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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    That's exactly what it is, and what it always has been. He is the club's mouthpiece.
    And not a very accurate one then, as Guido Carillo is on loan at Leganes, not Levante as per his article.

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    Hughes will stay until the new man is in place. Makes sense for him to then review the coaching set up and decide what action to take then.

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    Interesting that they state Wilson is highly regarded and will take on a more prominent role

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    Having two Gao representatives on site makes me wonder a few things. Who are they? Do they have expertise in the area of PL club management? Will they be picking Ralphs replacement?

    Also, if they are present to represent Gao, what is the point of Ralph Krueger, who I thought was supposed to be the owners representative at the club?

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    In football memories and patience spans are all too short. In my opinion he did a very good job until May 2017, and no one can deny four top 8 consecutive finishes is strong evidence.

    Thereafter it has been a disaster but its possible to be both pleased he has gone but say thanks and well done for the good work in earlier years.

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    Gaston Ramirez
    Emmanuel Mayuka
    Vergard Forren
    Dani Osvaldo
    Florin Gardos
    Fraser Forster
    Juanmi
    Cuco Martina
    Jordy Clasie
    Nathan Redmond
    Sofiane Boufal
    Martin Caceres
    Jeremy Pied
    Jan Bednarek
    Guido Carrillo
    Wesley Hoedt
    Stuart Armstrong
    Jannik Vestergaard
    Mo Elyounoussi

    The Toby Alderweireld transfer saga.
    Fraser Forsters double contract extension.
    Calling Koemans bluff and pushing him out of the club.

    Les Reed's legacy. Take a bow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedArmy View Post
    Gaston Ramirez
    Emmanuel Mayuka
    Vergard Forren
    Dani Osvaldo
    Florin Gardos
    Fraser Forster
    Juanmi
    Cuco Martina
    Jordy Clasie
    Nathan Redmond
    Sofiane Boufal
    Martin Caceres
    Jeremy Pied
    Jan Bednarek
    Guido Carrillo
    Wesley Hoedt
    Stuart Armstrong
    Jannik Vestergaard
    Mo Elyounoussi

    The Toby Alderweireld transfer saga.
    Fraser Forsters double contract extension.
    Calling Koemans bluff and pushing him out of the club.

    Les Reed's legacy. Take a bow.
    7 player sales to Liverpool
    5 wins in 42
    No league wins over top 6 in 900+ days

    #legacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedArmy View Post
    Gaston Ramirez
    Emmanuel Mayuka
    Vergard Forren
    Dani Osvaldo
    Florin Gardos
    Fraser Forster
    Juanmi
    Cuco Martina
    Jordy Clasie
    Nathan Redmond
    Sofiane Boufal
    Martin Caceres
    Jeremy Pied
    Jan Bednarek
    Guido Carrillo
    Wesley Hoedt
    Stuart Armstrong
    Jannik Vestergaard
    Mo Elyounoussi

    The Toby Alderweireld transfer saga.
    Fraser Forsters double contract extension.
    Calling Koemans bluff and pushing him out of the club.

    Les Reed's legacy. Take a bow.
    In the same period.
    8th
    7th
    6th
    8th
    League cup final,
    2 European campaigns

    Ill take that every day of the week. Les Reed take a bow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    7 player sales to Liverpool
    5 wins in 42
    No league wins over top 6 in 900+ days

    #legacy
    Definitely worthy of that appreciation thread. Definitely.

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    Hughes next (get your bets on)


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    Hmmmm


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    What impact, in the immediate term, will this have on the team performances. Id wager none.

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    This had to be done and should have happened at the end of last season. But what worries me is that Krueger is presumably responsible for choosing a replacement

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    Luke Shaw liked the announcement from the club that Reed was gone on Twitter. mmmmm.

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    Best News of the Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's There View Post
    Get Wenger in as manager ..then appoint DoF.
    Don’t think Wenger would work at all. He was effectively failing at Arsenal given their resources. Look at the virtually immediate upturn after he went. Why would he be a success at a smaller club with far less money?
    As for Reed, glad he’s gone but can’t see a rapid improvement happening, the malaise is far too ingrained for the sacking of one man to be the answer. As others have said his successful years shouldn’t be dismissed but this season is all about surviving in spite of the damage he inflicted in the last 2. Also he’s an utter ***t for being regularly interviewed and taking or at least implying he should take credit for things going well when they were, then completely disappearing from view when they weren’t.

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    Blimey. I've only just found out.

    Great news. He's had enough chances.

    We march on.

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    Don't really know what has happened behind the scenes, but I would guess this gives Hughes more time. It seems that Reed has shouldered the blame for now (and rightfully so). Plus there were the on/off again rumors of friction between Hughes and Reed, so that could be part of this too.

