Krueger Speaks

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southamptons-krueger-says-need-make-transfer-policy-clear-fans/

basically saying that if w bid like £33m comes in for a player like Mane and he wants to go, we have to do it.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southamptons-krueger-says-need-make-transfer-policy-clear-fans/

 

basically saying that if w bid like £33m comes in for a player like Mane and he wants to go, we have to do it.

Can't wait for this summer then...

- Fonte

- Virgil

- Bertrand

- Romeu

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southamptons-krueger-says-need-make-transfer-policy-clear-fans/

 

basically saying that if w bid like £33m comes in for a player like Mane and he wants to go, we have to do it.

No one was annoyed at mane being sold. Quite a few were miffed that the replacements we have got in for sold players are very much inferior to the guys we sold which has left us a lot weaker.

Can't wait for this summer then...

 

- Fonte

- Virgil

- Bertrand

- Romeu

dont forget, we are a special club though, different to the others and a bit like Bayern Munich

cheers Ralphy

No one was annoyed at mane being sold. Quite a few were miffed that the replacements we have got in for sold players are very much inferior to the guys we sold which has left us a lot weaker.

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

Is...

- Austin really inferior to Pelle

- Boufal really inferior to Mane

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama

???

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southamptons-krueger-says-need-make-transfer-policy-clear-fans/

 

basically saying that if w bid like £33m comes in for a player like Mane and he wants to go, we have to do it.

Perhaps somebody will find the article where he said all transfer money would be spent on players in

Krueger says he has to make transfer policy clear to fans.............

2016/17 - Mane, Wanyama, Pelle

2015/16 - Morgan, Clyne

2014/15 - Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Lambert

Thanks Ralph I think we got it

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

 

Is...

 

- Austin really inferior to Pelle

- Boufal really inferior to Mane

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama

 

???

 

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

 

Is...

 

- Austin really inferior to Pelle

- Boufal really inferior to Mane

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama

 

???

 

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

Krueger says he has to make transfer policy clear to fans.............

 

2016/17 - Mane, Wanyama, Pelle

2015/16 - Morgan, Clyne

2014/15 - Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Chambers, Lambert

 

Thanks Ralph I think we got it

Do you have a viable alternative strategy you would like to outline?

Does it involve...

- letting Wanyama's contract run out in summer 2017 and him leaving for £0?

- or signing players that none of the rich clubs would want to buy in the future?

Football has a pecking order, Saints will never be at the top of it. So if we are to have very good players you have to accept they will be sold. We simply can't compete with Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal & Man Utd on wages.

So stop with these daft threads you start and posts and engage your brain.

Do you have a viable alternative strategy you would like to outline?

 

Does it involve...

 

- letting Wanyama's contract run out in summer 2017 and him leaving for £0?

- or signing players that none of the rich clubs would want to buy in the future?

 

Football has a pecking order, Saints will never be at the top of it. So if we are to have very good players you have to accept they will be sold. We simply can't compete with Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal & Man Utd on wages.

 

So stop with these daft threads you start and posts and engage your brain.

You have to be the most annoying, patronising poster in the history of the internet. People wonder why not many bother posting anymore? YOU engage your brain.

You say he was a premtive replacement for Pelle, it wasnt put that way at the time and the majority of us felt we needed another forward to bolster alongside Pelle, not replacing him, oh and yes IMO at this moment Mane would be preferable to Boufal and Wanyama to Romeau (although it is a close run thing) as Wanyama on his day is the much better player

The interest from China in Pelle started to be reported in January 2016. We signed Austin in Janaury as the opportunity to get him cheap came up. The club have briefed the press Austin was indeed a pre-emptive replacement for Pelle. Some Saints fans appear to think that a replacement can only be signed after the original player leaves.

Should have just kept his mouth shut everyman and his dog knows we'd sell our grannie for a profit!

Should of started with, Krueger speaks....and speaks....and speaks....and speaks....etc....

Do you have a viable alternative strategy you would like to outline?

 

Does it involve...

 

- letting Wanyama's contract run out in summer 2017 and him leaving for £0?

- or signing players that none of the rich clubs would want to buy in the future?

