The Next Manager Thread

He absolutely isn't. Maybe he could tell us how we keep hold of Wanyama and Clyne especially, when they are in the last year of their contracts and have made it clear that they are not going to sign a new one. It seems he is not criticising Everton for not getting Barkley to sign a new contract. Same really for Pelle. Morgan and Mane threw strops. Lallana had his head up someones harris. Funny he doesn't mention Lovren. But anyway Sour, if Samuels isn't going to, can you tell us all how we are supposed to keep the likes of Wanyama and Clyne here? I really would be interested to know anyone's thoughts on this.

 

And let's face it. Samuels is a bitter little man. Just because our ex chairman took him to the cleaners, he holds a rather childish grudge.

We dont need a top manager we need a miracle worker as scoring goals with Long Jrod and our midfield is nye impossible

I was told last night that apparently we created more chances than any other team last season, well it oculdnt be due to negative football

We may be getting Palace's second choice...

 

 

Southampton and Crystal Palace are close to appointing new managers - with Mauricio Pellegrino and Frank de Boer on both clubs' final shortlists.

 

Sky Sports News HQ understands that Palace's search may be the more advanced, with Pellegrino and De Boer the hot favourites to replace Sam Allardyce at Selhurst Park.

 

Pellegrino has caught the eye of clubs across Europe after he led Alaves to a ninth-place finish in La Liga and an appearance in the Copa del Rey final.

Or they might be getting our second choice. I don't think we'll appoint someone before the weekend. I reckon it'll be not this Thursday, the Thursday after.

We may be getting Palace's second choice...

 

 

Southampton and Crystal Palace are close to appointing new managers - with Mauricio Pellegrino and Frank de Boer on both clubs' final shortlists.

 

Sky Sports News HQ understands that Palace's search may be the more advanced, with Pellegrino and De Boer the hot favourites to replace Sam Allardyce at Selhurst Park.

 

Pellegrino has caught the eye of clubs across Europe after he led Alaves to a ninth-place finish in La Liga and an appearance in the Copa del Rey final.

I reckon it would be De Boer to Palace and Pellegrino to us. De Boer would have Palace well organized with decent football played. We would go for Pellegrino as the club wants fancy football.

Or can we expect a surprise?

Thinking back to when we had Pochetinno, the players were always laughing and really seemed to enjoy the training. I can't remember seeing a similar video last season. Players just didn't seem happy under Puel (although I rate him as a coach, think he definitely knows his stuff).

Like it ended in tears for Zidane at Madrid, winning the champ league! A manager has to start somewhere, I would take a risk with Viera. Won everything in the game, instant respect of players, big name and will help us attract players. Who cares if in two years he goes to Arsenal, it would have meant he had done a good job for us.

So has Giggs, but I wouldn't go near him with a barge-pole.

I reckon it would be De Boer to Palace and Pellegrino to us. De Boer would have Palace well organized with decent football played. We would go for Pellegrino as the club wants fancy football.

 

Or can we expect a surprise?

 

Thinking back to when we had Pochetinno, the players were always laughing and really seemed to enjoy the training. I can't remember seeing a similar video last season. Players just didn't seem happy under Puel (although I rate him as a coach, think he definitely knows his stuff).

I think De Boar's reputation of blooding academy players might swing it his way.

Sky say the shortlist is down to four candidates; who are they I wonder? De Boer, Pellegrino, Vieira, LVG?

No but their fans are not whining because they didnt seem any goals forgetting gettig to the cup final and what that brought to the season.

We dont need a top manager we need a miracle worker as scoring goals with Long Jrod and our midfield is nye impossible

I was told last night that apparently we created more chances than any other team last season, well it oculdnt be due to negative football

Wrong what was nye impossible was scoring a goal and staying in the team, having your main striker and having someone close enough to him to get and give the ball to. Our formation of 4 2 3 30yards was one of the reasons being ignored.

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Puel was asked to stay but change this tactic but refused ? Thats nothing to do with fans wanting him out just his stubborn refusal to change - just like his substitutions at home.

But then some of the Hey Look I Wanted Him To Stay crowd lose their stick to beat other fans with.

