Shance Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 No one think it was a well run window and the cb thing has been a monumental c*ck up which could seriously impact our season. Having said that, there is nothing we can do about it at all other than to sign this bloke and hope it works out. I am annoyed that the club allowed this to happen but won't be moaning at the club for going with the one option now available to them. This makes the most sense given the options available. You've basically just agreed with my first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 You've basically just agreed with my first post. And you with mine. Continuing to grumble now isn't going to achieve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 The player is in a very strong position to demand big wages. Wonder how that will go... Les, you need to pull this one off, big time Oh, come on. Les cant even pull his own pud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 And you with mine. Continuing to grumble now isn't going to achieve anything. I'm not grumbling. I'm stating a fact you helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 I'm not grumbling. I'm stating a fact you helmet. Careful Shance, he will try to get you banned... and the fact you described him to a tee is why i have him on ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Good time to bring him in as can have 3/4 weeks to get fit as only one league game still to come in Feb. Give him a good fitness programme and some U23 games and bring him in from March. No brainer signing even on decent money as no transfer or loan fee. Option for next year too incase he is worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signs, gets fit, gets MOTM keeping Ibrahimovic quiet in the cup final. Tis the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 He was a very good player but he has been crippled by injuries, is semi-retired and would fail a medical at most clubs ( but not Southampton). However, in the event we can get him fit enough to play a few games before he needs treatment again, and he still has full mobility, he should improve our defence. The fact that he crashed his Ferrari into a bus stop whilst drunk at the wheel suggests he hasn't been taking very good care of himself though. It will be surprising if he is anywhere near fit enough as the last time he was able to play was more than a year ago. This is what happened to his career before he stopped playing: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2015 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 He was a very good player but he has been crippled by injuries, is semi-retired and would fail a medical at most clubs ( but not Southampton). However, in the event we can get him fit enough to play a few games before he needs treatment again, and he still has full mobility, he should improve our defence. The fact that he crashed his Ferrari into a bus stop whilst drunk at the wheel suggests he hasn't been taking very good care of himself though. It will be surprising if he is anywhere near fit enough as the last time he was able to play was more than a year ago. This is what happened to his career before he stopped playing: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2015 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2014 Apart from he has just passed a rigorous medical at Milan. Are you just going to whinge whatever the club do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 He was a very good player but he has been crippled by injuries, is semi-retired and would fail a medical at most clubs ( but not Southampton). However, in the event we can get him fit enough to play a few games before he needs treatment again, and he still has full mobility, he should improve our defence. The fact that he crashed his Ferrari into a bus stop whilst drunk at the wheel suggests he hasn't been taking very good care of himself though. It will be surprising if he is anywhere near fit enough as the last time he was able to play was more than a year ago. This is what happened to his career before he stopped playing: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2015 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/martin-caceres/leistungsdaten/spieler/54935/plus/0?saison=2014 Wikipedia tells me the drink driving incident was late 2015, he's played since then. It could be the only time he's ever ingested alcohol in his life for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Apart from he has just passed a rigorous medical at Milan. Are you just going to whinge whatever the club do? You answered the question for him Why are players written off so soon on here...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Apparently, he did also pass the medical at Milan who were once famed for their sports science department (credited for allowing Maldini to play until 40+): Talking to Mediaset Premium ahead of AC Milan’s home clash against Sampdoria, Galliani has confirmed that Caceres won’t be joining AC Milan. “I can confirm that he will not be joining us. Our offer was not in line with his requests and could not manage to reach an economic agreement. He had successful medical but that was not enough. I can only wish him good luck for the future.” http://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/breaking-free-agent-defender-snubs-ac-milan-transfer-considers-m-39844 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 I'm not grumbling. I'm stating a fact you helmet. Why is there no use grumbling? What an utter tool you are! You've literally just contradicted yourself. Asking why there is no use in grumbling and then saying you aren't doing it! Only on saintsweb can someone essentially agree with you and end up insulting you because they can't actually grasp what was posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Careful Shance, he will try to get you banned... and the fact you described him to a tee is why i have him on ignore No one tried to get you banned, you did a great job of getting a temporary suspension yourself. Here's hoping that another one isn't too long in coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 You answered the question for him Why are players written off so soon on here...? It's called an agenda and this place is rife with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 I hope we get this over the line. Will cheer me up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Sky jumping on the story now claiming their "Sources". Also mentions Palace and Sunderland but haven't their 25 man squads been declared? http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/10758616/martin-caceres-flying-to-england-for-talks-with-premier-league-clubs-sky-sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Sky jumping on the story now claiming their "Sources". Also mentions Palace and Sunderland but haven't their 25 man squads been declared? http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/10758616/martin-caceres-flying-to-england-for-talks-with-premier-league-clubs-sky-sources Yes they have. Their sources ought to do a bit of research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4196050/Southampton-close-free-agent-Martin-Caceres.html The Daily Mail have joined in too, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Yes they have. Their sources ought to do a bit of research. can they de-register players?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signs, gets fit, gets MOTM keeping Ibrahimovic quiet in the cup final. Tis the dream. The 2017 Bobby Stokes as he pop's up with the winner as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 No one tried to get you banned, you did a great job of getting a temporary suspension yourself. Here's hoping that another one isn't too long in coming. You posted several times suggesting that Always should be banned permantly. And you call me a liar!