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    Quote Originally Posted by nta786 View Post
    https://southamptonfc.com/news/2017-...or-southampton

    Vice Chairman (Football) Les Reed said: “Wesley is one of the most promising young defenders in Europe and represents a significant addition to our squad. Having procured a Champions League finalist from one Italian club we have now added an Italian Supercoppa winner from another.

    “We believe he has all the qualities to play a big part in our future, and we have worked hard to bring him to Southampton, with a number of other high-profile clubs interested in him.

    "Finding a top quality central defender is difficult in the current environment and now we have six internationals in this position, both young and experienced.

    "Finding a naturally left-footed player is even more difficult. We have been tracking central defenders on our target list for the past 12 months and Wesley has always been at the top of that list, so it was important to act when the opportunity came.”

    Wesley has proven his talent through his performances for Lazio, as well as the Netherlands, and we believe he can develop even further here at Southampton, alongside his international teammate Virgil van Dijk, as well as the likes of Jack Stephens, Maya Yoshida, Jan Bednarek and Florin Gardos.

    “With Wesley joining those players, we believe we have the right amount of quality, depth and flexibility at centre-back to help us achieve our aims this season.”
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    hope that answered your question!
    My favourite line... "as well as the likes of Jack Stephens, Maya Yoshida, Jan Bednarek and Florin Gardos."

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    Hoedt latest:

    @AdamBlackmore: #saintsfc manager Ralph Hasenhüttl no-nonsense today: Like Gabbiadini, Wesley Hoedt doesn’t suit his style and should maybe look for another club
    No plans to include Fraser Forster in first team - could play for the U23s so other clubs can look at him. Refreshingly candid

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    God, we have a manager who has seen him for what he is! Absolute garbage.

    Phew.

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    Intrigued to know what style hoedt does suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Intrigued to know what style hoedt does suit.
    Subbuteo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Intrigued to know what style hoedt does suit.
    Being a c*ck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Intrigued to know what style hoedt does suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Intrigued to know what style hoedt does suit.
    He's no better or worse than a dozen or more CBs we've had over the years. Brilliant on their day; a nightmare on others. We got spoilt with VVD - players like that come around only every 10 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Reece View Post
    Being a c*ck
    I can only think it’s his attitude that is the problem. He must really have got up Ralph’s nose not to be given a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenridge View Post
    I can only think it’s his attitude that is the problem. He must really have got up Ralph’s nose not to be given a chance.
    In record time it seems. Probably the quickest Hoedt has moved anywhere in his time with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    In record time it seems. Probably the quickest Hoedt has moved anywhere in his time with us.
    But, how on earth are we going to get rid of him? No other club would pay a fee for him, would they? I guess the best hope is that we can persuade another club to take him on loan if we agree to pay part of his wages.

    It really makes you wonder why we spent so much money in transfer fees and wages on players like Hoedt, Elyounoussi, Carrillo, Boufal and Vestergaard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    But, how on earth are we going to get rid of him? No other club would pay a fee for him, would they? I guess the best hope is that we can persuade another club to take him on loan if we agree to pay part of his wages.

    It really makes you wonder why we spent so much money in transfer fees and wages on players like Hoedt, Elyounoussi, Carrillo, Boufal and Vestergaard.
    blackbox got infected with virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    It really makes you wonder why we spent so much money in transfer fees and wages on players like Hoedt, Elyounoussi, Carrillo, Boufal and Vestergaard.
    We paid a lot for Boufal because he has superb technique and off the back of an excellent season when he scored for fun.

    We paid a lot for Elyounoussi because he had Champion's League experience and a decent record albeit in a poor domestic league. Someone obviously thought he might be the next Mane.

    We paid a lot for Carrillo because our manager wanted him, we were desperate for a striker, and there is little value in the Jan window.

    We paid a lot for Hoedt because he had experience playing for a good team in Italy although he wasn't a nailed on starter he did play a few games.

    We paid a lot for Vestergaard due to decent finishes in the Bundesleague and Champions League experience, along with our central defenders being awful at heading the ball.

    All of these transfers were risks. Some players don't adapt well to English football and none of the above have fully managed to.

    I still think Boufal has the ability to do it, even Carrillo might be OK in a limited sort of way, he just cost us far too much for a player with poor technical ability and no pace.

    Elyounoussi I have no idea about, really. He actually created a decent number of chances in his first couple of games, but since then he's been getting progressively worse. Maybe he's completely lost his confidence?

    If anything Hoedt seems over-confident and lacking badly in concentration. I think he'll never really succeed in the Premier League. Vestergaard has got a little bit better but he's always going to be slow off the mark and have the turning circle of an aircraft carrier. He might be OK with the right defenders along side him, but he has some definite physical limitations to overcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useful Idiot View Post
    We paid a lot for Boufal because he has superb technique and off the back of an excellent season when he scored for fun.

    We paid a lot for Elyounoussi because he had Champion's League experience and a decent record albeit in a poor domestic league. Someone obviously thought he might be the next Mane.

    We paid a lot for Carrillo because our manager wanted him, we were desperate for a striker, and there is little value in the Jan window.

    We paid a lot for Hoedt because he had experience playing for a good team in Italy although he wasn't a nailed on starter he did play a few games.

    We paid a lot for Vestergaard due to decent finishes in the Bundesleague and Champions League experience, along with our central defenders being awful at heading the ball.

    All of these transfers were risks. Some players don't adapt well to English football and none of the above have fully managed to.

    I still think Boufal has the ability to do it, even Carrillo might be OK in a limited sort of way, he just cost us far too much for a player with poor technical ability and no pace.

    Elyounoussi I have no idea about, really. He actually created a decent number of chances in his first couple of games, but since then he's been getting progressively worse. Maybe he's completely lost his confidence?

    If anything Hoedt seems over-confident and lacking badly in concentration. I think he'll never really succeed in the Premier League. Vestergaard has got a little bit better but he's always going to be slow off the mark and have the turning circle of an aircraft carrier. He might be OK with the right defenders along side him, but he has some definite physical limitations to overcome.
    All fair points, and also reasons why at the time I was encouraged because we were signing the "right type of players". The caveat of course is that most of these descriptions are based on what's on paper - eg club, goals scored, position in table, height etc. You would expect a Premier League scouting department to actually watch the players in action and make a good call on their quality and suitability for the league.

    The right type of player but not actually the right player smacks of leaning too heavily on names churned out by the infamous black box. Either that or Scouts who don't know what they should be looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    But, how on earth are we going to get rid of him? No other club would pay a fee for him, would they? I guess the best hope is that we can persuade another club to take him on loan if we agree to pay part of his wages.

    It really makes you wonder why we spent so much money in transfer fees and wages on players like Hoedt, Elyounoussi, Carrillo, Boufal and Vestergaard.
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