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    Quote Originally Posted by saint77 View Post
    Dean has said he was to close to action to see Alonso trying to break longs leg what a klucking joke no wonder we have no refs at this years World Cup
    No excuse for defeat but Alonso was involved in some shape in all Chelsea goals
    What a joke. Shroppie is angry and that doesn't happen very often.

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    First hour was the best performance of the season. Players gave their all, outplayed Chelsea and the formation looked good. I said to the guy next to me “next goals the winner”. Once you give one away at 2-0 you’re always up against it, even more so when you play a top side. They only played for 10/15 minutes, but they’re good enough to beat poor sides in that spell. We played a lot better than West Ham did, but Chelsea missed chance after chance that day. Play like that Thurs and we’ll beat Leicester.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbo View Post
    To be fair Mike Dean cost us today with Alonso not being sent off and then not bringing play back for penalty on Long which he later did for Hazard and they scored from freekick
    And that free kick should have been re-taken as it was a moving ball and taken from the wrong place.

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    Ifwe had played with the desire and effort as we did today against the lesser team's we wouldn't be in the position we are in now.

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    Lack of concentration for 10 minutes cost us. Especially the first goal which gave Chelsea a way back into it. Great ball in but Yoshida was walking back and never sensed the danger to get the right side of Giroud. As another poster said, cant keep conceding 3 goals and expect to win games. On the plus side we have been more positive going forward the last few games. Thought Bednarek done very well and showed up his fellow centre backs.

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    Deserved more out of that game.

    Got a feeling we'll get our revenge at Wembley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toomer View Post
    And that free kick should have been re-taken as it was a moving ball and taken from the wrong place.
    The irony was he pulled them back for not taking it in the right place, only to let them take it from the same (wrong spot) place and possibly when it was still moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_D View Post
    Deserved more out of that game.

    Got a feeling we'll get our revenge at Wembley.
    Rather have three points today, or Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Rather have three points today, or Thursday.

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    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Rather have three points today, or Thursday.

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    I'd rather have the chance to win the fa cup than stay up !

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    I'd rather have the chance to win the fa cup than stay up !
    Then you obviously don't appreciate the dire financial consequences of going down. 50% of backroom staff will be redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Then you obviously don't appreciate the dire financial consequences of going down. 50% of backroom staff will be redundant.

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    I couldn't care less about financial consequences tbh I'd rather have a cup win and if we have to spend 5 years in the lower leagues so be it !

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    Other results now putting it in context. 5 points adrift. 2 wins needed just to stay afloat assuming the teams above don't pick up any points..

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    I couldn't care less about financial consequences tbh I'd rather have a cup win and if we have to spend 5 years in the lower leagues so be it !
    I agree, win the cup and then I don’t hahve to continue this depressing football club any longer. 40 years of hurt is long enough for me. A cup win and retire happy.

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    Lack of leadership. At 2-1 you needed someone to grab those players together, calm them down, and settle it down.

    There was nothing. We were on the ropes as soon as they got 1 goal, to ship 3 in 8 mins is nothing other than a shocking mentality. We have a bunch of meek and mild fairy’s, built by the awesome Ross Wilson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    What would you have changed mate? Pied was the only defensive player on the bench, not even any centre mids.

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    Err no he wasn’t

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    That feels like a defeat.

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    Bottom line was as a team we were bloody thick!
    Chelsea were taking and trying to take all their free kicks quickly, yet to a man we were snoozing ambling into position.
    Once they scored you could see the fragility run through the team like wildfire. Their second goal was like our defence were in the middle of a bad dream where you can't run away from the monster fast enough, except we were hemmed in and no one could put their boot through the ball and get it away.

    The upper management of the club should be bloody ashamed of themselves, they have F'd the whole thing up spectacularily - but in reality don't give a tinkers cuss because Football is probably the only business where failure is rewarded by @r$e armouring contracts

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    Quote Originally Posted by K,Billy's supersound View Post
    you are a ****
    Go to Hell

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    You cannot blame referees for our league position. Bad decisions happen, and may well favour the "big" teams, but if Dean had booked Alonso things wouldn't have turned out differently; the moment Giroud came on it was a dead cert that he would score, and our defence would crumble. Even if they had gone down to 10, I would suspect we would still have crumbled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    I'd rather have the chance to win the fa cup than stay up !
    Seriously? That beggars belief, you'd rather us lose our premiership status & face years of hardship ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Lack of leadership. At 2-1 you needed someone to grab those players together, calm them down, and settle it down.

