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    Don't we have a thread for this?

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    Apart from it being utter cobblers pulled from outright making stuff up from Ralph's interview where all he said was "the football side debrief next week".

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    Quote Originally Posted by The9 View Post
    Apart from it being utter cobblers pulled from outright making stuff up from Ralph's interview where all he said was "the football side debrief next week".
    The club are very good at PR. It's funny how all these stories have suddenly appeared in the last weeks. I would be shocked if they weren't leaked by the club to pave the way for his dismissal.

    I would say there is a very good chance he will be dismissed next week.

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    I fear there is no smoke without fire.

    A shame. He needed and deserved more time.

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    The melt down on here will dwarf all others if he is not

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    Just when I thought Les Reed couldn't get any dumber he goes and does something like this....

    AND TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF

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    Would be bad timing if true I think, we'd be in a much better position to keep hold of players if we had a new manager for a couple of games and a couple of good results before the window opens. And it will be complete lunacy if we lose him without having somebody lined up to take over immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igsey View Post
    Would be bad timing if true I think, we'd be in a much better position to keep hold of players if we had a new manager for a couple of games and a couple of good results before the window opens. And it will be complete lunacy if we lose him without having somebody lined up to take over immediately.
    If he's going to be sacked, next week is absolutely the best time to do t and get a new manager in far quicker than last year's elongated period. If he's lost the players someone needs to go and be replaced before mid June.

    Definitely no smoke without fire on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igsey View Post
    Would be bad timing if true I think, we'd be in a much better position to keep hold of players if we had a new manager for a couple of games and a couple of good results before the window opens. And it will be complete lunacy if we lose him without having somebody lined up to take over immediately.
    Or sack him early, re assure players who are unsettled and wait to see if your preferred target becomes available, if he isn't already.

    Most of our signing are made by the club (and not the manager) so I don't see what the rush is.

    As long as we have the new man in place by pre season, we'll be alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daft Kerplunk View Post
    If he's going to be sacked, next week is absolutely the best time to do t and get a new manager in far quicker than last year's elongated period. If he's lost the players someone needs to go and be replaced before mid June.

    Definitely no smoke without fire on this one.

    Maybe Les would rather sort out the clubs summer transfers without the inconvenience of a manager telling him what the squad needs or trying to get les to sign players he wants...

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    Will be tricky if we win 5-0 on Sunday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Maybe Les would rather sort out the clubs summer transfers without the inconvenience of a manager telling him what the squad needs or trying to get les to sign players he wants...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Will be tricky if we win 5-0 on Sunday.


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    Doubt it didn't Les sack Pardew just after we'd destroyed Bristol Rovers like 4-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Maybe Les would rather sort out the clubs summer transfers without the inconvenience of a manager telling him what the squad needs or trying to get les to sign players he wants...
    It's more about acting fast to avoid any speculation and get into the planning phase for me. The last two manager appointments haven't been optimal in a football sense. We can kind of forgive the first one as Koeman was a success and here had been semi upheaval with Cortese, then Poch and group of key players leaving.

    A good bit of swift decision making probably wouldn't be a bad thing if it's going to happen of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Will be tricky if we win 5-0 on Sunday.


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    it would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Will be tricky if we win 5-0 on Sunday.


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    If we do, plenty on here will still say:

    Too little too late
    We'll only be back to boredom next season
    Stoke are cr@p. Only 5?
    We got lucky
    But he won't pick that team again
    He was desperate to save himself

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    We do have an ungrateful bunch of fans, we are likely to finish 8/9th, the club will benefit by millions due to the high place in the league and still the manager is goign to be sacked.
    I do hope you fans who want him gone know what we may get once he's gone. The squad any manger would inherit will struggle to get the team up higher in the league. If they have a fit Austin Gabbi, and VVD then they would have a chance,

    Apparently (I was told this some months ago ) Steve Bruce is great friends with Les.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post

    Apparently (I was told this some months ago ) Steve Bruce is great friends with Les.
    Oh dear. 😞

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    We do have an ungrateful bunch of fans, we are likely to finish 8/9th, the club will benefit by millions due to the high place in the league and still the manager is goign to be sacked.
    I do hope you fans who want him gone know what we may get once he's gone. The squad any manger would inherit will struggle to get the team up higher in the league. If they have a fit Austin Gabbi, and VVD then they would have a chance,

    Apparently (I was told this some months ago ) Steve Bruce is great friends with Les.


    Lol Jesus could you imagine if we replaced Puel with Steve Bruce .😆





    Not that we will of course.

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    The club won't sack him based purely on moaning from the fans. For all we know he is hard to deal with for example. Maybe the club have seen his training methods? Who knows. The stories today highlight that the players aren't happy with a lot of things. Fan pressure will have some bearing but it won't be the only factor.

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    My guess is that the replacement is already lined up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Will be tricky if we win 5-0 on Sunday.


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    Well, we sacked Sturrock after a win v Blackburn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colinjb View Post
    I fear there is no smoke without fire.

