Sunderland - Meltdown Warmup Thread

All that matters today is that we don't get any injuries or a sending off

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Home banker.

Where once we had Fonte and Van Dijk we have Yoshida and Stephens.

Where once we had Wanyama and Schneiderlin we have Ward Prowse and Romeu

Where once we had Pelle and Mane we have Rodriguez and Redmond.

 

We've gone all in with a pair of 8s and are hoping 3 players have got less than that.

What you forget conveniently is that all of these players were relative unknown's when they came to us and we got hold of them because nobody else wanted them! We made them into desirable commodities. Who's to say we won't do so again.

We are going to win and win big today even 4-0 will not be a surprise.

All that matters today is that we don't get any injuries or a sending off

 

 

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Result matters more!

Lose and we are right in the **** IMO.

Result matters more!

 

Lose and we are right in the **** IMO.

At least our record away to poor teams is good this season.............

How I think the front 3 should set up:

-TADIC-LONG-GABBIADINI

How I think Puel will set up:

-RODRIGUEZ-GABBIADINI-REDMOND

#SaintsFC team to face #SAFC: Forster, Cédric, Stephens, Yoshida, Bertrand, Romeu, Davis ©, Ward-Prowse, Tadić, Redmond, Gabbiadini.

Tadic needs to show today he is worthy of his Cup final place, he has been poor of late but so capable of providing Gabbiadini with the killer passes

Ward-Prowse starts again - if I was Hojbjerg I'd be looking elsewhere.

We need 3 points today, more important than the game at Wembley By a mile !

Ward-Prowse starts again - if I was Hojbjerg I'd be looking elsewhere.

I'd encourage him to

#SaintsFC team to face #SAFC: Forster, Cédric, Stephens, Yoshida, Bertrand, Romeu, Davis ©, Ward-Prowse, Tadić, Redmond, Gabbiadini.

Safe to assume the Bertrand at CB possibility isn't going to happen at all then !

Have to feel sorry for Shane Long as well, hits a bit of goal scoring form and gets benched !

i just don't get this manager I'm afraid.

As most of us predicted, lack of games means lack of rotation, so will the players finally take some responsibility if they play **** today or will it all be about Puel again?

I'd encourage him to

If you are suggesting he is not good enough and Prowsey is better, we have a major point of difference.

Ward-Prowse starts again - if I was Hojbjerg I'd be looking elsewhere.

JWP has played better than Hojbjerg recently

As for Long - apart from scoring the goal at Swansea, he was anonymous for most of that game. He's better when we will be playing on the counter attack - we will probably be dominating possession for large periods of this match.

DOn't understand how Davis has kept his place. He has been s***e....for all the JWP haters, he has been performing way above Davis who is the most overrated underrated player of all time.

I think JWP has finally justified his play the last couple of games, partly due to the competition being so poor but also he's actually done something in a few games

Ward-Prowse starts again - if I was Hojbjerg I'd be looking elsewhere.

Why? PEH has been no better than JWP this season. If anything JWP has earned his place in the side, especially recently. PEH will come good but probably late this season/early next.

At least Hull lost. Good for us.

Would've been much happier with Hojbjerg in there instead of Jwp.

Also perhaps a case for playing tadic through the middle behind Gabbiadini, with pace of Sims and Redmond on the the outside

I'd encourage him to

I'm not a fan of JWP, but after a bit of initial promise Hojberg has been no better than him. He shouldn't be looking elsewhere, he shold try to perform when he gets the chance.

About time Tadic had a decent game. Our front 3 is a bit of a lottery every week under Puel, but I have a feeling it might work today.

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We need 3 points today, more important than the game at Wembley By a mile !

Pony

It's time we won something. Lose today & we still won't go down. Lose at Wembley it maybe another 10 years before we get the chance again

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Why? PEH has been no better than JWP this season. If anything JWP has earned his place in the side, especially recently. PEH will come good but probably late this season/early next.

I'll give you two areas where PEH is better, though it's true, his form has dipped. PEH provides a degree of coverage for Romeu that JWP cannot or doesn't. Hojbjerg is capable of driving runs into attacking areas; JWP never does - he lays off a safe pass and then runs into the box. Have a good look; that's what he does. I hope Prowsey has a blinder and scores a brace in a winning side; but apart from the occasional game he hasn't been better than Hojbjerg, and our midfield overall looks to be a real point of weakness.