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 We really, desperately need him. This is exactly the kind of signing Reed and co sneer at as well: panic buying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 You posted several times suggesting that Always should be banned permantly. And you call me a liar!! Put him on ignore mate, i have and he can talk to himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 You posted several times suggesting that Always should be banned permantly. And you call me a liar!! I wasn't "trying to get him banned" soggy I was giving an opinion. Attempting to get someone banned would involve lobbying the mods, not that I would be that lame or that I could be bothered to try. I know you have difficulty with understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 (edited) Put him on ignore mate, i have and he can talk to himself I know mate, you've mentioned it in about 4 posts today, even going to the trouble of starting a new thread that mentions me. Seems slightly pointless to stick me on ignore if you're just going to keep talking about me. Edited 6 February, 2017 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 can they de-register players?? My understanding from what I read yesterday is a team can only change one of the 25 in exceptional circumstances. The example provided of an exceptional circumstance was a goalkeeping crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 ..... any sightings of our saviour ? ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 The player is in a very strong position to demand big wages. Wonder how that will go... Les, you need to pull this one off, big time Is he though? The Express report that Milan offered him £4k basic and £21k per appearance, so roughly £25kpw. Which he turned down, presumably on the chance of earning more over here. If we offer him £40k final offer and he turns it down, what does he do? Sit on his a*se for the rest of the season and have even more time out of the game when he tries to negotiate a deal in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Is he though? The Express report that Milan offered him £4k basic and £21k per appearance, so roughly £25kpw. Which he turned down, presumably on the chance of earning more over here. If we offer him £40k final offer and he turns it down, what does he do? Sit on his a*se for the rest of the season and have even more time out of the game when he tries to negotiate a deal in the summer? Goes to Sunderland? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Wikipedia tells me the drink driving incident was late 2015, he's played since then. It could be the only time he's ever ingested alcohol in his life for all we know. Unlikely. And on the other hand, collecting two drink driving convictions is virtually pathognomonic of alcoholism. So is he a teetotaller who got unlucky or a hopeless old soak? Probably neither, but it is hardly a glowing reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Yes they have. Their sources ought to do a bit of research. I thought their 'sources',at least a far as Saints are concerned, involved reading this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Unlikely. And on the other hand, collecting two drink driving convictions is virtually pathognomonic of alcoholism. So is he a teetotaller who got unlucky or a hopeless old soak? Probably neither, but it is hardly a glowing reference. Yet we all carried on cheering Beattie, Fernandes and Guly (there may be more, but those 3 spring to mind more readily). But hey, beat him down before he has even kicked a ball for us. Makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Yet we all carried on cheering Beattie, Fernandes and Guly (there may be more, but those 3 spring to mind more readily). But hey, beat him down before he has even kicked a ball for us. Makes sense All 3 were rightly censured on here. I repeat, it's hardly a glowing reference, a drink-driving conviction after crashing into a bus stop, is it? People, families and children congregate and wait around at bus stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signed, was shown round the training ground this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Unlikely. And on the other hand, collecting two drink driving convictions is virtually pathognomonic of alcoholism. So is he a teetotaller who got unlucky or a hopeless old soak? Probably neither, but it is hardly a glowing reference. I can't seen any reference to another drink driving conviction, but yes I wasn't genuinely suggesting it to be the only time he'd ever had a drink before. As someone below me points out, plenty of them have done it, if we ruled out new signings on the basis of their moral compass I think we'd find it very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signed, was shown round the training ground this afternoon Great news if true. We can't have a repeat of Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signed, was shown round the training ground this afternoon Looking at your recent posts I very much doubt you know anything about this so won't get excited just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signed, was shown round the training ground this afternoon Will we expect an announcement this evening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signed, was shown round the training ground this afternoon Where have you been all this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 I can't seen any reference to another drink driving conviction, but yes I wasn't genuinely suggesting it to be the only time he'd ever had a drink before. As someone below me points out, plenty of them have done it, if we ruled out new signings on the basis of their moral compass I think we'd find it very difficult. I agree, but it is all part of the due diligence when weighing up a signing - character and application and conscientiousness play a part as well as footballing talent. We are usually quite good at it, the odd slip aside (Osvaldo!). But we may need to make allowances and take risks on this guy that we wouldn't ordinarily do, given the hole we are in at the back. Indeed, he has all the hallmarks of a typical January panic signing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window. Worth it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 He has to play well to be in the shop window, that'll do me for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Worth it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He has to play well to be in the shop window, that'll do me for the rest of the season. Yeah, I agree. Would be an interesting opportunity for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 Signs, gets fit, gets MOTM keeping Ibrahimovic quiet in the cup final. Tis the dream. Signs, gets crocked first game because he's not fit. takes wages to end of season, leaves, joins "x" becomes one of the players of the 2017/18 PL season - tis the nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgulydoprado Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window. You do realise Milan have no where near our financial clout? They aren't what they once were at all, as mentioned above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 You do realise Milan have no where near our financial clout? They aren't what they once were at all, as mentioned above They may not, but we have a self enforced budget that we won't be going over. His last club was Juve and he's getting towards the end of his career so more than possible he's demanding upwards of £100k a week on a long deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 If Milan couldn't reach his wage demands, it's possible he might only sign for us within our budget if offered a 6 month deal to put him in the shop window. Fine with me, we can all re-evaluate in the summer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo_ARG Posted 6 February, 2017 Share Posted 6 February, 2017 @gonzaloronchi1 Martín Cáceres en minutos comenzará la revisión médica con @SouthamptonFC. Ayer se llegó a un principio de acurdo en lo económico. Uruguayan journalist tweeted half an our ago: "Martin Caceres will have his medical with @SouthamptonFC in a couple of minutes. He reached an economic agreement with the club yesterday". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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