 

Football has a pecking order, Saints will never be at the top of it. So if we are to have very good players you have to accept they will be sold. We simply can't compete with Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal & Man Utd on wages.

 

So stop with these daft threads you start and posts and engage your brain.

To answer your question -

signing players that none of the rich clubs would want to buy in the future? Nope my suggestion is we buy players other clubs want, but we don't bend over and sell as soon as they ask.

letting Wanyama's contract run out in summer 2017 and him leaving for £0? Wanyama is on 75k per week at Spurs, we could have matched that. And even if he did want to leave this summer, we got about £8-9m for him after sell on % and fees. He could have been the difference in us being dumped out of Europe at the first hurdle, the potential difference in getting to Wembley (EFL cup) and could be the difference in finishing 7th vs 13th. The merit money alone for finishing 7th is £28m this season vs £16m for 13th place sides.

Would like to see the club gamble on some success once in a while

As for daft threads......

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57626-Puel-vs-Koeman-Comparsion-after-17-Premier-League-games#.WHzcpflTIu4

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57490-Puel-the-Tinkerman-it-is-working!#.WHzcwflTIu4

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57161-Play-the-diamond-love-the-diamond!#.WHzc2_lTIu4

The interest from China in Pelle started to be reported in January 2016. We signed Austin in Janaury as the opportunity to get him cheap came up. The club have briefed the press Austin was indeed a pre-emptive replacement for Pelle. Some Saints fans appear to think that a replacement can only be signed after the original player leaves.

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

 

Is...

 

- Austin really inferior to Pelle yes

- Boufal really inferior to Mane yes

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama yes

 

??? say no more

 

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

yes ,yes and yes without doubt

To answer your question -

 

signing players that none of the rich clubs would want to buy in the future? Nope my suggestion is we buy players other clubs want, but we don't bend over and sell as soon as they ask.

 

letting Wanyama's contract run out in summer 2017 and him leaving for £0? Wanyama is on 75k per week at Spurs, we could have matched that. And even if he did want to leave this summer, we got about £8-9m for him after sell on % and fees. He could have been the difference in us being dumped out of Europe at the first hurdle, the potential difference in getting to Wembley (EFL cup) and could be the difference in finishing 7th vs 13th. The merit money alone for finishing 7th is £28m this season vs £16m for 13th place sides.

 

Would like to see the club gamble on some success once in a while

 

As for daft threads......

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57626-Puel-vs-Koeman-Comparsion-after-17-Premier-League-games#.WHzcpflTIu4

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57490-Puel-the-Tinkerman-it-is-working!#.WHzcwflTIu4

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57161-Play-the-diamond-love-the-diamond!#.WHzc2_lTIu4

So make a player see out his contract when he doesn't want to stay? Similar to Payet? Bonkers. If a player wants to leave there is nothing a club can do. It never ends well. Best you can hope for is you get another season out of them, like we generally do. I don't understand why our fans can grasp this.

I don't have a problem with us selling any of the players who've left. Berahino and Fonte have shown the credibility of keeping a player who doesn't want to be here. If we're getting North of £30m for players, that's fine by me.

What annoys me is the substandard replacements we've brought in.

Clasie, Martina, Long, Redmond, Juanmi, Cedric, Bertrand, Gardos and Romeu are the the kind of bargain bin players Lowe would have gone for. Whilst Bertrand has turned out good and Romeu is much improved, the rest just seem like cheap options to me. Then there's the enigma of JWP, in his 5th season of distinctly forgettable performances and still getting in the team.

Bayern Munich? Ralph is just a soundbite machine. Full of sh*t.

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

 

Is...

 

- Austin really inferior to Pelle

- Boufal really inferior to Mane

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama

 

???

 

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

I have never ever seen the club state Austin was a replacement for Pelle. When Austin was signed Pelle's thoughts were a long way from China so it's a myth. I also don't think Boufal is comparable to Mane unfortunately. Skilful but nowhere near the final product.

yes ,yes and yes without doubt

Difficult to argue with that.

Pelle was twice the striker Austin is. He had more skill on the ball, sharper movement, was better in the air, and was actually able to hold the ball up successfully.

