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    Only surprised we scored two. On to a defeat at United.

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    I'd say as expected, but it wasn't, it was much better than that because we scored 2 and only conceded 5.

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    That's what happens when you allow an incompetent manager to destroy your very talented squad, and then hire an equally terrible manager straight after.

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    Just for a bit the players seemed to give up with all that negative defensive pass it back rubbish that made them frightened to play. Rather bizarrely Saints could have had more than 2. But then again Spurs could have had more than 5. If that Lemina shot had sneaked in under the bar then who knows?

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    Very unlucky in the end, If Spurs never scored 5 goals we would of won 2-0.
    Onto the next game Pellegrino and lets hope we carry on with this progress under you.

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    Those two mistakes by Lloris will have bought Pellegrino more time. It was an awful performance but can't see us sacking Pell until after Palace at home at the earliest.

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    GET THIS CLUELESS IDIOT OUT BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!

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    End of the road for MoPe, surely???

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    Quote Originally Posted by niceandfriendly View Post
    That's what happens when you allow an incompetent manager to destroy your very talented squad, and then hire an equally terrible manager straight after.
    Only Puel wasn't incompetent. Defensive, yes - but then look at the players at his disposal. The current manager is, however, 100% incompetent.

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    2 goal keeper howlers doesn't even cover the fact we were so awful. That was worse than that Arsenal game under Puel last season.

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    Embarrassing.

    We need the manager out now and Reed needs to follow.

    Redmond is a ****ing joke, glad he got boo'd by our fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niceandfriendly View Post
    That's what happens when you allow an incompetent manager to destroy your very talented squad, and then hire an equally terrible manager straight after.
    That's nice, dear.

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    Says everything about the quality of the manager/coaching when you set up as defensively as we did at the start and still concede 5 goals.

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    Spurs barely played above walking pace and still managed to score five. I hope two late consolation goalkeeping errors aren't going to falsely convince anyone that they can see green shoots of progress in the last 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    He'll never get his head round it.
    The point being that if Puel had been left in position and backed, we wouldn't be sliding into the relegation zone as 2017 draws to a close. The fact is we didn't have a European football-level manager ready to sign on the dotted line to replace him so he shouldn't have been sacked.

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    He has to be sacked its getting ridiculous. I expect protests if he isn't gone after United.

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    Losing away at Spurs, City, and United won't be the reason we go down. Not beating Swansea, Burnley, and Huddersfield at home is.

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    Seen enough get rid of this incompetent clown. I wouldn't even risk giving him transfer kitty absolute terrible manager........

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    Reminds me of Portvliet.

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    The Eric Black cloud has been lifted and you can see it in the fantastic performances and results.

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    The 2 goals and couple of missed chances are sufficient ammunition to spin an argument we were unlucky (if you ignore all the chances Tottenham should have scored from) and keep this hopeless manager in a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verlaine1979 View Post
    Spurs barely played above walking pace and still managed to score five. I hope two late consolation goalkeeping errors aren't going to falsely convince anyone that they can see green shoots of progress in the last 15 minutes.
    Bit harsh to put Boufal's goal down to a goalkeeping error; it was a very decent strike from Boufal. You're right though, the two goals shouldn't delay the exit of Pellegrino.

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    If the manager doesn't get the boot after that then you have to wonder whether the new owners care about staying in the Premier League.

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    I can’t believe anyone expected us to win there today! Spurs were excellent for the win and we are lucky to have conceded only 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    The point being that if Puel had been left in position and backed, we wouldn't be sliding into the relegation zone as 2017 draws to a close. The fact is we didn't have a European football-level manager ready to sign on the dotted line to replace him so he shouldn't have been sacked.
    That may be right but the whole "fans who wanted Puel out are getting what they deserved" is tiresome and wrong. Nobody asked for Pellegrino to be inflicted upon us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgerx16 View Post
    Losing away at Spurs, City, and United won't be the reason we go down. Not beating Swansea, Burnley, and Huddersfield at home is.
    Or Newcastle.

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    That was simply embarrassing.

    He has to go - how have we manag d to coach so many players into such regression? Forster, Romeu, Redmond, Gabbbiadini, long, Davis. All far worse today than 12-18 months ago. And now add lamina to the list. First game he was an immense presence, today a completely anonymous bystander.

    In footballing terms, this is a proper crisis and needs some very quick decisive action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    The Eric Black cloud has been lifted and you can see it in the fantastic performances and results.
    We had an incompetent manager working alongside an incompetent coach. Losing the coach doesn't alter the fact that the manager is out of his depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    The point being that if Puel had been left in position and backed, we wouldn't be sliding into the relegation zone as 2017 draws to a close. The fact is we didn't have a European football-level manager ready to sign on the dotted line to replace him so he shouldn't have been sacked.
    That may be right but the whole "fans who wanted Puel out are getting what they deserved" is tiresome and wrong. Nobody asked for Pellegrino to be inflicted upon us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obelisk View Post
    Just for a bit the players seemed to give up with all that negative defensive pass it back rubbish that made them frightened to play. Rather bizarrely Saints could have had more than 2. But then again Spurs could have had more than 5. If that Lemina shot had sneaked in under the bar then who knows?
    And Long put away his one on one. 2-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronCitySaint View Post
    If the manager doesn't get the boot after that then you have to wonder whether the new owners care about staying in the Premier League.
    Of course they do, thatís pretty much all they care about

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Only Puel wasn't incompetent. Defensive, yes - but then look at the players at his disposal. The current manager is, however, 100% incompetent.
    Must we have this every time? The majority of attacking players went severely downhill under Puel.

