Tidbits from Hoedt

Just saw this on the Saints subreddit (

Hey lads, I'm a dutchman who is related to Wesley Hoedt, and I got to talk to him yesterday while he's still in the country, here's some notes I took:

 

99% sure he's staying, wants to atleast finish his contract

 

Prefers life in England over Italy

 

Happy with Hughes (probably staying)

 

Club wants to get rid of strikers (2 likely)

 

Club looking for new scoring players

 

Player got send home because of being 1 minute late to team breakfast when Hughes took over

 

Not sure about defenders joining, didn't know what defenders where leaving yet

 

Said mope wasn't very disciplined with players which made some players get lazy(he didn't mind players showing up to 30 mins late)

 

Players walked out on mope during

training multiple times which led to the sacking, the board wouldn't listen to the players until much later

 

Would've probably stayed at lazio if he knew he would be in a relegation battle

 

Would've gotten a 40% salary cut if saints got relegated, would probably still stay if relegated because of his contract

 

Salary gave him the biggest push to move from serie A to premier league

 

I think those were the most interesting things I noticed, maybe there's some useful info here.

Make of this what you will, I think for me the key parts are the 40% salary cut, the lack of discipline from MoPe (not surprising) & lack of foresight from the board in understanding the situation with MoPe & the players.

All sounds pretty plausible.

All sounds pretty plausible.

It is still a leap to take it as true. It isn't difficult to make up something plausible, internet football forums are full of plausible bull**** rumours.

Interesting read thanks.

Thanks for the info. Interesting.

Interesting stuff, would appear that while the players supposedly liked MP, they didn't actually respect him at all. Rocking up half an hour later for training is talking the **** - glad to see that's been stamped out now. Good to see that there are penalties in contracts for relegation as well, we came close. Interesting that he seems to know future plans for attacking players, but not defenders..!

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Interesting stuff, would appear that while the players supposedly liked MP, they didn't actually respect him at all. Rocking up half an hour later for training is talking the **** - glad to see that's been stamped out now. Good to see that there are penalties in contracts for relegation as well, we came close. Interesting that he seems to know future plans for attacking players, but not defenders..!

 

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Turkeys don’t make a habit of advocating Christmas Micky! Although I’m sure he’d recognise the blend of defenders isn’t right especially at CB. Good to hear we will be active in the forward department, especially some pace if possible.

Sounds like MH has reintroduced some of the discipline from RK, Poch and Nigel’s time - good. Recall stories about Mane getting dropped for similar lapses in timekeeping. He might not have liked Koeman but he still performed for him.

Relegation wage drops also slightly reassuring. Less reassuring is the communication aspect with players, let alone the fans. Explains how MP held on so long, clearly a disaster to us and the players but able to present a corporate face to a bunch of nodding dogs in the boardroom until the Newcastle debacle and MP’s admission he’d lost the dressing room which finally brought a decision several months overdue.

Thanks for the info. Interesting.

What is the Kenyan take on it all?

Nice way to sever ties with a family member. Hence why I don't think this is true.

What is the Kenyan take on it all?

No info here. Sorry. Other than Hughes info other day.

No info here. Sorry. Other than Hughes info other day.

Fair enough, looking forward to Hughes signing this week. Some good ITK there.

It is still a leap to take it as true. It isn't difficult to make up something plausible, internet football forums are full of plausible bull**** rumours.

I can't imagine anyone would be so lame as to make out they were from a different country just to spread rumours on a football forum.

I can't imagine anyone would be so lame as to make out they were from a different country just to spread rumours on a football forum.

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Good to hear we’re looking to shake things up up front.

Thanks for the info. Interesting.

How you doing Cabbage Face?

Good to hear we’re looking to shake things up up front.

By getting rid of two strikers allegedly. If it's Gabbi and Austin we'll be left with the clown's donkey and runs-his-socks-off-but-can't-score Long.

By getting rid of two strikers allegedly. If it's Gabbi and Austin we'll be left with the clown's donkey and runs-his-socks-off-but-can't-score Long.

My guess its Gabbi and Carillo

My guess its Gabbi and Carillo

My two pick is Austin and Long.

Simon peach reckons there is a very good chance Carrillo will be staying

Simon peach reckons there is a very good chance Carrillo will be staying

Hughes will be up for an Oscar if he gets the sack of ****e scoring goals.

If we lose Gabbi and Austin we are effectively starting the season with no forward line.

If we lose Gabbi and Austin we are effectively starting the season with no forward line.

Ever thought the blog maybe bollix but if not ever thought we may buy replacements

Ever thought the blog maybe bollix but if not ever thought we may buy replacements

Like we did with Carillo ??

By getting rid of two strikers allegedly. If it's Gabbi and Austin we'll be left with the clown's donkey and runs-his-socks-off-but-can't-score Long.