    A shame. He needed and deserved more time.
    If you want another season of boring 90 minute matches and no goals, then fine. I'm done with the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Salvisa Jokanovic
    I did wonder, now they're out of the running


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    If you want another season of boring 90 minute matches and no goals, then fine. I'm done with the guy.
    Surprising. You are normally one of the more rational ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Doubt it didn't Les sack Pardew just after we'd destroyed Bristol Rovers like 4-0
    No. Cortese sacked Pardew, Cortese hire Adkins, Cortese hired Poch.

    Les got rid of the two best managers we've had in two decades. In fact by that Metric I would say Puel's job is safe.

    The rewriting of history on this board, and complete removal of credit with regards to NC is embarrassing. Just except that he was pivotal in where we are now. And in the 3 years since he left the club, we're in exactly the same spot in the league (although slightly worse, or slightly better depending on what metrics you use). The fact remains, why on earth people want to air brush him from history is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwsaint View Post
    My guess is that the replacement is already lined up.
    About to say I agree with this, then I remembered Fonte.

    More accurate to say Les THINKS the replacement is all lined up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by once_bitterne View Post
    Also in The Times this morning (paywall)

    Southampton players pushing for Puel exit

    Southampton look increasingly likely to part company with Claude Puel after complaints by the players about their manager.

    Chief among the issues is a concern over the way the team is being set up under the Frenchman. Some also believe Puel has favourites in the squad, regardless of form, while others have been unhappy with the decision to start Nathan Redmond in only three of the past six games. There is dissatisfaction, too, about Puel’s decision to name his starting side at the eleventh hour, leaving players less time to prepare.

    Ralph Krueger, the Southampton chairman, said that a review of the season will take place next week, but some fans have already turned against Puel, who succeeded Ronald Koeman last summer. Puel led the club to the EFL Cup final, in which they lost to Manchester United, and eighth place in the Premier League — two places below where they finished last season — with one game to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicBoom View Post
    The club won't sack him based purely on moaning from the fans. For all we know he is hard to deal with for example. Maybe the club have seen his training methods? Who knows. The stories today highlight that the players aren't happy with a lot of things. Fan pressure will have some bearing but it won't be the only factor.
    Poor season ticket renewals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    No. Cortese sacked Pardew, Cortese hire Adkins, Cortese hired Poch.

    Les got rid of the two best managers we've had in two decades. In fact by that Metric I would say Puel's job is safe.

    The rewriting of history on this board, and complete removal of credit with regards to NC is embarrassing. Just except that he was pivotal in where we are now. And in the 3 years since he left the club, we're in exactly the same spot in the league (although slightly worse, or slightly better depending on what metrics you use). The fact remains, why on earth people want to air brush him from history is beyond me.
    Calm down mate. He was simply pointing out that Pardew got sacked after a 4 - 0 win. It's not really relevant who pulled the trigger, the point he was making was that irrespective of the result at the weekend CP is not safe.

    As for airbrushing NC out of our history - cant say that I've noticed that at all. I think that most fans recognize that he was pivotal in our initial rise through the leagues to where we are now - everybody is thankful of his contribution as far as I can make out. He got the bullet, as I understand it, because he was less than frugal with other peoples money. Cant argue with that. You obviously idolize the guy, and that's fair enough, but if he really was all that, wouldn't some other club have snapped his hand off and installed him at the helm. Just asking like, chill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwsaint View Post
    My guess is that the replacement is already lined up.
    It is. It is the responsibility of the 'Black Box' to have already checked out replacements for everybody in the club - a well known fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Just when I thought Les Reed couldn't get any dumber he goes and does something like this....

    AND TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF
    Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    If we do, plenty on here will still say:

    Too little too late
    We'll only be back to boredom next season
    Stoke are cr@p. Only 5?
    We got lucky
    But he won't pick that team again
    He was desperate to save himself

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    And they'd be right. Crazy to base managerial decisions on final day games where no-one has anything to play for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    No. Cortese sacked Pardew, Cortese hire Adkins, Cortese hired Poch.

    Les got rid of the two best managers we've had in two decades. In fact by that Metric I would say Puel's job is safe.

    The rewriting of history on this board, and complete removal of credit with regards to NC is embarrassing. Just except that he was pivotal in where we are now. And in the 3 years since he left the club, we're in exactly the same spot in the league (although slightly worse, or slightly better depending on what metrics you use). The fact remains, why on earth people want to air brush him from history is beyond me.
    "Got rid" is a very funny way of saying being paid compensation by bigger clubs (like it or not) for them.

    And as for airbrushing history, Cortese would know all about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Also in The Times this morning (paywall)

    Southampton players pushing for Puel exit

    Southampton look increasingly likely to part company with Claude Puel after complaints by the players about their manager.

    Chief among the issues is a concern over the way the team is being set up under the Frenchman. Some also believe Puel has favourites in the squad, regardless of form, while others have been unhappy with the decision to start Nathan Redmond in only three of the past six games. There is dissatisfaction, too, about Puel’s decision to name his starting side at the eleventh hour, leaving players less time to prepare.