Nigh = near.

Sky say the shortlist is down to four candidates; who are they I wonder? De Boer, Pellegrino, Vieira, LVG?

LvG ? Get out of here, he's a non-starter for sure.

Far too many rumours, if I tell you that Bielsa failed to turn up to start work at Lille this morning, does that make him a candidate for the Saints job? Of course it doesn't.

Increased security at staplewood, and apparently bielsa has gone awol at Lille, I reckon he might be the unnamed link...:suspicious:

Increased security at staplewood, and apparently bielsa has gone awol at Lille, I reckon he might be the unnamed link...:suspicious:

I expect he just decided that the 19th June is far too early to start pre-season training in any serious manner and that it's too hot anyway. The basic training staff can handle the hour or so's efforts for this morning anyway. Plus his Mum died last week I think.

If you had asked me this time last week if I'd like Vieira as our new manager I would have laughed in your face, however the more I read about him, the more I'm actually starting to think we should take the gamble and go for it. That said, I honestly cannot say I've seen much MLS football (I have a contact who is currently working out in NYC, so I may drop him a line and get his thoughts), so my judgement is purely based on what I've read.

He knows the league

He's a big name and will get respect from the players almost instantly

Seems to play pretty exciting football

Even with his limited experience, he's managed some of the worlds best players (Lampard, Pirlo and Villa)

He will have a good network (in France and in England)

He seems like a decent bloke who will bring that 'family feel' we had under Poch. I believe the players would love him, as they did Poch.

Experience of youth development

It would be a gamble, a big one at that, but every coach has to start somewhere (Pep at Barca, Poch at Espanyol and Zidane at Real were all appointed with little to no management experience and look how they've done).

FWIW, I do not believe that we weren't in for Tuchel.

Not sure if people have seen this:

http://www.football.london/crystal-palace-fc/news/southampton-just-helped-decide-who-13199787

I did enjoy voting for Puel as their next manager though.

Wrong what was nye impossible was scoring a goal and staying in the team, having your main striker and having someone close enough to him to get and give the ball to. Our formation of 4 2 3 30yards was one of the reasons being ignored.

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Puel was asked to stay but change this tactic but refused ? Thats nothing to do with fans wanting him out just his stubborn refusal to change - just like his substitutions at home.

But then some of the Hey Look I Wanted Him To Stay crowd lose their stick to beat other fans with.

If you had asked me this time last week if I'd like Vieira as our new manager I would have laughed in your face, however the more I read about him, the more I'm actually starting to think we should take the gamble and go for it. That said, I honestly cannot say I've seen much MLS football (I have a contact who is currently working out in NYC, so I may drop him a line and get his thoughts), so my judgement is purely based on what I've read.

 

He knows the league

He's a big name and will get respect from the players almost instantly

Seems to play pretty exciting football

Even with his limited experience, he's managed some of the worlds best players (Lampard, Pirlo and Villa)

He will have a good network (in France and in England)

He seems like a decent bloke who will bring that 'family feel' we had under Poch. I believe the players would love him, as they did Poch.

Experience of youth development

 

It would be a gamble, a big one at that, but every coach has to start somewhere (Pep at Barca, Poch at Espanyol and Zidane at Real were all appointed with little to no management experience and look how they've done).

 

FWIW, I do not believe that we weren't in for Tuchel.

Any one else think Neil Warnock would be worth a punt? Had Premier League experience but also knows the lower leagues, so could help us find the new Rickie Lambert.

Stop taking the ****, for goodness sake!

Reed is under pressure and will take his time to get this one right i hope.

He needs to redeem himself after Puel or this will be his last manager pick imho

Vieira, woooooah

Vieira, woooooah

He's French-Senegalese

He f()cking hates Pompey

 

 

 

Ughhhhhh.

It's the hot weather folks, gets 'em all in the end.

is Vieira a big name to footballers who are 20 odd??? I suspect most owuld have to Wikipedia his name to find out

Really....?

We are getting to the point where any appointee will be met with widespread disappointment and gnashing of teeth. That should ensure that the new lad will get off to a rip roaring start.

Saints the unmanageable or Saints fans the unsatisfiable?

