Mark Hughes

A perfect opportunity for the Russians to take revenge for Salisbury...

Kiev is in Ukraine. They don't like the Russians very much, so uncle Les is probably safe

Poch signs new 5 year deal at Spurs.

#NoHolidaysAtTottenham

Must be a London thing that managers can sign contracts before the end of May.

Oh, and in Stoke.

Les Reed is in Kiev

Wrong. Les Reed is in S****horpe

Not surprised we have no money with Reed handing out monster contracts to just about anyone. Forster/Long etc oh and of course himself last summer.

Not surprised we have no money with Reed handing out monster contracts to just about anyone. Forster/Long etc oh and of course himself last summer.

He doesn't give himself a contract!

Poch signs new 5 year deal at Spurs.

 

#NoHolidaysAtTottenham

That is disappointing news...

Poch signs new 5 year deal at Spurs.

 

#NoHolidaysAtTottenham

Now he needs to win something and with 5 years inked on the contract this is his moment.....

Surprised Poch signed on again. Does this mean Levy will now put the money down to fund a real push for Top 4, even winning it?

Based on Spurs unwillingness to break their pay structure, so not attracting and retaining players deemed to be the best around.

Does this mean Levy will now put the money down to fund a real push for Top 4

They have been in the top 4 for the last 3 seasons in a row.

Surprised Poch signed on again. Does this mean Levy will now put the money down to fund a real push for Top 4, even winning it?

Based on Spurs unwillingness to break their pay structure, so not attracting and retaining players deemed to be the best around.

I'm assuming big transfer extensions will be imminent with key players.

Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return.

I've no reason to doubt this.

Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club.

If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th.

In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS.

Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year.

If Hughes is playing hardball to get a better contract or agreements over transfer budgets, going on holiday in the middle of negotiations is certainly one way to assert yourself.

If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th.

 

In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS.

 

Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year.

Trouble is you spout the same drivel year on year , ever tried a new direction !

Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return.

 

I've no reason to doubt this.

 

Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club.

thanks for the info

Trouble is you spout the same drivel year on year , ever tried a new direction !

Yep, when the club try a new direction.

Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return.

 

I've no reason to doubt this.

 

Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club.

Thanks for the info. Paul Clement at Swansea springs to mind re your last point.

Your message is not calamitous enough to fit the present tone of this thread.

If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th.

 

In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS.

 

Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year.

Are you related to Trump? Maybe a son even less loved than Eric?

I'm assuming big transfer extensions will be imminent with key players.

I'm assuming they'll get more compensation when he goes to Real Madrid. It's the 'everybody happy' approach to modern footie

I wonder if this is to do with the consultation the government have announced on IR35 legislation in the private sector. I'd imagine this could have an impact if a manager (on a fixed contract) isn't on on PAYE and operates out of their own limited company for tax reasons. As its likely to come in during the April 2019/2020 tax year they could be structuring a deal that ensures Hughes gets the same take home he would of outside of IR35

I wonder if this is to do with the consultation the government have announced on IR35 legislation in the private sector. I'd imagine this could have an impact if a manager (on a fixed contract) isn't on on PAYE and operates out of their own limited company for tax reasons. As its likely to come in during the April 2019/2020 tax year they could be structuring a deal that ensures Hughes gets the same take home he would of outside of IR35

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I can’t help but think the Boardroom are about to continue the standard summer mistakes.

No confirmation of Hughes or not, player uncertainty, best players shortly applying to go, no investment, Boardroom discussion about how we can survive another year no problem without significant investment....

Regardless whether it’s not true one thing is undeniable. Week 2 of the end of the season mirrors the last 4 years of summer disasters....

Prove me wrong please.

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I can’t help but think the Boardroom are about to continue the standard summer mistakes.

 

No confirmation of Hughes or not, player uncertainty, best players shortly applying to go, no investment, Boardroom discussion about how we can survive another year no problem without significant investment....

 

Regardless whether it’s not true one thing is undeniable. Week 2 of the end of the season mirrors the last 4 years of summer disasters....

 

Prove me wrong please.

 

 

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Yes, it happens on a regular basis.

I was hoping our near relegation would shake the Board from its complacency and arrogance. Maybe not. Relegation might have to happen for a change in attitude.

Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return.

 

I've no reason to doubt this.

 

Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club.

Fulham go up, we get Mark Hughes. Fulham don't, we talk to Jokanovic? Or perhaps it really is holiday/lawyers/transfer demands

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Yep, when the club try a new direction.

Good answer.

If things don't change then it will be another season preparing for 17th.

 

In business terms the ideal scenario. Mimimum outlay, maximum return and feed the fans a load of BS.

 

Trouble is, the Dalek sees it every year.

You might need to see a Dr or an optician then. You've managed 1 correct prediction in 15 years. Your win % is less than MoPe.

You might need to see a Dr or an optician then. You've managed 1 correct prediction in 15 years. Your win % is less than MoPe.

Snig ger..

He doesn't give himself a contract!

Then who does?

And are you saying he didn't sign a new contract last summer under a new title?

Then who does?

And are you saying he didn't sign a new contract last summer under a new title?

He's not the grand master some are perciving him to be. although he has a large impact on football matters, his role is overseen by Ralph/KL etc. They are the people who would have offered him any new contract.

Fulham go up, we get Mark Hughes. Fulham don't, we talk to Jokanovic? Or perhaps it really is holiday/lawyers/transfer demands

 

 

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Jokanovic was my choice after Puel went. If Fulham don't come up then we'd me missing a great opportunity by not approaching him.

