Burnley Match Thread

I Think we need to replace Redmond and Lemina with ?? (Ings, Gabbi, Mo). There just isn't enough control and attack going on.

Take 2 off and bring 3 on?

Saints defence worries me. Standing off opponents and allowing them to easily get balls into the box is never a good plan. Also giving away too many silly free kicks which just allows Burnley the chance to stick one in the area. Lucky to be at 0-0.

Making Burnley look like ****ing Brazil at times. The defence is all over the shop. There is practically no pressure on the ball in midfield when Burnley have it.

One or two nice moves at the other end by us but all in all new season, new players same old shyte so far..

Nervy start, settled in a bit in the last 20. Our attacking intent looks decent. Very nervous when the ball gets near our back line, particularly set pieces.

If we can come out positive and get a goal I think we’ll grow from there.

You learn nothing from preseason.

I thought we started poorly but grew into the game. Worried about the amount of balls that we don't win. Hoedt seems a liability and unable to win anything. But I'd like to see Yoshida and Vestergaard together.

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Only plus is Mc Carthy keeping it 0-0 and the subs havn't done much wrong either otherwise utter ****e

Going forward we do look like we can create something but I’d like to see Elyounoussi

Defence - awful. How much did we spend on Hoedt??!!

Promising signs as the half wore on. Vesterguard strong. Lemina dynamic. Redmond showing some thrilling touches. Armstrong an exciting add to the team. McCarthy huge. (last year we'd have been at least a goal down.) Think we need Hojbjerg or JWP on. Like others, I'd prefer 4 at the back and extra midfielder.

Would like to see Elyounoussi come on for Stephens so we can switch to 4atb. Not entirely sure why we need three CBs against Wood.

I Think we need to replace Redmond and Lemina with ?? (Ings, Gabbi, Mo). There just isn't enough control and attack going on.

Taking off two of our better players today! That's nuts imo!

We Should be taking Hoedt off & switching to a 4 but i doubt we will.

I Think we need to replace Redmond and Lemina with ?? (Ings, Gabbi, Mo). There just isn't enough control and attack going on.

Bringing on them wont add any sort of control to the game, need HOJ or JWP for that, some one to do the simple things and keep the midfield organised. ATM we just all over the place, Redmond does need to come off though.

Same old. Can change the personnel all we want but while managers are being this negative these are the performances we'll get, especially at home to average sides. It's so fcking frustrating to watch. Just playing into Burnley's hands.

 

3 managers in a row who just seem terrified to attack. Hoedt for Mo would really change this game. But it's not going to happen is it.

 

Best chance is just hoping Burnley keep missing, Vesterguard keeps playing well and we fluke a goal. But christ our approach is pathetic.

We beat Burnley 3-1 under Puel.

Don’t let the facts get in the way of your full of holes argument though

Lemina has been pretty good. Arguably our best player at passing the ball forward.

I'm not keen on the 5-4-1/3-4-3 formation, though. I'd prefer to see a diamond midfield or two strikers with an attacking midfielder behind them. I think either of the two would give Burnley more to worry about and allow us some control in the centre. I think we can afford to sacrifice a bit of wide cover when we have a 6'7" defender to nod the ball away.

I 100% guarantee that we will be a much better team when Hoedt isn't in the side.

Crystalize that comment, seriously. Only way to find that out though is for Hughes to get rid of the useless turd. Please, Sparky...

Oh and Lemina, as talented as he is, does not offer what we need in a midfielder. Isn't helped alongside a the cr4ppest version of Oriel Romeu I've seen. If only we had a Wanyama who'd let ML go ahead and play..

Negatives: McCarthy MOTM so far. Against Burnley. Not a great start.

Positives: Hughes is going to go mental in the dressing room and then we will improve 2nd half, Moi will come on and score by the 75th minute, followed by Ings sealing it late on. 2-0 Saints.

You're welcome.

Vestergard is already looking like a huge upgrade on the two blokes either side of him.

There used to be a time when oue defensive midfielders never let anyone get to the centre backs we used to press when the ball in midfield and all our centre backs were untroubled

Unfortunately it is now our forwars who are untroubled bring back Wayama and Spiderman Lemina and Romaeu just arent up to it!

A new high (or low) jack Stephens launching long throws into the box ...our transformation into stoke/ west brom is almost complete...

Thank god for McCarthy....we are a shambles at the back and this is against the likes of Burnley.

Pluses so far McCarthy, Armstrong, Uncle Fester and Lemina

I agree on a formation change. This just doesn't seem to work with the players we have.

