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    Whatever he says it will be an absolute load of b*llocks. Just resign mate and save us all the hassle.

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    @AdamBlackmore

    #saintsfc started talks with Mark Hughes yesterday morning, chairman Ralph Krueger has told BBC Radio Solent:

    "Mark Hughes came in and fit like a glove, together with his coaching team.

    Mark fits perfectly and we're in conversation with him right now"

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    https://twitter.com/adamleitchsport/...24836191748096

    @adamleitchsport: Had an hour one-on-one interview with Ralph Krueger today. Lots of stuff, much expected but a couple of surprises too. Will be out over next two days. For those already asking he says Les Reed and the board to stay in place #SaintsFC

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    Default Ralph Krueger on the clubs season, trying to keep Mark Hughes and future of Les Reed

    Not a peep from les but he stays ffs

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    Reed staying is a ****ing nightmare

    **** off Leslie you're finished you plank

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    He says they had 12 hours after the Newcastle game to go over available managers and Mark very quickly topped the list

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    I don't mind Krueger to be honest. I know his statements are mostly waffle, but apart cringing at his various soundbites, it's harmless enough. I'm not quite sure what he brings to the table, but when I look at the things that have gone wrong of late they appear to be more Reed's responsibility. I could be totally wrong of course, but it's my perception.

    Obviously it's good we stayed up, but Ralph must be smarting that we didn't manage a single-digit finish this year.

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    "A semi championship-won feeling"

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    Christ they didnt realise until January.....what were they in hibernation

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    That's disappointing news about Reed.

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    Hope people have learned about keeping unhappy players. All we have when Saints are mentioned this season was 'they sold too many players', yet last summer was the first time we didn't sell. The result was an unhappy squad and no time to reinvest when the sale did happen in January.

    Selling and replacing got us our success. One season of struggle and the pundits just bleat on with the same generic crap, no actual insight or awareness of what's been going on.

    Bertrand will probably go and people will moan again. Personally i'd rather just sell anyone who doesn't want to be here, get the best price and move on. If you can end up rubbish with Van Dijk in the team, there's zero point keeping anyone who'll force a move like that. Plenty of decent young talent out there. Won't get it right every time but our record has been decent. Even Tadic, Romeu, Hojbjerg were all replacements for players sold and they'd be in most people's teams despite a difficult season.

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    At least the penny appears to have dropped about the ****e we’ve watched for two years prior to Hughes coming in and re-igniting “The Southampton Way”

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Hope people have learned about keeping unhappy players. All we have when Saints are mentioned this season was 'they sold too many players', yet last summer was the first time we didn't sell. The result was an unhappy squad and no time to reinvest when the sale did happen in January.

    Selling and replacing got us our success. One season of struggle and the pundits just bleat on with the same generic crap, no actual insight or awareness of what's been going on.

    Bertrand will probably go and people will moan again. Personally i'd rather just sell anyone who doesn't want to be here, get the best price and move on. If you can end up rubbish with Van Dijk in the team, there's zero point keeping anyone who'll force a move like that. Plenty of decent young talent out there. Won't get it right every time but our record has been decent. Even Tadic, Romeu, Hojbjerg were all replacements for players sold and they'd be in most people's teams despite a difficult season.
    This is nearly as bad as the crap ralph just spouted.

    To reduce all our failures over the past two seasons to keeping an unhappy VVD -as Ralph comes dangerously close to doing- is utterly blinkered, never mind that strategy worked in the case of Morgan, Wanyama and Mane.

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    Jesus, Ralph just said "stable and strong"... could do without those parallels!

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    21 mins of not much. Hopefully the coming days reveal a bit more.