Boufal appears to be more of a trickster than Mane was but is slower, less direct and doesn't seem to make the same off the ball runs that cut through oppositions defences. Based on current performances it's possible that Boufal could become a player on the same level as Mane, but as it stands he's not as good.

Romeu and Wanyama is pretty close, but Wanyama's physicality will always come out on top. Romeu has better distribution and is probably the more technical of the two, but in the PL it's Wanyama who has the better skill set.

So make a player see out his contract when he doesn't want to stay? Similar to Payet? Bonkers. If a player wants to leave there is nothing a club can do. It never ends well. Best you can hope for is you get another season out of them, like we generally do. I don't understand why our fans can grasp this.

Clubs turn down bids for players all the time - they dont all sulk and refuse to play.

For every Payet and Berahino you have examples of Lacazette, Suarez, Sanchez, Lukaku, De Gea, Baines, Wilson, Deeney who accept the clubs decision and get on with there jobs. Why would us blocking a player always be the Payet outcome? Very few end like that

Why is anybody the slightest bit surprised at his comments?

Geez, we have a cup semi final at home & we still have tickets for sale on the day of the game........not so bad if we had a 75000 seat stadium, but we are not even half that.

Get a grip FFS!

Think he must be on some kind of different planet to everyone else. How are we different exactly? We do what everyone else does. If we have a player someone else wants and we receive a valuation that matches what Kat/Ralph/Les want then they will go. Everton didn't want to sell Stones, he left. I doubt Spurs wanted to sell Bale but he left. Looks as though Costa at Chelsea will be off too eventually. It is all about money.

The only thing we do different is we sell a high volume of players every summer. Key players. Other teams will let maybe one or two go but I doubt many if any have sold the amount we have.

One of the main thing that annoys me with his and the clubs 'tone' is that it tries to imply we have to do that somehow to survive. If we are getting £100m a season just from domestic tv that seems crazy that we are in that position.

Southampton chairman concedes club are transfer ‘springboard’, and agents are well aware

 

If the agent of a talented young footballer was looking for a club in the Premier League which would allow his client to grow, provide him a platform, and then sell him when a bigger club came calling… Then Southampton would be a pretty good choice.

 

With a reputation for locating, signing and nutruing young talent, Southampton fans may well be furstrated that the process often ends with the footballer being sold.

 

The club’s chairman Ralph Krueger has told German magazine Kicker that this is an open situation, and it’s what happened with Sadio Mane: “Mane came from Salzburg in 2014 with a dream to one day play in a big club. He knew that he’d get the chance to develop himself, that he could make mistakes. We have patience. Players and agents have long been aware of this.”

 

Whilst that benefits Southampton because players see the club as a route to the very top, it’s not so fun when the time comes for a star to leave, but Krueger wants to change that.

 

Accepting that Pierre-Emile Højbjerg joined for the same reasons as Mane, Krueger said: “Naturally. He had a lot of offers from the Premier League, but has decided for us for exactly that reason. In the meantime, he shows regularly what he can do. But we do not always want to be just a springboard. Perhaps Pierre-Emile is the first generation of a ten-year generation. This must be our next step.”

 

If Højbjerg has come with the intention of moving on to bigger things sooner or later, then he may not be happy if he’s still at Southampton in a decade. It’s difficult next step for the club to take, especially with Champions League football being so hard to attain.

 

When it was put to Krueger that some Premier League clubs don’t know what to do with their money, and make a mess of transfers, the Southampton boss replied: “Many think only in the short term. The transfer market is evolving to madness, especially the prices for average players.”

 

That’s why on recruitment Krueger insists Southampton will “only listen to our scouts”, and hopefully get better value.

 

Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-chairman-concedes-club-transfer-springboard-wants-change-things/

Think he must be on some kind of different planet to everyone else. How are we different exactly? We do what everyone else does. If we have a player someone else wants and we receive a valuation that matches what Kat/Ralph/Les want then they will go. Everton didn't want to sell Stones, he left. I doubt Spurs wanted to sell Bale but he left. Looks as though Costa at Chelsea will be off too eventually. It is all about money.