    There was nothing. We were on the ropes as soon as they got 1 goal, to ship 3 in 8 mins is nothing other than a shocking mentality. We have a bunch of meek and mild fairy’s, built by the awesome Ross Wilson.
    Agreed. Where was our captain? Oh yeah, we sold them

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    I'd rather have the chance to win the fa cup than stay up !
    Like Wigan????

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    Played well for an hour but yet again not the full 90. We are totally ****ed now with this run in and today’s results. Les, do the decent thing and resign.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    "A 2-0 lead is always a difficult one to protect."

    Ohh please Hughes that is just complete nonsense.
    Literally the ****test cliche in football.

    95% of teams who take a 2 goal lead win their games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Like Wigan????
    And ****smouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    Being beaten by Bournemouth 4-1 at home would be way worse.

    So we're either going to beat Bournemouth 4-3 or lose 4-1.
    No it wouldn't. What are you on about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    No, as I told him in the reply to his stupid 'respect me' message, he has labelled himself, not anyone on this forum. He is a dickhead of a troll.

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    I`ve had 3 from the troll too
    He seems to be allowed to post on in his trolling style by the powers on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Seriously? That beggars belief, you'd rather us lose our premiership status & face years of hardship ?

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    I was still going in league 1 so no matter what "hardship" there is the fans will still be there , the blood suckers milking the club will be the only ones who won't be (I include players and management in that) !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Like Wigan????
    Ask any Wigan fan they wouldn't trade their fa cup win for premier league football !

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    Ryan Bertrand is not captain material. Couldn't lead a bunch of girl guides. Pathetic gutless player who isn't fit to wear the Saints shirt. Too many chavvy tattoos aswell. Thinks he's some kind of gangsta, but in reality he is a first class pussy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Seriously? That beggars belief, you'd rather us lose our premiership status & face years of hardship ?

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    I would also take the chance of the cup and relegation...you have fallen I tot he trap that makes teams play second string teams in an FA CUP quarter final because the premier league is the be all and end all....well it isn't.
    It isn't even that great..the football is boring, teams play not to lose, the big 6 roll over everyone else and then if anyone else dares to get close they unsettle the players and off they go.

    Sport is actually about winning trophys not about surviving in the premier league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Fred View Post
    I would also take the chance of the cup and relegation...you have fallen I tot he trap that makes teams play second string teams in an FA CUP quarter final because the premier league is the be all and end all....well it isn't.
    It isn't even that great..the football is boring, teams play not to lose, the big 6 roll over everyone else and then if anyone else dares to get close they unsettle the players and off they go.

    Sport is actually about winning trophys not about surviving in the premier league.
    What about it cup semi final defeat and relegation?

    Amazing times, yeah?

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    Years of hardship... as if. I'd say Aston Villa were a bigger mess than what we are now and look at them now.

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    Regardless of people saying our players 'capitulated' and they're not good enough for the squad, I thought we played excellently today. Alonso wasn't sent off, clear red card, but don't think that affected the team other than the fact we would have probably won had that not been the case.

    Our team didn't 'give up' at all, they just panicked. First half clearances were generally calm, trying to play the ball and get up the field. Second half, 2-0 up, our defense was panicking, scrambling to get the ball out of our half. It's not so much 'game management' as trying to play with the same cool and calmness when we were winning comfortably.

    Only thing I can think that would change that is having 1-2 players in defense/midfield who can bring a level head and leadership to the back. Been sorely missing for some years now.

    Real shame. Championship almost nailed on with Huddersfield and Palace winning.