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    Ralph saying big mistakes were made
    Judge them on reacting to the mistakes next season

    Adam having a pop saying not a peep from les when he is the head of football at the club
    Saying the club bought into their own hype and pellegrino was clearly the wrong man

    Ralph brushes off the jibe about appointing pellegrino when he was just the same if not worse than the fella they just sacked

    In talks with Mark Hughes now and he is at the top of the list
    The speed is essential to get this done. We were on the side of this new window as it hurts clubs like us

    We must tap into the window early and have already started that process
    Hughes will be part of the transfer committee but he brings a far deeper knowledge base due to his experience of the league and he will be integral part of it with Les Reed with the board for the financial part of the process

    Was a scary first year for Gao family, they watched the games when in China and always in contact.
    We aim to get involved in the Asian market, along with under armour but that is a slower process. The family are important with that

    Adam pointing out unless you win football matches, all this branding talk is pointless...
    Ralph saying this is a tough league, and we are now more humbled to be in it, we have to recognise the importance of fans

    Will do fans forum and have to improve communication with fans
    We must reiterate that it starts at St Mary’s and we got distracted a year ago trying to branch out. We have to make it better at home and reconnect with the fans at home. That must be the priority

    Adam says Hughes has brought back a bit of aggression that Poch and Ronald brought
    Ralph admits that we lost our way and it started to be fun again under Hughes, even during the arsenal and Chelsea games
    The amount of draws we got was just unacceptable and we must play to win unlike what we have done recently

    Management team is in place, lots of conversations started after the Swansea game. We will try and create something and we have learned something after this season. As chairman I see no reason for change and we have to get the manager in and in quickly. Les and Ross are good people and we have to accept this season was not good enough and I will not be self congratulating about it

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    Reed has done far more good than harm for our club but the last year has been a disaster.

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    To sum up:

    We we're rubbish.

    Pellegrino was worse.

    Hughes will stay.

    We'll stick to doing things on the cheap.

    We'll keep all those behind the scenes who contributed to such a **** season and hope they have learned from it.

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    "I take responsibility for how, as a board, we thought Southampton really needed to consolidate to go to the next level. It wasn’t. An overambitious club stumbled on its own ambitious and needed a regroup and a reboot.”

    That's cleared that up then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    "I take responsibility for how, as a board, we thought Southampton really needed to consolidate to go to the next level. It wasn’t. An overambitious club stumbled on its own ambitious and needed a regroup and a reboot.”

    That's cleared that up then.
    In other words, we kept VVD against his will.

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    I thought that was actually a very good interview from RK. He has learnt a lot from when he first joined and he is a man that loves sport and competition.

    The total absence of Les Reed is telling, as were the comments from RK saying he is not happy with how this season went.

    I actually find myself trusting him with the club. I also think that Les will find his wings clipped within the club at least, if not publicly.

    I certainly hope I never see another Les Reed interview whilst he is still at the club.

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    Back to to buying and selling, which is fine if the buying also goes back to Mane, Wanyama, VVD, Tadic quality not Carillo, Clasie, Hoedt, Boufal.

    Overall not his worst interview though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    "I take responsibility for how, as a board, we thought Southampton really needed to consolidate to go to the next level. It wasn’t. An overambitious club stumbled on its own ambitious and needed a regroup and a reboot.”

    That's cleared that up then.
    In other words we will use the well publicised and controlled vvd situations to continue selling any and all top players and the niave / dumb fans will lap it up as "we don't want another vvd situation "

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    I may be in a minority but at least he admits mistakes were made and they intend to sort out their business quickly.
    Talk is cheap and their actions will determine if that is true as I think this could be an even busier transfer window than when Koeman took charge.
    We will need to get rid early although with all transfers the buyer has to play ball for this to happen as it sounded like we will only buy from what we sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Ralph saying big mistakes were made
    Judge them on reacting to the mistakes next season

    Adam having a pop saying not a peep from les when he is the head of football at the club
    Saying the club bought into their own hype and pellegrino was clearly the wrong man

    Ralph brushes off the jibe about appointing pellegrino when he was just the same if not worse than the fella they just sacked

    In talks with Mark Hughes now and he is at the top of the list
    The speed is essential to get this done. We were on the side of this new window as it hurts clubs like us

    We must tap into the window early and have already started that process
    Hughes will be part of the transfer committee but he brings a far deeper knowledge base due to his experience of the league and he will be integral part of it with Les Reed with the board for the financial part of the process

