Lets B Avenue Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 What are the odds on Erik Black being promoted to head coach, with big Jaidi as his assistant... He was telling his mates at Tranmere a month ago, that he was out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Sven sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 @JWTelegraph: Claude Puel sacked after it was concluded #saintsfc players/fans not sufficiently with him. Thomas Tuchel on shortlist but there are others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Sven sacked Uh-oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy9143 Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 @JWTelegraph: Claude Puel sacked after it was concluded #saintsfc players/fans not sufficiently with him. Thomas Tuchel on shortlist but there are others The question is, are we on Thomas Tuchel's shortlist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 @JWTelegraph: Claude Puel sacked after it was concluded #saintsfc players/fans not sufficiently with him. Thomas Tuchel on shortlist but there are others They will be keen to downplay Tuchel a bit unless it is definitely him, otherwise no other candidates will stand a chance with the fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globetrotter Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Pellegrino would bring a bit of fizz to the first team. Bubbly personality. Very saintly too. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Sam Allardyce and Sammy Lee Or Glenn Hoddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 The Guardian suggesting that Claudio Ranieri could be a contender. Sloppy journalism. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/14/claude-puel-sacked-as-southampton-manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 The Guardian suggesting that Claudio Ranieri could be a contender. Sloppy journalism. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/14/claude-puel-sacked-as-southampton-manager Ranieri just got a job at Nantes! Sloppy indeed. Wilson mentions "other German options". Who's that guy in his 20s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Ranieri just got a job at Nantes! Sloppy indeed. Wilson mentions "other German options". Who's that guy in his 20s? Nagelsmann? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Nagelsmann? Hasn't he just signed a new long term contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I hope that the recruitment team does not spend the next few weeks trying to find a manger who exactly fits their long list of criteria, aligns with the minutiae of the club's footballing and human resources philosophies and ticks every single little box in their recruitment chart. Puel ticked every one of their boxes, looked alright on paper and as it turns out alienated a significant chunk of the players, along with a portion of the fanbase. Quit fannying about and sign the best manager available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 I miss K.Billy and Guan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 They will be keen to downplay Tuchel a bit unless it is definitely him, otherwise no other candidates will stand a chance with the fans... Les and co. might be wary of a Tuchel appointment if they are looking for managerial stability since a Poch/Koeman stepping stone outcome would be likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 14 June, 2017 Share Posted 14 June, 2017 Le Tissier please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Ranieri just got a job at Nantes! Sloppy indeed. Wilson mentions "other German options". Who's that guy in his 20s? Anything other than German and I'll be disappointed apart save Felix Magath. Better not be English - they are spent as managers and we need verve, mystery and stubble. As long as the efficient German isn't too excitable and giggly as that can get annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Les and co. might be wary of a Tuchel appointment if they are looking for managerial stability since a Poch/Koeman stepping stone outcome would be likely. But will perpetuate the 'how we do it every season..?' pundit line that shows Les is great light as the genius mastermind behind the club's succession planning. 2 years is the average these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 But will perpetuate the 'how we do it every season..?' pundit line that shows Les is great light as the genius mastermind behind the club's succession planning. 2 years is the average these days. Yes, quite so. And I'd take another 2 years or so of the benefits a high profile manager like Tuchel would bring, Let's hope Les thinks so too. Perhaps the whole idea of "managerial stability" is a fanciful dream of the past - just like the notion of the "loyal" player is more likely a player without any better offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Yes, quite so. And I'd take another 2 years or so of the benefits a high profile manager like Tuchel would bring, Let's hope Les thinks so too. Perhaps the whole idea of "managerial stability" is a fanciful dream of the past - just like the notion of the "loyal" player is more likely a player without any better offers. falling out with the board and losing the dressing room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 So the fans criteria for a new manager exciting attacking football solid defence and keeper top 6 win a cup final great personality Not a side lines clown big name sexy hippisters choice keeps the senior players happy develops the youth players beat the crap sides beat the top six sides come on Les how hard can that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 As Jeremy Wilson has intimated German coaches, maybe Julian Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 So the fans criteria for a new manager exciting attacking football solid defence and keeper top 6 win a cup final great personality Not a side lines clown big name sexy hippisters choice keeps the senior players happy develops the youth players beat the crap sides beat the top six sides come on Les how hard can that be? I want all of the above and spectacles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 So the fans criteria for a new manager exciting attacking football solid defence and keeper top 6 win a cup final great personality Not a side lines clown big name sexy hippisters choice keeps the senior players happy develops the youth players beat the crap sides beat the top six sides come on Les how hard can that be? Fit wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Excellent hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Excellent hair. That rules TT out