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    You do realise the club getting rid of uncle Les is the sweetener for fans for the arrival of allardyce

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    Quote Originally Posted by lickierambert View Post
    Interesting that they state Wilson is highly regarded and will take on a more prominent role
    How can he possibly be highly regarded with the disastrous recruitment we've had isn't it his job to scout players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    In the same period.
    8th
    7th
    6th
    8th
    League cup final,
    2 European campaigns

    I’ll take that every day of the week. Les Reed take a bow.


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    Gotta agree, people have no respect.

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    In two minds about this.. still think he was the lesser of the evils and probably had his hands tied when Kat took over so not gonna lay all the player sales on his doorstep.
    We had a purple spell with recruitment when considering we spend a lot less on players then maybe clubs wasn't gonna last for ever so maybe we were a bit spoiled in that department ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenridge View Post
    The DE saying he hasn’t but maybe they’re not up-to-speed on developments?

    Blackmore also saying no further departures expected....today...
    Blackmore has liked a reply highlighting the ‘today’ in his his ‘no more departures today’ comment. Suggests more to follow.

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    How can the "head of recruitment" not lose his job too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfahaji View Post
    As per my message in the 'where do we go from here?' thread, why is Ralph "slinging his hook" so important to how we perform on the field? I don't see how he is involved in recruitment, academy or coaching issues.
    Because even my Grandsons know more about football than Ralph and they've been Saints far longer than he's been at the Club.Some of his press released have been farcical to say the least.

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    Im just glad something is being changed, I dont have a lot of faith in Gao finding a decent replacement but at least were shaking things up. Its not rocket science though, just a bunch of blokes kicking a ball around a field - hopefully this can be the start of an improvement.

    Les was around for one of the most successful periods in our history, but that just happened to coincide with the only time weve ever been owned by a billionaire. It appeard as soon as Kat started tightening the purse strings he floundered from one bad descision to another. Clubs our size cant afford to spend 20mill on a player and just send him out on loan, or have a 4th choice keeper on 100k a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Hats off to those who have called for this for so long. Needed to happen ever since Lambert was sold. Lying peice of **** who tried to take credit for everything and blame for nothing. Utterley dismantled the promotion heritage inside 3 transfer windows and destroyed the fans bond with the team.

    In my opinion we had a good chance of finishing top 4 if his tenure had not happened. We would certainly would not be in the mess we have been for the past 3 seasons under his predecessor.

    He has been more damaging for the football club than Lowe for me. And at least Lowe sold players to finance the club's infrastructure and give us a stadium and strong academy. This bell end did over some deluded ego and a pay packet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forester View Post
    In football memories and patience spans are all too short. In my opinion he did a very good job until May 2017, and no one can deny four top 8 consecutive finishes is strong evidence.

    Thereafter it has been a disaster but its possible to be both pleased he has gone but say thanks and well done for the good work in earlier years.
    Good post, agree with this.

    Time for another new chapter for our brilliant football club. The 'clear out' isn't finished yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenLeTiss View Post
    Luke Shaw liked the announcement from the club that Reed was gone on Twitter. mmmmm.
    Shaw was very unhappy when Reed sacked Dodd and Williams. In the end, Reed got rid of just about everyone who was doing a good job at the club, after taking credit for their work, and the emperor was left with no clothes.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-Williams.html

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    The first point at which I began to have doubts was when we sold Fonte in January last year and failed to bring in a replacement. I was all for selling him, at the right price, if we had someone decent signed up already. We didn’t and suddenly we were left plugging gaps with emergency solutions for half a season. From then on, things just kept getting sillier until the whole Forster/MoPe/Carrillo farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    Hats off to those who have called for this for so long. Needed to happen ever since Lambert was sold. Lying peice of **** who tried to take credit for everything and blame for nothing. Utterley dismantled the promotion heritage inside 3 transfer windows and destroyed the fans bond with the team.

    In my opinion we had a good chance of finishing top 4 if his tenure had not happened. We would certainly would not be in the mess we have been for the past 3 seasons under his predecessor.

    He has been more damaging for the football club than Lowe for me. And at least Lowe sold players to finance the club's infrastructure and give us a stadium and strong academy. This bell end did over some deluded ego and a pay packet.
    Are you actually being serious? wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    The first point at which I began to have doubts was when we sold Fonte in January last year and failed to bring in a replacement. I was all for selling him, at the right price, if we had someone decent signed up already. We didn’t and suddenly we were left plugging gaps with emergency solutions for half a season.
    Yep, we may well have won our second major trophy if it wasn’t for that.

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    Interesting.

    @AdamBlackmore: Had a good chat with Mark Hughes today, including having a bigger say in future signings (he had ‘limited input’ in summer signings) being his job to get team to start better pressure on him after Reed’s departure & bad start

    Hear it on Sports Hour tomoz at 6pm #saintsfc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Albert View Post
    Having two Gao representatives on site makes me wonder a few things. Who are they? Do they have expertise in the area of PL club management? Will they be picking Ralph’s replacement?

