Hughes OUT

How on earth would we not have any money? Just how much are we paying the staff behind the scenes? Every other team (even those without a billionaire owner) have cash so why wouldn't we after seasons of massive transfer profits and all the TV money? I know we have given silly big contract extensions to players like Forster, Stephens and a host of the other young guns from a few years ago, but surely that doesnt mean we are worse off than clubs like Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Cardiff?

Have you seen the size of Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Cardiff wage bills compared with ours? Can't remember exactly but I think we're paying about four times as much. Remember Carrillo, Boufal, Forster and others on loan. Plus payoff for Pellegrino, of course.

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How on earth would we not have any money? Just how much are we paying the staff behind the scenes? Every other team (even those without a billionaire owner) have cash so why wouldn't we after seasons of massive transfer profits and all the TV money? I know we have given silly big contract extensions to players like Forster, Stephens and a host of the other young guns from a few years ago, but surely that doesnt mean we are worse off than clubs like Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Cardiff?

Our wage bill is big. Forster is on obscene money for a 3rd choice keeper, Stephens is on about 40-50k apparently and hes what, 4th choice? Carillo, Boufal, Clasie probably all on a chunk and dont even play in the same country. Even Harry Reed is on 30k a week ffs. We pay average players stupid money and most of them aren't even near the first 11.

also a bit weird that no press conference today which isn't the norm before a game

Yup, there'd normally be a manager's interview of some sorts on the OS or twitter page but there's nothing, just comments from Armstrong.

I think he's gone. Gut feeling.

Yup, there'd normally be a manager's interview of some sorts on the OS or twitter page but there's nothing, just comments from Armstrong.

 

I think he's gone. Gut feeling.

Christ I hope you're right

Yup, there'd normally be a manager's interview of some sorts on the OS or twitter page but there's nothing, just comments from Armstrong.

 

I think he's gone. Gut feeling.

There were comments on the BBC website from him this morning, which I assume were from a presser. Something along the lines that pressure from fans and journalists doesn't bother him.

We really deserve relegation

 

What a pathetic club we have become. All completely self inflicted

Got it in one. This lot are INCAPABLE of learning from previous mistakes.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-approach-former-qpr-swansea-manager-leicester-touch/

Apologies if already posted.

There were comments on the BBC website from him this morning, which I assume were from a presser. Something along the lines that pressure from fans and journalists doesn't bother him.

I think that was from the post-match interview on Saturday, because he was quoted saying similar in yesterday's newspaper reports.

Have you seen the size of Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Cardiff wage bills compared with ours? Can't remember exactly but I think we're paying about four times as much. Remember Carrillo, Boufal, Forster and others on loan. Plus payoff for Pellegrino, of course.

 

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plus 200m at 6pc to mcquarrie

right now you could tell me Arsne Wenger was in the running for the job and i wouldn't be excited......nothing about Saints excites me anymore, the whole club is thoroughly depressing!

Puel has given some quotes to LCFC website this morning on the importance of the cup and update on injuries.

Austin’s just liked a tweet from a QPR supporter about “abuse from Southampton fans” and saying he’d like to see him back at Loftus Road.

I've got the day off Friday and a full tank of fuel.

right now you could tell me Arsne Wenger was in the running for the job and i wouldn't be excited......nothing about Saints excites me anymore, the whole club is thoroughly depressing!

Same here. Used to wake up excited on a Saturday ready to watch my heroes. Now I find myself looking at my watch and thinking, "in a few hours I'm going to be thoroughly ****ed off".

Not having a press conference the day before a match is odd....he says hopefully

Southampton, 18º classificado da Premier League, estará interessado na contratação de Paulo Sousa para o comando técnico da equipa que não ganha um jogo para o campeonato desde 1 de setembro.

Whatever that means

Not having a press conference the day before a match is odd....he says hopefully

It is not unusual for there not to be a press conference before a League Cup game. We didn't before the previous round either.

Southampton, 18º classificado da Premier League, estará interessado na contratação de Paulo Sousa para o comando técnico da equipa que não ganha um jogo para o campeonato desde 1 de setembro.

 

Whatever that means

Google translate says: Southampton, ranked 18th in the Premier League, will be interested in hiring Paulo Sousa for the team's technical command who has not won a game for the league since Sept. 1.

Presumably it's Saints that haven't won since Sept 1st (vs Palace) and not Paulo Sousa.