then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 That rules TT out then Science can do wonders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 I am genuinely sat next to Ryan Giggs in Frankfurt airport ... il ask him straight out ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 I am genuinely sat next to Ryan Giggs in Frankfurt airport ... il ask him straight out ... Think he's into woman mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Science can do wonders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Think he's into woman mate. He is overcompensating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Perhaps the new takeover company want a high profile manager as one of the conditions to take over the club. This Tuchel bloke is never a Reed appointment but he might not have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 So the fans criteria for a new manager exciting attacking football solid defence and keeper top 6 win a cup final great personality Not a side lines clown big name sexy hippisters choice keeps the senior players happy develops the youth players beat the crap sides beat the top six sides come on Les how hard can that be? Hates the song "My Way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 So the fans criteria for a new manager exciting attacking football solid defence and keeper top 6 win a cup final great personality Not a side lines clown big name sexy hippisters choice keeps the senior players happy develops the youth players beat the crap sides beat the top six sides come on Les how hard can that be? Don`t forget the "super" interviews, very high on the list for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Nagelsmann please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Is Black still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 The more I think about it, the more Klinsmann fits the bill IMO. Doesn't he tick most boxes....? - a German manager other than Tuchel (as hinted in the Wilson article)? tick - available? tick - high profile? tick - could persuade the likes of VvD and Bertrand to stay? tick - more charismatic than Puel? tick - european tournament experience? tick - international experience? tick - attacking style? tick - good at bringing through younger players? not sure, but don't see why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 The more I think about it, the more Klinsmann fits the bill IMO. Doesn't he tick most boxes....? - a German manager other than Tuchel (as hinted in the Wilson article)? tick - available? tick - high profile? tick - could persuade the likes of VvD and Bertrand to stay? tick - more charismatic than Puel? tick - european tournament experience? tick - international experience? tick - attacking style? tick - good at bringing through younger players? not sure, but don't see why not "They also looked at Roger Schmidt but he has now taken a job in China, as well as other German options, although those candidates do not include Jurgen Klinsmann or David Wagner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 "They also looked at Roger Schmidt but he has now taken a job in China, as well as other German options, although those candidates do not include Jurgen Klinsmann or David Wagner." Bugger. Unless its a smokescreen of course... What would be the reasons for Klinsmann not matching our criteria I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 I want all of the above and spectacles I've already got the spectacles so that just leaves 'all of the above' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 So the fans criteria for a new manager exciting attacking football solid defence and keeper top 6 win a cup final great personality Not a side lines clown big name sexy hippisters choice keeps the senior players happy develops the youth players beat the crap sides beat the top six sides come on Les how hard can that be? Basically the opposite of Puel then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Les and co. might be wary of a Tuchel appointment if they are looking for managerial stability since a Poch/Koeman stepping stone outcome would be likely. I have no problem being used as a stepping stone as that means we've done very well as a club in the meantime. The alternative is mediocrity where you don't do well enough for them to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 We need to follow on from Puel, Pochettino, Wotte, Poortvliet etc and find someone that nobody on here as ever heard of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Here's one take on our options http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.aspx?ref=BDIGeneric&aid=C98EA5B0842DBB9405BBF071E1DA7651530FFE51&tid=1A58242530E14763A59FF82FB313930E&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.belfasttelegraph.co.uk%2fsport%2ffootball%2fpremier-league%2f5-contenders-to-replace-claude-puel-at-southampton-35828550.html&c=1639644004578900529&mkt=en-gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Bugger. Unless its a smokescreen of course... What would be the reasons for Klinsmann not matching our criteria I wonder? He's rubbish as a coach. That would be the first one that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Would the "Long Term Vision" mentioned here be in line with the monies expected to be available and increase our growth as a club from the Chinese investors? http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/southampton-search-for-manager-with-shared-longterm-vision-after-sacking-puel-35827863.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 If Sean Dyche wasn't ginger and was foreign no doubt people will be fawning over him. I quite like him and would be interesting to see how he would do at a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Dyche would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 Sorry don't see the appeal of Dyche, not in style of football nor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 June, 2017 Share Posted 15 June, 2017 (edited) Worth having a look back at last summer when Puel was appointed and what Les said. "When managers are appointed usually they want lots of changes. They want to bring their own staff, they want money to spend. If you go down that route you are putting everything you have built at risk." That has to impact who we will bring in and one the reason Puel was appointed. Would Tuchel work under those conditions? His falling out with the Dortmund board suggests not. http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/les-reed-reveals-lengthy-process-to-appoint-claude-puel/ar-AAktnFG Edited 15 June, 2017 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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