    Was a scary first year for Gao family, they watched the games when in China and always in contact.
    We aim to get involved in the Asian market, along with under armour but that is a slower process. The family are important with that

    Adam pointing out unless you win football matches, all this branding talk is pointless...
    Ralph saying this is a tough league, and we are now more humbled to be in it, we have to recognise the importance of fans

    Will do fans forum and have to improve communication with fans
    We must reiterate that it starts at St Mary’s and we got distracted a year ago trying to branch out. We have to make it better at home and reconnect with the fans at home. That must be the priority

    Adam says Hughes has brought back a bit of aggression that Poch and Ronald brought
    Ralph admits that we lost our way and it started to be fun again under Hughes, even during the arsenal and Chelsea games
    The amount of draws we got was just unacceptable and we must play to win unlike what we have done recently

    Management team is in place, lots of conversations started after the Swansea game. We will try and create something and we have learned something after this season. As chairman I see no reason for change and we have to get the manager in and in quickly. Les and Ross are good people and we have to accept this season was not good enough and I will not be self congratulating about it
    Cheers for the summary

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    Just me that canít help but feel impressed and optimistic when RK talks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by northam soul View Post
    I may be in a minority but at least he admits mistakes were made and they intend to sort out their business quickly.
    Talk is cheap and their actions will determine if that is true as I think this could be an even busier transfer window than when Koeman took charge.
    We will need to get rid early although with all transfers the buyer has to play ball for this to happen as it sounded like we will only buy from what we sell.
    He admits mistakes were made in a generic, boilerplate way - when forced to be specific, he gives the VVD example in the same way everything was about VVD when the s**t was hitting in the fan in January and it was blindingly obvious Pellegrino was the problem.

    Let's hope the club are a little more forensic and honest in their postmortem. Pinning things on VVD is the easiest trick in the book. Blaming the odd rotten apple shuts down the search for structural causes, especially when that rotten apple is now out of the club. To conflate VVD with overambition is a particularly tough pill to swallow when others might claim that it's our very lack of ambition -not overambition- that accounts for key holes in the squad (e.g. our CBs) and our failure to address them.
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    TBF I don`t think that Adam Blackmore gave him an easy ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SO16_Saint View Post
    Just me that can’t help but feel impressed and optimistic when RK talks?
    May not be just you but it’s single digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miserableoldgit View Post
    TBF I don`t think that Adam Blackmore gave him an easy ride...
    You can tell Blackmore sympathises with Krueger but is f**ked off with Les -and of course would rather be interviewing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Christ they didnt realise until January.....what were they in hibernation
    I almost punched my iPad when he said that. What planet were they on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Ralph saying big mistakes were made
    Judge them on reacting to the mistakes next season

    Adam having a pop saying not a peep from les when he is the head of football at the club
    Saying the club bought into their own hype and pellegrino was clearly the wrong man

    Ralph brushes off the jibe about appointing pellegrino when he was just the same if not worse than the fella they just sacked

    In talks with Mark Hughes now and he is at the top of the list
    The speed is essential to get this done. We were on the side of this new window as it hurts clubs like us

    We must tap into the window early and have already started that process
    Hughes will be part of the transfer committee but he brings a far deeper knowledge base due to his experience of the league and he will be integral part of it with Les Reed with the board for the financial part of the process

    Was a scary first year for Gao family, they watched the games when in China and always in contact.
    We aim to get involved in the Asian market, along with under armour but that is a slower process. The family are important with that

    Adam pointing out unless you win football matches, all this branding talk is pointless...
    Ralph saying this is a tough league, and we are now more humbled to be in it, we have to recognise the importance of fans

    Will do fans forum and have to improve communication with fans
    We must reiterate that it starts at St Maryís and we got distracted a year ago trying to branch out. We have to make it better at home and reconnect with the fans at home. That must be the priority

    Adam says Hughes has brought back a bit of aggression that Poch and Ronald brought
    Ralph admits that we lost our way and it started to be fun again under Hughes, even during the arsenal and Chelsea games
    The amount of draws we got was just unacceptable and we must play to win unlike what we have done recently

    Management team is in place, lots of conversations started after the Swansea game. We will try and create something and we have learned something after this season. As chairman I see no reason for change and we have to get the manager in and in quickly. Les and Ross are good people and we have to accept this season was not good enough and I will not be self congratulating about it
    Top work, thanks Batman.

