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Some limited changes to capitalise on leg weary Palace I think. 4231 with McCarthy, Pied, Hoedt, Yoshida, Bertrand, Romeu, Hojberg, Davis, JWP, Tadic, Boufal. Hit them with Long, Redmond as second half goes on. Stephens doesn’t deserve to be dropped per se, but think we need overlapping fullbacks

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This is the most important game of the season. Anything less than three points would be very disappointing.

 

The fans in the stadium need to up their game, because the atmosphere has been really poor at home recently.

 

I agree. We need a little run of good results to pull clear of the bunfight. A defeat would put us right in.

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Personally, I’d play them both at home.

 

 

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There's an argument for that. Also hope not too much rotation.

 

McCarthy

JWP Maya Stephens Hoedt McQueen

Lemina Hojbjerg

Boufal

Long Gabbiadini

 

Maybe Tadic for one of the front two.

 

Maybe Davis for JWP, then a different shape. Not convinced by Stephens at RB.

 

I thought we moved to a back five quite early yesterday, as above.

 

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The way Palace set up plays exactly to our weaknesses. Big centre forward and 2 flying wingers, they’re now pretty hard to break down and they break quickly. I’m just hoping that 2 games since Thursday, including one today will catch up with them, more than us who’ve had an extra day. Otherwise this is a tough game

 

 

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This is the most important game of the season. Anything less than three points would be very disappointing.

 

The fans in the stadium need to up their game, because the atmosphere has been really poor at home recently.

 

Palace fans are always up for it.

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There's an argument for that. Also hope not too much rotation.

 

McCarthy

JWP Maya Stephens Hoedt McQueen

Lemina Hojbjerg

Boufal

Long Gabbiadini

 

Maybe Tadic for one of the front two.

 

Maybe Davis for JWP, then a different shape. Not convinced by Stephens at RB.

 

I thought we moved to a back five quite early yesterday, as above.

 

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That is our best team at the moment. Would have Cedric and Bertrand if available.

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Palace haven't lost in any of the last 5 matches whereas we haven't won. I personally think that they, like us, are better than their position suggests. However the signs are that they have a manager that is getting their act together.

 

Palace have goals in them whereas we don't. Goalless draw or loss I'm afraid.

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Palace haven't lost in any of the last 5 matches whereas we haven't won. I personally think that they, like us, are better than their position suggests. However the signs are that they have a manager that is getting their act together.

 

Palace have goals in them whereas we don't. Goalless draw or loss I'm afraid.

 

They lost to Arsenal in their game before City - but went 8 without losing before that. Mad they're only 1 point behind us considering they didn't score / get any points for 8 games

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Palace haven't lost in any of the last 5 matches whereas we haven't won. I personally think that they, like us, are better than their position suggests. However the signs are that they have a manager that is getting their act together.

 

Palace have goals in them whereas we don't. Goalless draw or loss I'm afraid.

 

Form Table is pretty damning.....

 

Last 6 matches (HOME AND AWAY)

 

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[TD]1[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Manchester City[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]14[/TD]

[TD]18[/TD]

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[TD]2[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Tottenham Hotspur[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]12[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]13[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Chelsea[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]13[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Liverpool[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]12[/TD]

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[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Crystal Palace[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Huddersfield Town[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Everton[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Manchester United[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Arsenal[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

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[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]10[/TD]

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[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-1[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

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[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]11[/TD]

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[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]12[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Leicester City[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-1[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]13[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Swansea City[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-9[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]14[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Brighton and Hove Albion[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-5[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]15[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]AFC Bournemouth[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-8[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]16[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Newcastle United[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-3[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]17[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Stoke City[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]12[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-11[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]18[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]West Bromwich Albion[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-4[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

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[TR=class: r1, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]

[TD]19[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Watford[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-6[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

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[TR=class: r2, bgcolor: #DDDDDD]

[TD]20[/TD]

[TD=class: teamname, align: left]Southampton[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD] [/TD]

[TD]-7[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

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Same starting 11 please!
Unless Bertrand is fit.
I'd stick with McQueen. Thought he had a good game yesterday and had a bit more enthusiasm about him compared to Bertrand in recent times. IMO, we need to create a vibe of having to win back your place in the team rather than players feeling entitled to being first choice. Let's create some healthy competition for places and ramp up the desire to play for the team.
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I'd stick with McQueen. Thought he had a good game yesterday and had a bit more enthusiasm about him compared to Bertrand in recent times. IMO, we need to create a vibe of having to win back your place in the team rather than players feeling entitled to being first choice. Let's create some healthy competition for places and ramp up the desire to play for the team.

 

Nonsense, if Bertrand is fit enough to play against Palace and Zaha, he plays.

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