    Also, if they are present to represent Gao, what is the point of Ralph Krueger, who I thought was supposed to be the owner’s representative at the club?
    To be perfectly frank it makes not one jot of difference if Gao’s reps are knowledgable about running a Premier League club or not. None of this is rocket science.
    Ralph is now ‘experienced’ and is still astoundingly crap at it...
    Cortese has none of this experience and was really very good at it.
    Experience of running a successful business is more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker View Post
    Don't really know what has happened behind the scenes, but I would guess this gives Hughes more time. It seems that Reed has shouldered the blame for now (and rightfully so). Plus there were the on/off again rumors of friction between Hughes and Reed, so that could be part of this too.
    Look forward to Hughes rolling out his radical 2-3-2-3 formation on Saturday (2 that can't mark, 3 that can't tackle, 2 that can't create and 3 that can't score).

    Not sure we could beat Watford with a 5-5-5 formation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Interesting.
    LOL great timing for Hughes... he was apparently happy in the summer

    https://readsouthampton.com/2018/07/...siness-so-far/

    https://southamptonfc.com/news/2018-...premier-league

    TBF Les's sacking is probably a bit of a lucky break for Hughes he can shift the blame for our inept displays this season elsewhere and he will get some breathing space to try and turn things around while the club try to find a new "Les"

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    Well it's a start, but the mess Reed has left has to be sorted, good luck with that.

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    whilst I feel it’s the correct decision, I can’t help but feel it Out of the frying pan and into the fire. time will tell I guess.

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    Do we have a single player past or present wishing Leslie well?

    ......Deathly silence much like Les over the period of our decline

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    The right decision however there’s such a negative legacy I do wonder whether there’s enough time to turn it around in time. I hope the club REALLY think long and hard about what the replacement looks like. Whoever it is they will need a significant amount of gravitas and respect from within the footballing World. Otherwise it will be seen as the Mickey Mouse, cheapo appointment and one that just re-enforces the poor recruitment decisions we’ve seen.

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    I don't agree that this buys Hughes time. If we don't win on Saturday then the focus once again shifts to our very poor league campaign. It does take a little of the pressure off the players and coaches, at least in the short-term, which might benefit us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Do we have a single player past or present wishing Leslie well?

    ......Deathly silence much like Les over the period of our decline
    We have a lot of players hiding behind the image of him as some sort of ogre...Lemina in particular. Time will tell if thats true or not.


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    Really positive, been obvious for quite a while that the club has lost its mojo, and hopefully this is the first step in finding it again. Sets a tone throughout that we are not going to accept mediocrity and that there should be consequences for not meeting the levels that individuals need to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bit of a plonker View Post
    Really positive, been obvious for quite a while that the club has lost its mojo, and hopefully this is the first step in finding it again. Sets a tone throughout that we are not going to accept mediocrity and that there should be consequences for not meeting the levels that individuals need to attain.
    We have been happy to accept mediocrity for two years at least.

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    Only a statue will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    I don't agree that this buys Hughes time. If we don't win on Saturday then the focus once again shifts to our very poor league campaign. It does take a little of the pressure off the players and coaches, at least in the short-term, which might benefit us.
    IMO the only way Hughes should get more time is if the line up he uses on Saturday suddenly includes different players (as if to imply les was interfering) and we play a better brand of football. Unfortunately the line ups, tactics, etc will ask be the same.

    I also dread to think about the utter crap we would bring in if Hughes has his say. Geoff Cameron anyone??

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangelyBrown View Post
    IMO the only way Hughes should get more time is if the line up he uses on Saturday suddenly includes different players (as if to imply les was interfering) and we play a better brand of football. Unfortunately the line ups, tactics, etc will ask be the same.

    I also dread to think about the utter crap we would bring in if Hughes has his say. Geoff Cameron anyone??

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    I think if Les was interfering with team selection most of the signings he made in summer wouldn't be spending so much time on the bench !?

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    The owner is getting nervous about his investment should the club get relegated. Nothing else ,least of all the quality of the product or customer satisfaction matters.

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    Not before time.

    It is clear to anybody with a mud arse that Les's decisions at Manager and Recruitment level have been lamentable over the past 2 to 3 years.

    I think the persistence with Pell and then blowing the budget on a Monaco reserve who was promptly loaned out to a bottom 3 La Liga side and sitting on the bench there was the last straw. It was either start well this season or toast, and the rest we know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    I think if Les was interfering with team selection most of the signings he made in summer wouldn't be spending so much time on the bench !?
    That's kind of my point. Hughes should be just as vulnerable as he was before Reed left. His only excuse could possibly be "Les told me to", otherwise he's just hopelessly out of his depth.

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