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    These last two matches were tough, competitive losses to top teams. These past two matches aren't the issue, its all the crap we gave away versus the middle and bottom teams that are killing us. We're not down yet. If we play the same, we can win against any of the next 4 opponents. We still have 12 pts to grab, and IMO 8-9 may do it. I certainly don't want to wait until the last match against Man City to have to get points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefoggy View Post
    Ryan Bertrand is not captain material. Couldn't lead a bunch of girl guides. Pathetic gutless player who isn't fit to wear the Saints shirt. Too many chavvy tattoos aswell. Thinks he's some kind of gangsta, but in reality he is a first class pussy
    He played well today but didn’t rally the troops at 2–1 or 2-2 and was seen having a good laugh with Chelsea players at the final whistle.

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    Just out of interest, and I'm not trolling here, as I'm genuinely racking my brains, has there ever been a club in the top division who came 8th or above in the top division sacked their manager and got relegated the next season? There probably has, but I can't think of one

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    I'm not a fan of obscenities, but Mike Dean is f****** c*** of the highest order. What an utter t0553r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Fred View Post
    Sport is actually about winning trophys not about surviving in the premier league.
    Yep 100%

    We have won one cup in over 130 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefoggy View Post
    Ryan Bertrand is not captain material. Couldn't lead a bunch of girl guides. Pathetic gutless player who isn't fit to wear the Saints shirt. Too many chavvy tattoos aswell. Thinks he's some kind of gangsta, but in reality he is a first class pussy
    Lol

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    As I was saying earlier, Hughes should of freshened up the team once the first Chelsea goal went in.
    We had most players on a yellow and so many players backed off.
    Lemima for Romeu, Sims for JWP and Austin for Long.

    I’ve always believed the best form of defence is attack and with fresh legs Chelsea would not of piled 9 players forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadesmith View Post
    Just out of interest, and I'm not trolling here, as I'm genuinely racking my brains, has there ever been a club in the top division who came 8th or above in the top division sacked their manager and got relegated the next season? There probably has, but I can't think of one
    Manchester City won the league and then managed to get relegated the following season. Mind you it was a while ago - won the league in 1936/37 and relegated in 1937/38. No idea whether they sacked their manager,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Fred View Post
    The irony was he pulled them back for not taking it in the right place, only to let them take it from the same (wrong spot) place and possibly when it was still moving.
    This complaining about where the kick was taken from is all very feeble though. They took the kick from where the offence (if any) actually occurred but not from where Mike Dean was pointing.

    We were naive and got caught out. Instead of the players complaining about the location they should have got back and defended. Does a few yards on the halfway line make any difference when the ball is played out to the wing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBizzier69 View Post
    I'm not a fan of obscenities, but Mike Dean is f****** c*** of the highest order. What an utter t0553r.
    It wasn’t his fault that our defence was sh!t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    It wasn’t his fault that our defence was sh!t.
    No but he was at fault for allowing a player who played a part in all of their goals stay on the pitch !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    I`ve had 3 from the troll too
    He seems to be allowed to post on in his trolling style by the powers on here
    You too...! Damn, I'm beginning to feel less unique by the minute - I thought it was only me that he was stalking with IM's. Got yet another one from him today simply saying 'Triggered' (what is that, anybody...? I'm nearly 60 and not really down with the kids, so I'm not sure if I'm meant to feel intimidated by him now). Anyway, I've replied 'nicely' telling him that I still don't respect him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    As I was saying earlier, Hughes should of freshened up the team once the first Chelsea goal went in.
    We had most players on a yellow and so many players backed off.
    Lemima for Romeu, Sims for JWP and Austin for Long.

    I’ve always believed the best form of defence is attack and with fresh legs Chelsea would not of piled 9 players forward.
    Yep, I totally agree. (Except for Sims). At 2-1 take the steam out of the game.

    And what the f*** were they trying to do for Hazard’s goal. We had 8 players to their 4 and they still gave Hazard time and space to kill the ball and blast it into the net. That’s the trouble with trying to pack the box, the man-marking goes out of the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwsaint View Post
    Manchester City won the league and then managed to get relegated the following season. Mind you it was a while ago - won the league in 1936/37 and relegated in 1937/38. No idea whether they sacked their manager,
    Good shout, I'm impressed.

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    Desperate result today. Cannot believe what happened after all that hard work to get to 2-0.

    At least there is some fight in the team, but we are virtually down now.

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