Jokanovic was my choice after Puel went. If Fulham don't come up then we'd me missing a great opportunity by not approaching him.

Usually I think you chat absolute sh_it but on this I agree with you.

God Saints are a shambles

Usually I think you chat absolute sh_it but on this I agree with you.

You might need to see a Dr or an optician then. You've managed 1 correct prediction in 15 years. Your win % is less than MoPe.

You're not comparing the same thing though are you?

Technically MoPe should achieve a 33% win percentage to hit bang average (i.e. law of averages would be a win, draw and a lost out of 3 games.)

Darlek is predicting league finish, so has a 5% chance of a correct prediction. By predicting it right once in 15 years he has outclassed average expectations and by default achieved a higher success rate than MoPe.

You're not comparing the same thing though are you?

 

Technically MoPe should achieve a 33% win percentage to hit bang average (i.e. law of averages would be a win, draw and a lost out of 3 games.)

 

Darlek is predicting league finish, so has a 5% chance of a correct prediction. By predicting it right once in 15 years he has outclassed average expectations and by default achieved a higher success rate than MoPe.

 

Ahh but you have to enter in a division factor that Dalek is a massive annoyingly repetitive bellend with a Hoddle fixation. That puts MoPe ahead by a whisker.

why is everyone so crazy over jokanovic? is his record much better then eddie howe or adkins ?

Message I've had is that nothing has changed insomuch as that the deal was agreed and Hughes flew off on his jollies whilst the lawyers did their thing and the deal gets signed on his return.

 

I've no reason to doubt this.

 

Truth be told though, he still wouldn't be my 1st choice as having met him a few times I think he's a c**k and the fact that managers who help a club survive rarely go on to be a success at that club.

On the other hand people I know who know MH tell me his coaching team, MB and EN, are well regarded.

why is everyone so crazy over jokanovic? is his record much better then eddie howe or adkins ?

It’s because he has a fancy name. Same love in for Marco Silva.

Sure he might be good but still a huge risk just like Puel and MoPe were.

Trouble is you spout the same drivel year on year , ever tried a new direction !

What, when he just got one right?

Remember a couple of years ago when several top class managers were suggested like Tuchel and Pellegrini?

Does this mean that Les is delaying a Hughes signing as he is waiting to pounce if Maurizio Sarri doesn't end up at Chelsea.

I know, I know :mcinnes: but I am just trying to lighten the mood on here somewhat.

Jokanovic would be exactly the same as Puel and Pellegrino. Continental knob jockey fixated on possession and the press. Same as Emery. Sick of it. Might have mentioned it before. I am hoping when Hughes gets back from leave its virtual pistols at dawn between him and Les and its Les they carry out feet first.

Jokanovic would be exactly the same as Puel and Pellegrino. Continental knob jockey fixated on possession and the press. Same as Emery. Sick of it. Might have mentioned it before. I am hoping when Hughes gets back from leave its virtual pistols at dawn between him and Les and its Les they carry out feet first.

What like Pep and Poch? lets hope Hughes is up for some good old fashioned 4-4-2 with a big man little man combo up top.

You're not comparing the same thing though are you?

 

Technically MoPe should achieve a 33% win percentage to hit bang average (i.e. law of averages would be a win, draw and a lost out of 3 games.)

 

Darlek is predicting league finish, so has a 5% chance of a correct prediction. By predicting it right once in 15 years he has outclassed average expectations and by default achieved a higher success rate than MoPe.

 

Actually, assuming we have an equal chance of finishing in each position and 20 teams in the league, he has only a 46% chance of being wrong every year for 15 years. So, it is just more likely than not to be right at least once.

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Jokanovic would be exactly the same as Puel and Pellegrino. Continental knob jockey fixated on possession and the press. Same as Emery. Sick of it. Might have mentioned it before. I am hoping when Hughes gets back from leave its virtual pistols at dawn between him and Les and its Les they carry out feet first.

Not sure his nationality is particularly relevant to anything other than your own prejudices.

For what it's worth we played a relatively high press under Adkins - that Northerner!

We played arguably our best football in the last decade under Poch who was very much focused on possession and pressing. What's more some of the best footballing sides around currently, Liverpool and City, play this way!

Jokanovic has had relative success already in England and elsewhere.

Jokanovic has had relative success already in England and elsewhere.

Agreed, but would you seriously be happy with a guy who's best performance in England is taking a team to 3rd in the 2nd division?

It doesn’t amaze me that Hughes has not been announced yet, but what does is that the club expects ST sales while no manager is in place and the squad is not confirmed. Can you imagine going to West Quay and at the doors there are guys ready to take £700 from you - “you can come in and look around, although ultimately we can’t guarantee we’ve got anything that you want...but have fun!”.

It doesn’t amaze me that Hughes has not been announced yet, but what does is that the club expects ST sales while no manager is in place and the squad is not confirmed. Can you imagine going to West Quay and at the doors there are guys ready to take £700 from you - “you can come in and look around, although ultimately we can’t guarantee we’ve got anything that you want...but have fun!”.

The same thing crossed my mind a couple of days ago. I think it shows the degree to which the people that run the club arent in touch with the fan base or real world come to think of it.

It doesn’t amaze me that Hughes has not been announced yet, but what does is that the club expects ST sales while no manager is in place and the squad is not confirmed. Can you imagine going to West Quay and at the doors there are guys ready to take £700 from you - “you can come in and look around, although ultimately we can’t guarantee we’ve got anything that you want...but have fun!”.

Well put. I for one wont be spending another penny at that club until Gao shows some sort of commitment to investing in players, the very minimum we need to do is invest all of the VVD money.