The only thing we do different is we sell a high volume of players every summer. Key players. Other teams will let maybe one or two go but I doubt many if any have sold the amount we have.

One of the main thing that annoys me with his and the clubs 'tone' is that it tries to imply we have to do that somehow to survive. If we are getting £100m a season just from domestic tv that seems crazy that we are in that position.

£100m was so last season. A 7th placed finish this year will be worth £130-140m - that's from just premier league prize money (£85-90m equal share, 7th placed get £28m merit money + facility fees (TV games) is another £17-20m) chuck on gate receipts, commercial and other income and we are close to £200m a season before we start selling players

Even a 10-11th place finish this year would provide £150-170m

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

 

Is...

 

- Austin really inferior to Pelle

- Boufal really inferior to Mane

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama

 

???

 

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

Yes, yes and yes. You have clearly never watched a real football game in your life. Stick to the computer.

We are 3 players different to last season's team.

 

Is...

 

- Austin really inferior to Pelle

- Boufal really inferior to Mane

- Romeu really inferior to Wanyama

 

???

 

Boufal hasn't played enough for any Saints fan to justify him not being as useful as Mane. Romeu is having a superb season as first choice and Austin was the pre-emptive replacement for Pelle and is our top scorer.

Yes to all of your questions.

Interesting that Hojberg is viewing us as a stepping stone. A stepping stone down I assume, given his performances so far?

but we are told that we cant buy until we have sold, Fonte being the case in point at present

That could be the case now thanks to FFP rules , nothing to do with transfer fees. Fonte is probably one of our biggest earners. It may be under the current rules we need to offload him and his wages before we can pay a similar or bigger amount to an incoming replacement. That may not have applied this time last year when Austin joined.

Interesting that Hojberg is viewing us as a stepping stone. A stepping stone down I assume, given his performances so far?

obviously when you have Puel and even more so, Black when you are used to Guardiola and co

t’s difficult next step for the club to take, especially with Champions League football being so hard to attain.

We had a great chance by being in EL.

It was not outside the realms of possibility that we could have won that tournament, given the attitude towards it by other clubs, yet poor recruitment and reserve squad selection cost us a place in that. We're further away from being in the top 4/6 than we have been since the first season back in the PL IMO.

He makes it sound like the only reason we get these players is because they want to move on, yet under Cortese we got players (good players) because of the ambition & project we sold players / managers. I appreciate that this was not Corteses' money and that perhaps (at the time) our spending was not sustainable, but the club really need to stop giving the fans the same bulls!t time and time again.

If the board really had the ambition to break into the top 4 and cement our place in top 6 these last 2 years where the time. Pay the money keep Mane, keep Wanyama, keep Koeman and bring in a few others to really give us a chance. Instead we've been left with (imo) a mediocre manager and generally a team of mediocre players.

yes ,yes and yes without doubt

Romeu is not inferior to Wanyama. he's as good if not better than Wanyama. That's my opinion

Romeu is not inferior to Wanyama. he's as good if not better than Wanyama. That's my opinion

Did you see the Spurs home game?

Do you have a viable alternative strategy you would like to outline?

 

Does it involve...

 

- letting Wanyama's contract run out in summer 2017 and him leaving for £0?

- or signing players that none of the rich clubs would want to buy in the future?

 

Football has a pecking order, Saints will never be at the top of it. So if we are to have very good players you have to accept they will be sold. We simply can't compete with Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal & Man Utd on wages.

 

So stop with these daft threads you start and posts and engage your brain.

I don't post often but this thread annoys me. Why do we sell when our peers do not? Why are some of our fans so unambitious as to support this policy? This season we sold players without replacing like for like and made a profit DESPITE the new TV deal and the riches which go with it. Where is all the money? These questions need answering

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southamptons-krueger-says-need-make-transfer-policy-clear-fans/

 

basically saying that if w bid like £33m comes in for a player like Mane and he wants to go, we have to do it.

The second "if" is redundant. In this club, with this policy, every player wants to go.

Did you see the Spurs home game?

Did you see the Liverpool home game?

Did you see Wanyama at Norwich last year? Sent off for two unnecessary tackles and let Norwich into the game..............