****. We haven't won a league game in nearly 3 months.

****. We haven't won a league game in nearly 3 months.

when you’ve only won 5 out of the last 44 you are bound to have stats like that

Our wage bill is big. Forster is on obscene money for a 3rd choice keeper, Stephens is on about 40-50k apparently and hes what, 4th choice? Carillo, Boufal, Clasie probably all on a chunk and dont even play in the same country. Even Harry Reed is on 30k a week ffs. We pay average players stupid money and most of them aren't even near the first 11.

Remember when at the fans forum, Les answered a question that it was not our model to sign £25m players and pay them accordingly.

But give lots of very average players huge deals apparently is

So the spineless ******* predictably have failed to grasp the nettle once again so we are stuck with the incompetence Hughes for yet another week,

Urgghhhh Portuguese Puel

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7833107/southampton-mark-hughes-two-games-save-job-premier-league-drop-zone/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1543255275

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7833107/southampton-mark-hughes-two-games-save-job-premier-league-drop-zone/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1543255275

Hopefully they will be spending the week looking for his replacement to take over Sunday then !?

Or Sunderland? Or Wigan? Or Charlton? Or Blackpool?

Sunderland are doing ok. Loads of others in and around. Villa back

Depends on your mindset. This place is full of doom ridden depressives who couldn’t enjoy it when we were riding high. No doubt relegation would without doubt lead to a winding up order within a few years.

Never knew that Mark is his middle name.

Apparently his first name is Lesley. [emoji44][emoji3525]

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Sunderland are doing ok. Loads of others in and around. Villa back

Depends on your mindset. This place is full of doom ridden depressives who couldn’t enjoy it when we were riding high. No doubt relegation would without doubt lead to a winding up order within a few years.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7833107/southampton-mark-hughes-two-games-save-job-premier-league-drop-zone/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1543255275

So if we lose marginally in both games but play a *bit* better this will be viewed as turning things around, won't it? Fiddling while Rome burns.

Sunderland are doing ok. Loads of others in and around. Villa back

Depends on your mindset. This place is full of doom ridden depressives who couldn’t enjoy it when we were riding high. No doubt relegation would without doubt lead to a winding up order within a few years.

Look fd to Boscombe passing the buckets round. Maybe if we go down twice they will let their yoof come on loan to us?

Anyone who thinks we haven’t got the money to sack him is deluded. Do people really believe we want to sack him but can’t afford to? It’s pony. He’s not sacked because the board don’t want to sack him, yet.

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Keep the faith guys. 45 minutes until 9pm

Having wasted money on sacking managers is a reason to get this one right, not scrimp initially and just end up sacking someone else next season.

 

It'll either be relegation, or survival then another sacking early next season if we go for one of the merry-go-round crappy negative appointments like Allardyce or Moyes. It wastes players potential, and we've done that far too much already. Already with Hughes we had Boufal and Carrillo immediate cast aside and whatever you think of them, the people playing instead have been awful.

 

I've no interest in new signings. The squad needs the opposite. Someone to come in and actually get something out these players. To get Vesterguard settled in, to make Lemina the player he can be, to get Redmond, Elyounoissi and JWP actually creating for Ings, Gabbiadini, Gallagher and Obafemi, and to get Bertrand and Cedric back to what they were. A midfield three of Hojbjerg, Lemina and Armstrong is decent, it just needs time together.

 

Yes the squad isn't what is was under Koeman, but on form and with decent management it can still be mid-table, we're only talking 40-45 points for that it still involves losing a lot of games.

 

Get rid of one of the underperforming CBs, Forster, Davis, Long, Austin. Agree deals to sell Boufal and Carrillo early if necessary. There's plenty of money can be freed up in wages there. Even Romeu, who I like could be sold. We have options there and he's lost form. If he went and we got Reed back to provide the competition instead next season I'd be happy with it. The whole point was supposed to be using young players to provide that competition, not having a bloated overpaid squad. Yet all anyone seems to demand is endless signings. We could have just had Sims, Reed, Gallagher, Obafemi, Stephens all involved regular and never signed Boufal, Carrillo, Hoedt. We wouldn't be worse off on the pitch given how awful we've been.

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Having wasted money on sacking managers is a reason to get this one right, not scrimp initially and just end up sacking someone else next season.

 

It'll either be relegation, or survival then another sacking early next season if we go for one of the merry-go-round crappy negative appointments like Allardyce or Moyes. It wastes players potential, and we've done that far too much already. Already with Hughes we had Boufal and Carrillo immediate cast aside and whatever you think of them, the people playing instead have been awful.