    Ralph Krueger, the Southampton chairman, said that a review of the season will take place next week, but some fans have already turned against Puel, who succeeded Ronald Koeman last summer. Puel led the club to the EFL Cup final, in which they lost to Manchester United, and eighth place in the Premier League — two places below where they finished last season — with one game to go.

    Can I just add that I and a few other stated they were unhappy a few weeks ago... Obviously not believed by the usual suspects as it was negative towards the club, but unless the papers have been reading here (very doubtful) it appears they've been told the same thing as me

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    And they'd be right. Crazy to base managerial decisions on final day games where no-one has anything to play for.
    Stuart "conqueror of Man Utd & Arsenal" Gray springs to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKD View Post
    Can I just add that I and a few other stated they were unhappy a few weeks ago... Obviously not believed by the usual suspects as it was negative towards the club, but unless the papers have been reading here (very doubtful) it appears they've been told the same thing as me

    The papers state the players are unhappy and not starting and that certain players always get picked despite form. I'm intrigued to know who these always get picked players are?

    The only players who seem to have got constant game time ( considering Puel has been criticised for to much rotation) are Davis and Forster and the back four. So who are the players who think they should be starting in front of others every week?

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    Ian Branfoot is ready and willing to step in at short notice. Feels he has to finish the job he left behind.

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    Clasie for one seems to get pretty harsh treatment. Caceres we've seen once. Maybe Hoj is a bit miffed at few starts? Or perhaps Jay Rod has been throwing his nappies around. He looks the type. I think Puel would do himself a few favours by just, occasionally, playing a winning team. Rotation or no rotation. Winning sure is a good pain reliever.

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    It would be handy if we could keep all of the Puel out stuff to one convenient thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    The papers state the players are unhappy and not starting and that certain players always get picked despite form. I'm intrigued to know who these always get picked players are?

    The only players who seem to have got constant game time ( considering Puel has been criticised for to much rotation) are Davis and Forster and the back four. So who are the players who think they should be starting in front of others every week?
    In all honesty that part is news to me, so I can't confirm the validity of that. I was just aware that a large number of the squad weren't exactly impressed with Puel's (including Black in this as well) methods and philosophy (a bit like the fans) to put it nicely. I was also aware that a number wanted out come the end of the season. If this will change now it appears Puel will go, I don't know? I suspect Bertrand may well still go.

    I'm assuming those that feel he has favorites are like likes of Clasie, who no matter how well he plays, gets dropped the next game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Albert View Post
    It would be handy if we could keep all of the Puel out stuff to one convenient thread.
    I seem to recall making that point at #2.

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    Chief among the issues is a concern over the way the team is being set up under the Frenchman. Some also believe Puel has favourites in the squad, regardless of form, while others have been unhappy with the decision to start Nathan Redmond in only three of the past six games. There is dissatisfaction, too, about Puel’s decision to name his starting side at the eleventh hour, leaving players less time to prepare.
    Really? Leaving the professional players less time to prepare? I expect the whole sodding squad to be ready and eager to play, like when I'm not in my team's matchday squad and still chuck my boots in the boot when I go along to watch in case I get the opportunity to be on the bench and pay subs' match fees. As for players not being happy not playing, quite right too. Redmond hasn't had good games every time he's played either and nor has Tadic. And if he doesn't play "his favourites" he gets criticised for rotation.

    There's room for improvement and we desparately need to score more goals, but some of the criticism is inconsistent c**p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKD View Post
    In all honesty that part is news to me, so I can't confirm the validity of that. I was just aware that a large number of the squad weren't exactly impressed with Puel's (including Black in this as well) methods and philosophy (a bit like the fans) to put it nicely. I was also aware that a number wanted out come the end of the season. If this will change now it appears Puel will go, I don't know? I suspect Bertrand may well still go.

    I'm assuming those that feel he has favorites are like likes of Clasie, who no matter how well he plays, gets dropped the next game.

    It's weird both Hazard and Henry have both praised his methods maybe Puels methods work best on world class players 😜

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    It's weird both Hazard and Henry have both praised his methods maybe Puels methods work best on world class players ��
    I'm sure he is a very good manager, just one that is not suited to the fast pace of English football.

    As I've said, not all down to Puel, you've got to look at his assistant as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKD View Post
    I'm sure he is a very good manager, just one that is not suited to the fast pace of English football.

    As I've said, not all down to Puel, you've got to look at his assistant as well....
    I'm much more concerned to get rid of Black.

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    I wonder if Puel would be prepared to work under a more experienced premier league manager? Perhaps learn under Pellegrini for 2-3 seasons and then take the reins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    I wonder if Puel would be prepared to work under a more experienced premier league manager? Perhaps learn under Pellegrini for 2-3 seasons and then take the reins?
    Would Pellegrini make Puel's lunch and pack his lunchbox too?

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