    It's irrelevant now, good or bad, he's not here. Pellegrino has a decent squad, easily good enough to compete with 8th in this league of dross. Yet we've gone from sleepwalking to relegation to outright sprinting towards it.

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    Are the five Spurs goals enough ammunition for the board to sack Pellegrino? I do hope so. When we first announced that we were signing him, I thought that they were talking of the other one, the silver fox that managed City. What a pity that it wasn't him instead of Mauricio P, Mk11, (but nowhere near in the same class), ex-international Argentinian CB.

    It was nostalgic watching the original and best Mauricio demolish us with his trademark high press that used to entertain us so much.

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    The good thing about today was that it was the exceptionally good Harry Kane who scored the hat-trick, and not Ronnie ****ing Rosenthal.

    I've seen worse.

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    Never been so apathetic towards saints goals.

    clown must leave and a number of players need to be cleared out or at least benched for a long time.

    so negative

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    In my dreams we had our replacement manager in the directors box, watching us...preparing for when he takes over next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    And Long put away his one on one. 2-2.
    And Kane gets a couple of his misses on target ; 4-2. The one given with this Saints squad is that Long won't score.

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    One thing is for sure...he'll drop Boufal for the next game now.

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    Even the commentators were talking about how passive we were. A team plays in the character of its manager. Standing off the ball and not pressing hard has cost us dearly this season. We need a manager that believes in attacking the ball not passing it around until the opponents press takes it back. As soon as we got on the front foot and got the ball up front quickly and attacking the ball we were so much better. Forster has lost his way he is so hesitant he is a liability. Redmond's thoughtless back pass that opened us up was awful,

    We need to get rid of Pellegrino for starters, change the goal keeping coach and apart from strengthening the side, play the strongest team all the time. I thought Romeu and Hojbjerg were better together but Lamina could be an attacking midfielder. For me add Long, Boufal and Gabbiadini and we have the makings of a competitive team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torsaint View Post
    Reminds me of Portvliet.
    I see the likeness but at least under Jan we played decent football and blooded some youngsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torsaint View Post
    Reminds me of Portvliet.
    Poortvliet 32 points from 32 games with what was a diabolical squad for the championship and no money to spend. MP = 19 points from 20 matches with a side that a decent/average manager could easily guide to a higher position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torsaint View Post
    Reminds me of Portvliet.
    Harsh. He had a team of kids playing ok football but ultimately with zero expectations.

    MP has a big squad of expensive players who have nearly all proven they can perform well at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    I can’t believe anyone expected us to win there today! Spurs were excellent for the win and we are lucky to have conceded only 5.
    They didn’t even play that well and scored 5.

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    No cohesion. No drive. No urgency. Second to the ball most times. Dalying in possession. Static when attacking. Cumbersome when defending. Slow reactions all over the pitch. For me, that was a horror show. Either the players are being coached to play that way, or MoPe has completely lost any of the dressing room he had. Either way, I think his time is up. Even he should be praying for it now. I'm not normally one to call for a sacking, in fact I think time should be given in most cases, but the deterioration in our performances in terrifying. Surely it can't continue for any longer. We are in a relegation battle, and there seems to be an acceptance from the players, like it already a given. There is no fight, no character. Many of these players were challenging for European football not so long ago, so it stands to reason that they have the ability. I can see no other reason for our predicament than **** poor management. As much as I would love to see MoPe admit it is step too far for him and fall on his sword, it just isn't going to happen. He needs to be replaced poste haste, for his and the teams benefit.

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    Flat, defeated, empty.

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    Utterly shyte until they scored the fourth and then we moved up a level to below par

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    Quote Originally Posted by torsaint View Post
    Reminds me of Portvliet.
    It's a different situation. Poortvliet was given a terrible squad. Even then, you could see what he was trying to do though and there was evidence of some positive coaching.

    This squad is not one of the worst in the division but there is no evidence the manager has any clue how to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    And Long put away his one on one. 2-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Spurs were excellent for the win and we are lucky to have conceded only 5.
    Are Spurs better than Man City? It took them until 6 seconds past full time and added on time to beat us. For all that we were torn apart by Spurs, having Van-Dijk, Bertrand and Cedric alongside Hoedt and Yoshida might have made a difference. Unlucky not to have our first choice full backs, but Van-Dijk might have kept out Kane for one or more of his goals and might also have done something about the Son and Ali goals too.

    I'm quite amazed that we scored two without Austin and those goals not being from a striker. Nearly had one courtesy of Rose too. Bertrand is a far better player than him.

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    He has to go; he's had long enough. We have a decent enough squad, with the exception of Redmond and Forster ( who seem to be the only certain picks each week yet have been ****ing abysmal).

    The whole of the backroom staff needs an overhaul too. I really do hope Les has had a back up plan, otherwise relegation is a massive possibility

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