I'm not a fan of JWP, but after a bit of initial promise Hojberg has been no better than him. He shouldn't be looking elsewhere, he shold try to perform when he gets the chance.

 

About time Tadic had a decent game. Our front 3 is a bit of a lottery every week under Puel, but I have a feeling it might work today.

 

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Yeah sorry that probably came across wrong looking back at it - I meant i'd encourage Hojbjerg to look elsewhere because i don't think he's very good!

As above, Prowse above Hojbjerg is perfectly understandable. He's starting to actually make himself available in advanced positions (as opposed to his previous half-hearted arms out stance when he's not even unmarked), and taking first time shots - I get the impression he's less 'afraid' of the ball/risk taking. Not to mention the increased physicality which has been present all season.

As for the subs bench, I like the dropping of a second CM in favour of an AM/FWD.

I'll give you two areas where PEH is better, though it's true, his form has dipped. PEH provides a degree of coverage for Romeu that JWP cannot or doesn't. Hojbjerg is capable of driving runs into attacking areas; JWP never does - he lays off a safe pass and then runs into the box. Have a good look; that's what he does. I hope Prowsey has a blinder and scores a brace in a winning side; but apart from the occasional game he hasn't been better than Hojbjerg, and our midfield overall looks to be a real point of weakness.

How many games has prowse played for us?

Simply does not offer enough to justify a place in the engine room of the side.

I put him in the same category as Jermaine Wright, who used to play a lot without knowing exactly why.

I'll give you two areas where PEH is better, though it's true, his form has dipped. PEH provides a degree of coverage for Romeu that JWP cannot or doesn't. Hojbjerg is capable of driving runs into attacking areas; JWP never does - he lays off a safe pass and then runs into the box. Have a good look; that's what he does. I hope Prowsey has a blinder and scores a brace in a winning side; but apart from the occasional game he hasn't been better than Hojbjerg, and our midfield overall looks to be a real point of weakness.

Agree with most of this, but he's also been giving the ball away a lot recently, getting dispossessed and his shooting has been terrible. Seems like a confidence issue to me as he was much better when he first came here. He could do with a run of games, hopefully he'll get them later in the season.

lose this and with a two week break until the next game it's a perfect oppty to get in a new manager......which i think we should do anyway

How many games has prowse played for us?

 

Simply does not offer enough to justify a place in the engine room of the side.

 

I put him in the same category as Jermaine Wright, who used to play a lot without knowing exactly why.

That is a ludicrous comparison

Classie should be in ahead of both of them

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Classie should be in ahead of both of them

 

 

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I nearly posted that - I think Romeo/Clasie/Davis is our best three in Puel's system.

AB just said Cacares is pronounced "Ca-tha-res". I think this is incorrect. They don't do the c as th in Latin America.

I would go for "Cassarez".

DOn't understand how Davis has kept his place. He has been s***e....for all the JWP haters, he has been performing way above Davis who is the most overrated underrated player of all time.

As Lord Ducky might say - complete pony.

Any good streams today?

Any good streams today?

So far, so good:

http://www.feed4u.tv/watch/1907419/2/Sunderland-vs-Southampton-FC.html

Anyone having any issues with Sportsnation on Kodi? Not even opening for me.

Any good streams today?

http://www.feed4u.net/watch/1907309/1/Sunderland-vs-Southampton-FC.html

Ah, Dutch beat me to it...

And now it's disappeared. Ballbags. What other Kodi channels are there?

It's okay. I'm back in the game. True story.

What link is best?

AB just said Cacares is pronounced "Ca-tha-res". I think this is incorrect. They don't do the c as th in Latin America.

Correct. It should be KA-ser-ez, with the emphasis on the first syllable. The other difference is that in Argentina/Uruguay (in addition to the s/th difference in all Latin America) they pronounce a double L as a 'zh'/'jh' instead of a Y as they do in Spain, Peru, Mexico etc. Which is why everyone calls the Leicester striker Leo Uzjhoa. But obviously that's not relevant for Caceres...