Yeah, because I'm sure getting rid of our only goal scorers is top of Hughes' list.

Less reassuring is the communication aspect with players, let alone the fans. Explains how MP held on so long, clearly a disaster to us and the players but able to present a corporate face to a bunch of nodding dogs in the boardroom until the Newcastle debacle and MP’s admission he’d lost the dressing room which finally brought a decision several months overdue.

Les and co were aware of what was going on, they just didn't want to give into the players again like they did with Puel because the fear is this sets up a culture where the players can pick and choose when to play for the manager. They were hoping the players would get their act together and get a run of results that would make us safe. When this didn't happen they had to act.

Simon peach reckons there is a very good chance Carrillo will be staying

Why leave??? He'll never get another contract like he has here!!

Simon peach reckons there is a very good chance Carrillo will be staying

Won't be too many buyers for him.

If we lose Gabbi and Austin we are effectively starting the season with no forward line.

Unless we bring in two more strikers, but I guess they haven't thought that far ahead.

Unless we bring in two more strikers, but I guess they haven't thought that far ahead.

Your sarcasm is lost on me. Reed did exactly that when he sold Fonte and VVD.

Won't be too many buyers for him.

Wherever Pellegrino ends up would be worth a phone call.

Your sarcasm is lost on me. Reed did exactly that when he sold Fonte and VVD.

Hoedt. Bednarek. May not be anywhere near as good, but they're physical replacements. 2 strikers going will be replaced by 2 strikers. They be better, they may be worse. Even if worse, they are actual replacements.

Hoedt. Bednarek. May not be anywhere near as good, but they're physical replacements. 2 strikers going will be replaced by 2 strikers. They be better, they may be worse. Even if worse, they are actual replacements.

Aha. Its numbers that count. Nothing else.

So lets only buy one to replace Austin and Gabbi then, since we got Carillo in January

If we take our recent history as an indicator, we will probably sell Austin and say that "we already have his replacement" in Carrillo.

Edit Just seen alpine's post, and we're making the same point/joke. Should I be worried?!

I don’t want to sound all pessimistic, but I have my doubts with what Hoedt has supposedly said. If the players would have walked out of training multiple times, I am sure some reliable ITKs on here would have posted something. This isn’t a boardroom meeting where only a select few people are. This is a training session with 20+ football players involved, plus all the staff at Staplewood that were there at the time. Someone certainly would have talked.

I do believe that the players we’re glad MoPe left as they didn’t seem to know what he wanted them to do on the pitch, and they were all over the place.

Simon peach reckons there is a very good chance Carrillo will be staying

Would be very surprised if the club were happy to write off £15m+ in just six months (which is probably the minimum we'd lose trying to shift him on now), regardless of whether it's the best thing for the squad.

I notice he refers to 'Mope'. Is that how's he referred to anywhere other than this board? Does it mean Wesley reads this board and referred to him that way? I don't really doubt the quoted info, I'm curious as to how Mope means anything to or Dutch friends.

I notice he refers to 'Mope'. Is that how's he referred to anywhere other than this board? Does it mean Wesley reads this board and referred to him that way? I don't really doubt the quoted info, I'm curious as to how Mope means anything to or Dutch friends.

assume that is paraphrasing by the source. Do people IRL even use 'mope'? thought it was like text speak, not actually used IRL. (like IRL, lol)

It's either true or fantastically good trolling (sit and learn niceandfriendly, Brett from Cameroon).

I'm inclined to believe it's true.

Gotta be Long and Carillo out bas dost in

assume that is paraphrasing by the source. Do people IRL even use 'mope'? thought it was like text speak, not actually used IRL. (like IRL, lol)

I meant 'mope' specifically referring to Pellegrino, which has become an accepted nickname for him on this forum, so it seems to me. That makes me curious that the Dutch guy on reddit should use this term. Reading too much in no doubt.

Aha. Its numbers that count. Nothing else.

 

So lets only buy one to replace Austin and Gabbi then, since we got Carillo in January

Carillo was Stig Johansen's replacement.

If we get rid of the clown's donkey (while keeping the other three) and bring in a quality goal-scoring replacement then we'll be in great shape up front.

But that's almost certainly not going to happen.

How you doing Cabbage Face?

This was also my theory, though I haven't asked.

How you doing Cabbage Face?

I think he might be a more obscure past poster who used to be something like "Atticus Finch " ?

I think he might be a more obscure past poster who used to be something like "Atticus Finch " ?

Oooh - I hope so. Me and that kid were tight as nuts.

Fair enough, looking forward to Hughes signing this week. Some good ITK there.

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I think he might be a more obscure past poster who used to be something like "Atticus Finch " ?

Deppo reinvented...