3 reds cards last season leading to a 5 game ban, that imo doesn't make him a better player compared to Romeu

I don't post often but this thread annoys me. Why do we sell when our peers do not? Why are some of our fans so unambitious as to support this policy? This season we sold players without replacing like for like and made a profit DESPITE the new TV deal and the riches which go with it. Where is all the money? These questions need answering

who of our peers are holding onto their players or more interestingly what players are big clubs wanting to sign from our peers?

Not many players I can think off.

I don't think other mid table clubs have players the top 6 want to sign .

I don't post often but this thread annoys me. Why do we sell when our peers do not? Why are some of our fans so unambitious as to support this policy? This season we sold players without replacing like for like and made a profit DESPITE the new TV deal and the riches which go with it. Where is all the money? These questions need answering

It's a fair point that gets brought to the forefront every transfer window. We're currently 20mil in the green on transfers alone, meaning not a penny of the TV money, ticket sales, etc has been invested in the squad. Everything is adding up to a club sale really. I think all will be revealed in the summer once VVD is gone for a final big pay day.

Did you see the Liverpool home game?

 

Did you see Wanyama at Norwich last year? Sent off for two unnecessary tackles and let Norwich into the game..............

 

3 reds cards last season leading to a 5 game ban, that imo doesn't make him a better player compared to Romeu

So using your logic Romeu is better than Fernandinho?

Bayern Munich steal the best players from other teams in their league and rarely sell until they are beyond their best (Schweinsteiger a great example). Not sure how we are anything like that?!

Personally felt then and now that we sold Mane too cheaply. He is probably the best attacker of his type (run in behind player but not central striker) in the PL and given the wild fees quoted recently for far inferior players then he was worth more.

I don't post often but this thread annoys me. Why do we sell when our peers do not? Why are some of our fans so unambitious as to support this policy? This season we sold players without replacing like for like and made a profit DESPITE the new TV deal and the riches which go with it. Where is all the money? These questions need answering

You will be directed to the accounts and told that we have made no money. Well I cant be bothered to read through the accounts and truthfully its not my profession and so would miss the important bits if they were hidden away.

If we need to survive by sellig 30m players then our business plan is rubbish and clubs of a similar size in our league must be bankrupt.

 

I don't think other mid table clubs have players the top 6 want to sign .

Schmeichel, Heaton, Antonio, Keane, Gray, Vardy, Mahrez, Lukaku, Barkley, Payet.... scary that Burnley potentially have more players capable of playing in top 6 than us now.

Also there is a hierarchy within the top 6 - Man United bigger than Spurs for example. So why don't Man U just go and sign Deli, Kane, Lloris, Walker, Rose, Alderweireld and Dier?

I don't post often but this thread annoys me. Why do we sell when our peers do not? Why are some of our fans so unambitious as to support this policy? This season we sold players without replacing like for like and made a profit DESPITE the new TV deal and the riches which go with it. Where is all the money? These questions need answering

I'll assume you're a moron and therefore incapable of reading the audited club accounts or are you another of those who believes, again due to being a moron, that the owner, without a shred of evidence, is taking money out of the club?

dont forget, we are a special club though, different to the others and a bit like Bayern Munich

 

 

cheers Ralphy

So Bayern Munich sell their best players season after season and lose good managers?

No problem...We march on....give me strength....

MLG showing why he's pound for pound the top wum on here.

Glasgow watch and learn.

#masterclass

Old Ralph is completely and utterly full to the brim with pointless meaningless bull****!

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southamptons-krueger-says-need-make-transfer-policy-clear-fans/

What makes Southampton different? "At this club when a player wants to go and we get a fair offer for him, we let him go". The other clubs are going to blown out of the water by this

Schmeichel, Heaton, Antonio, Keane, Gray, Vardy, Mahrez, Lukaku, Barkley, Payet.... scary that Burnley potentially have more players capable of playing in top 6 than us now.

 

Also there is a hierarchy within the top 6 - Man United bigger than Spurs for example. So why don't Man U just go and sign Deli, Kane, Lloris, Walker, Rose, Alderweireld and Dier?