Still, good news to see Bertrand and van Dyke fronting up in the new kit.

http://readsouthampton.com/2017/06/18/southampton-reportedly-approach-roberto-martinez/

Apologies if already posted.

Why should he change his principles? Who was scoring often and dropped , Gabbiadini wasnt, he just got injured or not fit enough to stay on for 90 minutes. I think Clasie scored a goal and was dropped the next game but perhaps he wasnt playing to the way he was supposed to. Tadic may have been but the amount of chances he spurned was ridiculous. The fact is Puel was left with the poorest line up front, it was like letting Mr Bean loose in a brothel

Why change his principles? What about the inability to score - just maybe by changing the formation to have 2 strikers was worth a shot?

Jayrod scored 1 and made one at Boro yet dropped - worth a shot alongside Gabi? Nope lets stick rigid and replace like for like....Come on Clasie had a great game at WBA was then dropped for 4 games not 1 minute he scored FFS more than Davis JWP and Tadic were managing!

You may not have been in the stadium for the last 5 games but I was and it was apparent the players didn't get it either and the fans rightly had enough of the weird selections and subs. Sims was deemed as the saviour one game yet hardly gets a kick the next, Austin not brought on in last 15 mins when needed a goal yet starts in place of Gabi next game.

Away from home great but at home where you need to get most of your points he lost the plot....whether the new manager does any better who knows but the board has to back him better than they did Puel. Whether the new manager can get the best out of Jayrod/Long.....Koeman did for Long.

is Vieira a big name to footballers who are 20 odd??? I suspect most owuld have to Wikipedia his name to find out

You have to be joking... I am early twenties and I definitely know who Viera is... I think you're underestimating the young here

We are getting to the point where any appointee will be met with widespread disappointment and gnashing of teeth. That should ensure that the new lad will get off to a rip roaring start.

 

Saints the unmanageable or Saints fans the unsatisfiable?

 

Still, good news to see Bertrand and van Dyke fronting up in the new kit.

There are a number of options that would unite fans and excite players.

Leslie "do it my way" Reed is the specialist at the underwhelming

We are getting to the point where any appointee will be met with widespread disappointment and gnashing of teeth. That should ensure that the new lad will get off to a rip roaring start.

 

Saints the unmanageable or Saints fans the unsatisfiable?

 

Still, good news to see Bertrand and van Dyke fronting up in the new kit.

Quite the reverse. Old Les is going to wait until we are past caring before appointing someone totally underwhelming. We'll all just shrug our shoulders and get on with it. Saints fans are no more difficult to satisfy than any other set of football fans. In fact, many of our fans have very low expectations, considering we get the 11th biggest gates in the Premier League. Avoiding relegation or even getting relegated and finishing in the top 8 of the Championship would satisfy them.

is Vieira a big name to footballers who are 20 odd??? I suspect most owuld have to Wikipedia his name to find out

Christ.

is Vieira a big name to footballers who are 20 odd??? I suspect most owuld have to Wikipedia his name to find out

Isn't he good on fantasy football then ?

Christ.

Quite. Not sure what goes through peoples head before they post.

You have to be joking... I am early twenties and I definitely know who Viera is... I think you're underestimating the young here

Not that well, evidently

Not that well, evidently

Back to school I go, oops

We are getting to the point where any appointee will be met with widespread disappointment and gnashing of teeth. That should ensure that the new lad will get off to a rip roaring start.

 

Saints the unmanageable or Saints fans the unsatisfiable?

Becoming like Montreal Canadiens fans. Absolutely hated in North America with their entitled, hysterical, bipolar and impatient behaviour.

We are getting to the point where any appointee will be met with widespread disappointment and gnashing of teeth. That should ensure that the new lad will get off to a rip roaring start.

 

Saints the unmanageable or Saints fans the unsatisfiable?

 

Still, good news to see Bertrand and van Dyke fronting up in the new kit.

Becoming like Montreal Canadiens fans. Absolutely hated in North America with their entitled, hysterical, bipolar and impatient behaviour.