 

I've no interest in new signings. The squad needs the opposite. Someone to come in and actually get something out these players. To get Vesterguard settled in, to make Lemina the player he can be, to get Redmond, Elyounoissi and JWP actually creating for Ings, Gabbiadini, Gallagher and Obafemi, and to get Bertrand and Cedric back to what they were. A midfield three of Hojbjerg, Lemina and Armstrong is decent, it just needs time together.

 

Yes the squad isn't what is was under Koeman, but on form and with decent management it can still be mid-table, we're only talking 40-45 points for that it still involves losing a lot of games.

 

Get rid of one of the underperforming CBs, Forster, Davis, Long, Austin. Agree deals to sell Boufal and Carrillo early if necessary. There's plenty of money can be freed up in wages there. Even Romeu, who I like could be sold. We have options there and he's lost form. If he went and we got Reed back to provide the competition instead next season I'd be happy with it. The whole point was supposed to be using young players to provide that competition, not having a bloated overpaid squad. Yet all anyone seems to demand is endless signings. We could have just had Sims, Reed, Gallagher, Obafemi, Stephens all involved regular and never signed Boufal, Carrillo, Hoedt. We wouldn't be worse off on the pitch given how awful we've been.

Great post!

We definitely have a bloated squad, and we absolutely need to get rid of players in January.

Vestegaard had some good stats that were put on here on signing, so looked a good recruit with experience in a strong league. Like many others it looks as if any natural ability has been coached out of him, and he' s left lacking in confidence.

the fact he was a donkey slow fourth or fifth choice CB for Denmark never inspired me. OK for championship, but at this level you need pace AND power.

Very interesting comments from Soares. Clearly there is a mentality/confidence issue, something has to change.

yes, it was personnel, during the summer, especially at the back, but we signed Vestagaard and he has been deemed not good enough by Hughes to mark a relatively stationary striker like Mitrovic.

We definitely have a bloated squad, and we absolutely need to get rid of players in January.

to who? We could not give Forster away this summer. No one will pay a fee for these players in January. Even shopping them out on loan we will have to pay a huge chunk of their wages, as we are with Carrilo and Boufal. It could take three years (if we somehow survive) to flush this much **** out of the system. This summer was the last chance, but at this moment in time we appear to have failed to address our issues at the back. Maybe in time...

Urgghhhh Portuguese Puel

So he's a decent, solid manager?

David Moyes at the Burnley Newcastle game. Scouting our rivals for when he takes over at St Mary's? (Obvs hope not)

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There was a piece somewhere earlier this evening suggesting hughes may already have been sacked, anyone else see it?

David Moyes at the Burnley Newcastle game. Scouting our rivals for when he takes over at St Mary's? (Obvs hope not)

 

 

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Bizarre if not loony that you would welcome Fat Sam but not Moyes... same dull style

How on earth come Hughes is still be here today...... madness!! We need a change

to who? We could not give Forster away this summer. No one will pay a fee for these players in January. Even shopping them out on loan we will have to pay a huge chunk of their wages, as we are with Carrilo and Boufal. It could take three years (if we somehow survive) to flush this much **** out of the system. This summer was the last chance, but at this moment in time we appear to have failed to address our issues at the back. Maybe in time...

It would help to have a coach who didn't want a massively bloated squad.

It would help to have a coach who didn't want a massively bloated squad.

no, get the wording right. Its deep roster not bloated squad !

It would help to have a coach who didn't want a massively bloated squad.

We got all those (albeit maybe not as good as we might have hoped). The problem was failing to offload anyone bar Tadic.

When we're successful, teams clamour to buy from us. It's a different story when we've scraped survival.

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Vestergaard was playing the Champions league the year before last, he was a regular at a good club in the Bundesliga, can't have turned into a terrible player over night, he's barely had a chance and only got that chance pretty much playing in a back 3 we spent all pre-season playing and then abandoned, he's been mismanaged by a bad manager and come into a team that is terribly low on confidence and all over the place defensively.

Vestergaard was playing the Champions league the year before last, he was a regular at a good club in the Bundesliga, can't have turned into a terrible player over night, he's barely had a chance and only got that chance pretty much playing in a back 3 we spent all pre-season playing and then abandoned, he's been mismanaged by a bad manager and come into a team that is terribly low on confidence and all over the place defensively.

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I hope you're right, but I worry about his lack of pace. Would be interesting to see him paired with anyone but Hoedt.

 

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The goals we generally concede are from a lack of marking and awareness rather than be done by pace.

Back on topic, why the **** is MH still here....

Has he been sacked yet?

Has he been sacked yet?

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