    On the face of it, at least they acknowledge mistakes were made. Good to see they are looking to improve communication/connection with fans and also the need to act quickly, but don't enjoy this continued blaming of the VVD situation for our poor season.

    Obviously though it could just be a lot of hot air, let's wait and see what happens. Though Ralph asking us to judge them on reacting to their mistakes next season is asking for a lot of (un-earnt) trust, especially when they'll be asking me to part with the best of £700 in a few weeks time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    That's a good interview to be fair, can't argue with much of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miserableoldgit View Post
    TBF I don`t think that Adam Blackmore gave him an easy ride...
    I certainly liked his “club has been too clever for its own good” question concerning the appointment of Pellegrino.

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    Les is definitely going to take a back seat with Hughes as manager. I don’t think he’ll have much to do with the first team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sour Mash View Post
    That's a good interview to be fair, can't argue with much of that.
    Think it’s an honest interview and sounds like maybe lessons have been learnt however let’s wait and see

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    That was a good interview and I agree with his assessment in most areas. The most alarming admission was that they didn't feel the threat of relegation until "deep into January", and his comparison between Pellegrino and Poch/Koeman was a bit disingenuous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Back to to buying and selling, which is fine if the buying also goes back to Mane, Wanyama, VVD, Tadic quality not Carillo, Clasie, Hoedt, Boufal.

    Overall not his worst interview though.
    Jury's still out on Hoedt I think. He's given me heart attacks too many times this season but if the team is more confident next year then I can see him improving.
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    It wasn't his usual waffle and my ears did ***** up when he said that they failed the recognise the dangers of all the early season draws and how not playing to win, whilst sucking up the defeats that come with chasing wins, was a mistake, something I know I and others were saying at the time.

    To my mind it was Ralph's way of saying MP wasn't good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    After listening to the Blackmore interview and then reading this, I noticed a few interesting bits in the Telegraph article...

    Hughes announcement is likely by end of the week.

    City still interested in Bertrand, Barcelona interested in Cedric. They “still have two years remaining on their contracts and, should big offers come in, it is clear that Southampton will open their ears and not again want team spirit to be threatened.”

    Les remaining does not sound certain in the Telegraph piece. It’s “likely to depend on talks with the club’s new majority owners, the Chinese Gao family, about his ongoing control over the football operations.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    That was a good interview and I agree with his assessment in most areas. The most alarming admission was that they didn't feel the threat of relegation until "deep into January", and his comparison between Pellegrino and Poch/Koeman was a bit disingenuous.



    Jury's still out on Hoedt I think. He's given me heart attacks too many times this season but if the team is more confident next year then I can see him improving.
    He needs an experienced CB alongside him. I'd have him as first choice but not with Stephens.

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    Sound's like everyone is swallowing the blag again , Ralph was brought in for just that reason !

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    He talked a lot about learning but not much about change. Let’s wait and see what does change...I believe not much will change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    He needs an experienced CB alongside him. I'd have him as first choice but not with Stephens.
    Yep, agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Albert View Post
    City still interested in Bertrand, Barcelona interested in Cedric. They “still have two years remaining on their contracts and, should big offers come in, it is clear that Southampton will open their ears and not again want team spirit to be threatened.”
    To be fair it doesn't say that City and Barcelona are still interested, only that they have been.
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    Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice.
    Predicting 17th every season means you might eventually get it right, nothing to be pround about.
    What are you predicting for next season? 17th again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Admits that Dalek right in his prediction and should have taken more notice.
    Yes.....he used those exact words.....also said the new manager would be Hughes or Hoddle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    Predicting 17th every season means you might eventually get it right, nothing to be pround about.
    What are you predicting for next season? 17th again?
    Even a broken watch is right twice a day....

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