any loss (even if they are not up to standard). Is there anything wrong with our pricing policy? Must we sell our valuable player cheaply? What price would you have put on Mané? He went for £38.5m (inc add ons) and you have no idea what the contract included regarding sell on clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Signing for Koeman £22m next 48 hours Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 22 million sounds expensive to me,didn't we sell him for 24 million? That will put pressure on Koeman for it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Great signing for Everton. Really decent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 22 million sounds expensive to me,didn't we sell him for 24 million? That will put pressure on Koeman for it to work. Seems it's 24m after add ons. Good deal for United - I think it will be tough at Everton for him. He looked shot at United and Everton fans will expect a lot from him but Koeman just might be able to get him going again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Signing for Koeman £22m next 48 hours Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pretty expensive for a player who is available for £13m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Good signing for Everton. Hasnt become a bad player overnight and wouldnt have signed for them 2 years ago. For a January signing, its a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Good signing for Everton. Comfortably better than any of our midfielders despite his limited game time. As others have said, Everton have a pretty impressive midfield pairing in him and Gueye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Any sell on cause money which might come our way by the selling of Morgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Great signing for Everton. Really decent player. Not so good for Morgan though....not quite the CL giants he saw himself finishing his career at I'm sure. Still I guess he has his cherished FA cup winners medal for the final he didn't actually play in and a shed load of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 a £13m bargain then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Seems it's 24m after add ons. Good deal for United - I think it will be tough at Everton for him. He looked shot at United and Everton fans will expect a lot from him but Koeman just might be able to get him going again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So man U have basically made back pretty much all the money they paid for him despite seemingly making him a worse player than when joined them...fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 For a player who was fed up with watching Champions League games..bit of a come down really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 compare that to Sakho signing for southampton for the same sort of figure that would be funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 So man U have basically made back pretty much all the money they paid for him despite seemingly making him a worse player than when joined them...fair play. Yep think they have played a blinder here praying on Everton desperation to back the manager. Good player for us abysmal at United in games I saw. I always thought he would go to PSG not to the 3rd best team in Merseyside Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 compare that to Sakho signing for southampton for the same sort of figure that would be funny You thinking that's likely is funnier Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Schneiderlin & Gueye is a very nice midfield pairing. I think Everton will build a decent side - Morgan and Gueye is v.good. Add Depay and get Bolasie fit again + Lukaku..... Ouch If they did manage to get VVD too (please no) plus a decent keeper (Hart maybe) then they could break into the top 6 no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Good signing for Everton. Comfortably better than any of our midfielders despite his limited game time. As others have said, Everton have a pretty impressive midfield pairing in him and Gueye. He's not "comfortably better" than OR. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 He's not "comfortably better" than OR. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 How surprising that he wasn't available for 13 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 He's not "comfortably better" than OR. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Indeed - "Comfortably" doesn't really do it justice....... Streets ahead of OR, is more apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Yes, he really is. Not for me, he was very good but Romeu on his day is a match. Look who Morgan played with compared to Romeu. Don't play for good clubs like Chelsea , Barca and us if poor :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 He's not "comfortably better" than OR. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He is, by a country mile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 He's world class. Surprised he picked Everton when could have gone to Barca or Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 I think Everton will build a decent side - Morgan and Gueye is v.good. Add Depay and get Bolasie fit again + Lukaku..... Ouch If they did manage to get VVD too (please no) plus a decent keeper (Hart maybe) then they could break into the top 6 no problem. If I spent £140m of a wealthy owners money, adding players to my squad, I'd be expecting the owner to state champions league was the aim, not 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 January, 2017 Share Posted 10 January, 2017 Indeed - "Comfortably" doesn't really do it justice....... Streets ahead of OR, is more apt. That Carrick must be some player then. if he was as good as biased people on here think , he wouldn't be signing for Everton Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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