That was best described as a Paulo Wanchope type performance

Arms and legs everywhere with people just running around aimlessly at times.

Like Paulo Wanchope I'm unsure how deliberate some of the rare decent moments were.

Need to be thankful for Burnleys lack of quality as another day we would be dead in this game already

Same old. Can change the personnel all we want but while managers are being this negative these are the performances we'll get, especially at home to average sides. It's so fcking frustrating to watch. Just playing into Burnley's hands.

 

3 managers in a row who just seem terrified to attack. Hoedt for Mo would really change this game. But it's not going to happen is it.

 

Best chance is just hoping Burnley keep missing, Vesterguard keeps playing well and we fluke a goal. But christ our approach is pathetic.

We had some good chances against Burnley last season at home. Their keeper kept them into it. We beat them 3-1 under Puel.

This performance has been garbage - who concedes 60% possession at home to Burnley? Their keeper has had nothing to do except a routine save from Lemina. We came into the game as the half went on but only because the bar was so low. Our buildup play remained frenzied and Burnley still had the better chances.

Bring Morgan back....

Going to have to start scoring a lot as this defence is utter garbage.

how are we going to do that? Redmond does not create all that much, Armstrong is a Davis type, busy but not someone that beats a man and Austin is a tap in merchant?

We had some good chances against Burnley last season at home. Their keeper kept them into it. We beat them 3-1 under Puel.

 

This performance has been garbage - who concedes 60% possession at home to Burnley? Their keeper has had nothing to do except a routine save from Lemina. We came into the game as the half went on but only because the bar was so low. Our buildup play remained frenzied and Burnley still had the better chances.

This.

We had some good chances against Burnley last season at home. Their keeper kept them into it. We beat them 3-1 under Puel.

 

This performance has been garbage - who concedes 60% possession at home to Burnley? Their keeper has had nothing to do except a routine save from Lemina. We came into the game as the half went on but only because the bar was so low. Our buildup play remained frenzied and Burnley still had the better chances.

who will be the first to call us all squinnying knee-jerk melts?

Thankfully hoedt and Stephens are up against absolute nobodies. Just imagine it next week up against Walcott and Richarlison

Like the summer never happened, or was wasted. Same old, same old. Vestergaard decent but can't carry Hoedt & Stephens. Armstrong promising. McCarthy the star man as usual.

Remember - our recruitment is the envy of the entire world and we probably have the best options of midfielders in the league.

Remember those comments. Remember them.

Thankfully hoedt and Stephens are up against absolute nobodies. Just imagine it next week up against Walcott and Richarlison

Walcott was poor yesterday and Richarlison looked to have a knee injury. Might be better than we think.

mhhhhh burnley already match fit from earlier games.

Not sure what we are doing but would go 4 at back and put on someone more forward thinking.

who will be the first to call us all squinnying knee-jerk melts?

Those who believe Hoedt is young, therefore guaranteed to improve.

Walcott was poor yesterday.

He won't be poor next week when he's 1 v 1 against hoedt...

Out with Hoedt and austin, in with Ely and Gabbi.

He won't be poor next week when he's 1 v 1 against hoedt...

Probably not no.

Hughes will rip into them and we will see a much better performance this half

Great defending from Vestergaad stopping a certain goal.

LOL

we are so bad.

jesus, hughes must change the shape, surely?

Look how friggin deep we are. This is ridiculous.

Only just seen the team and can’t believe the selection - just weird...

Ohhh. Got lucky there. Wake up Saints!

Constantly a free man in the box when they cross it. McCarthy keeping us in this game.

We are playing five at the back at home to Burnley for **** sake.

why the effin ****tin hell are we sat back holding on in our own half against Burnley.

This is fukkin disgraceful really

#believeINsaints #wemarchon

How are we still in this Burnley more chances in 2nd half 5 mins than us all match so far

McCarthy and Vestergaard are keeping us in this.

Two more chances, too easy for Burnley...

Teams that are utter **** as we were last season don't tend to turn it around in a summer. My expectations were so low coming into the season, but even I had hoped we'd snap at the heals of Burnley and at least look solid. We are nothing like that and it goes without saying that we give the ball away cheaply and offer little threat. A lot of improvement needed in the second half and beyond.

Getting overrun here. Hughes needs to sort this out.

This formation leaves far too much space between the back 3 and midfield but also the front 3 and midfield. It relies on people overlapping and running forward but then we’re exposed. Just not working for us and relinquishes control of the game

Cant see hughes lasting long if this is our future.