Lol.. Get real...no one really gives a **** about Southampton outside of our fans..as if anyone would be interested enough to hate us because a few people on an Internet forum have a moan?

Just a reminder to those who think 8th was good enough, the points total didnt deserve that position. The gap to 7th said it all.

Far more pleased that we are anticipating an appointment rather than looking forward to more of the same with Claude.

Becoming like Montreal Canadiens fans. Absolutely hated in North America with their entitled, hysterical, bipolar and impatient behaviour.

Really? Not gonna bother, then, asking about your view of Maple Leafs fans.

Becoming like Montreal Canadiens fans. Absolutely hated in North America with their entitled, hysterical, bipolar and impatient behaviour.

Sounds like you have just described their French heritage rather than their fans

Just a reminder to those who think 8th was good enough, the points total didnt deserve that position. The gap to 7th said it all.

Far more pleased that we are anticipating an appointment rather than looking forward to more of the same with Claude.

It's funny the ones who wanted to keep Puel, are now , in some cases, the ones creating a fuss whilst we look for a new manager.

As usual they "assume" people's reactions to a new manager when we don't even know who it is! Trotting out the same tired arguments despite the fact, it was the club and Puel who decided his time was up..not some fans on an Internet forum!

Like you...I am really excited about a new appointment and about the new season. something I wouldn't have been if the status quo remained.

Sounds like you have just described their French heritage rather than their fans

No need for that.

Really? Not gonna bother, then, asking about your view of Maple Leafs fans.

 

Leaf fans can be colossal dicks but they are extremely loyal. Habs go from wanting a golden statue of the likes of Cary Price to having him traded and driven out of the city on a daily basis.

We are getting to the point where any appointee will be met with widespread disappointment and gnashing of teeth

Possibly, but only for an impatient, immature minority

Anyway, back to football.

Hopefully Les et al., get it right. It's an unenviable job because prior record doesn't always translate to another club.

The new guy will likely get pilloried on here anyway, regardless of who he is.

end of the week will hopefully be when we'll all see the end of this b#lls*it. i do wonder if we'll ever have a regular summer where we worry about signing players to improve us instead of losing our s##t about our star players leaving or our manager leaving or leslie shooting the bed with his decisions.

anyhoo, palace fans seem to think they'll get whoever we reject as he will choose us over them.

Just a reminder to those who think 8th was good enough, the points total didnt deserve that position. The gap to 7th said it all.

Far more pleased that we are anticipating an appointment rather than looking forward to more of the same with Claude.

Absolutely agree.

8th was a good league position but a huge gap to 7th, and we were only 6 points off Dalek's baseline of 17th, so nothing to crow about at all. That and an unnerving inability to score goals and a lame exit from Europe.

It was time to cut our losses with Claude and I look forward to a new appointment and a new approach that can re-engage with the fans.

Lol.. Get real...no one really gives a **** about Southampton outside of our fans..as if anyone would be interested enough to hate us because a few people on an Internet forum have a moan?

Our North American friends who never go to games seem to believe that we get 'hysterical'. You can certainly tell they've never been to St Mary's

Papers suggesting pellegrino would prefer a London move over us, are palace a bigger club than us? Or basically London clubs more appealing?

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Papers suggesting pellegrino would prefer a London move over us, are palace a bigger club than us? Or basically London clubs more appealing?

 

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I would say London is a big draw...I wonder if he has been to selhurst Park?

Ie. Pellegrinos out of the running for Saints and is spinning for A palace job now.

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Papers suggesting pellegrino would prefer a London move over us, are palace a bigger club than us? Or basically London clubs more appealing?

 

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The rejection list grows.....

Wagner

Semedo

Tuchel

Schmit

Pellegrino

We'll end up with Tony Adams at this rate.

I would say London is a big draw...I wonder if he has been to selhurst Park?

yeah exactly, total **** hole of a ground. Maybe he needs to get his atlas out and see just how close Southampton is to London !

Has Bob Bradley signed yet?

The rejection list grows.....

 

Wagner

Semedo

Tuchel

Schmit

Pellegrino

 

We'll end up with Tony Adams at this rate.

Don't believe the spin. No manager is going to come out and say "They didn't want me" are they?