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    This defence is shambolic, attack not much better.

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    Going down. Simple

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    If one good thing comes from this, it'll be that Hassenhuttl realises that half the squad isn't good enough.

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    Can see us doing a Sunderland.

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    we look like we know we are going down worrying times..... no fight....... players bottling it

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    Hasselhof has his work cut out for him, especially on D. If Cardiff were even an average squad they would have had 3 goals.

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    ????????????????????????????????????????? What can you say

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefoggy View Post
    Going down. Simple
    Basically. New manager or no new manager we've managed to become the worst team in the league.

    Question though. If Hughes was still in charge would we have lost that game? He probably wouldn't have started Vestergard

    I guess long term we are better off though?
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    Lost when we should't have, 2nd half we defended way better than the first but at the end of the day they weren't going to miss all the chances presented to them on a plate. We didnt create nothing. Lots of work for the new man. Also that light show after FT, as said many times on this forum. Mess.

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    Predictably predicted

    Said before.... Will take more than a decent manager to break this Les Reed momentum

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    18m wasted on a defender that has (excuse the FM reference) zero concentration, anticipation and pace.

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    The Les Reed legacy.

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    Our defence it utterly shocking. None of the centre-backs are good enough. Not one of them.

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    Dreadful. No positives to take out of that - we are where we deserve to be with a squad full of below average quality players. I doubt Ralph can do much with this ****.

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    I think that it's far too early to write Vestergaard off. He should be given the chance to make glaring mistakes that lead to another 6-7 key goals before anyone can judge if he is good or not.

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    Pep could nothing with this shower of sh*t!

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    Did we test their goaly, even once?

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    Vestergaard and targett should never wear that shirt again. No chance we are staying up unless we blow about 100m in January. Worst squad in years. Two pens not given didn’t help but we don’t earn the luck.

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    The new manager is going to have to be a genius to keep this lot up.

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    I never want to see Vestegaard or Targett in a Saints shirt again. Bother of them were L2 standard at best today.

    I don't think I have ever watched a Saints team make so many individual errors in one game. If we had been playing Man City today they would have got a rugby score.

    Might have been a different story if the ref hadn't been such a useless pr!ck and given us at least one of the two blatant penalties, but that would have flattered us. We were woeful in defence and ineffective in attack. Don't recall their keeper making a single save.

    I didn't expect us to look immediately better under the new manager, but I also didn't expect us to put in our worst performance of the season by a country mile either.

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    The only positive is that we have not been cut adrift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BotleySaint View Post
    Basically. New manager or no new manager we've managed to become the worst team in the league.

    Question though. If Hughes was still in charge would we have lost that game? He probably wouldn't have started Vestergard
    I don’t think it would’ve mattered. That could just as easily have been hoedt or Yoshi.
    Positive - full week of training for Ralph to start trying to sort this **** show out

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    No grit. Theyíre gonna get massive cross country runs this week


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    This is the legacy of Les Reed. What a ****!!!

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    We are terrible. This back four and this squad will take us down no matter who the manager is.

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    Trying to move the ball quicker meant losing it more often, with only one days practice.

    It was inevitable with our defence that a pub player would score.

    On a positive note, Lemina will flourish in this system, but we need Cedric and Bertrand, or replacements to make it work, the stand ins are not up to it.

    Thanks also to Neil Moss for giving us **** all all afternoon. He would have given both penalty shouts if it was Liverpool or Arsenal.

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    Two Championship sides. One with bottle and resilience, the other with 11 disinterested useless ****s. Vestergaard, Targett, Valery, Romeu, Austin all woeful.

    We’ll need 5/6 players in January to have even a sniff of staying up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    If one good thing comes from this, it'll be that Hassenhuttl realises that half the squad isn't good enough.
    That's been clear for a long time to all but the permanently deluded hasn't it? Good teams need good players. If I was MH I'd be having a good old chuckle right now.

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    The game wasn't fair, Cardiff had 15 players on the pitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    This is the legacy of Les Reed. What a ****!!!
    Absolutely.

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    RaHa to RaKr ; "If we have to sell to buy 3 new centre-backs, what am I expected to do with £3.50 ?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    This defence is shambolic, attack not much better.
    Exactly. That defensive display was possibly the worst I have ever seen in this league. Cardiff should have had more. Abysmal. But then look at the other end - **** all created all match. Against CARDIFF. Our problems are all over the side, the players we bought in the summer to improve us have made us worse. Vestergaard is WORSE than Hoedt. Let that sink in for a minute.
    We have 3 of the top 6 to play before we can buy anyone to do anything about this utterly embarrassing shambles, and I wouldn't back us to get anything in the other game against Huddersfield.

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    Seriously. Get a defensive coach. Let the keeper coaches go. When's Obafaemi or Ings back?

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    We are unbelievably ****e. Vestergard criminal negligence in defence...but only one of an incredible number of punishable mistakes made by just about everyone. Lemina showed his class. Austin terrible as usual. Defence totally shambolic. Only positive for me is Hasenhutl will have seen just how devoid we are of both defence and attack.

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    Still in touch with teams above us so that's a plus. I dare say all the people who are saying we're going down, we're going to do a Sunderland blah blah bore blah are the same ones that spouted the exact same lines last season ...? Yes, we're a bit cr*p at the moment but so are half a dozen other teams, plenty of time to put things right.

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    Brainless. It's pelting down with rain and windy and Vestergaard thinks now's the time for a flick backpass.
    Need a clearout in the summer regardless of where we are playing.


    We were slightly unlucky only in the sense that we should have had at least one penalty from the Armstrong/Redmond challenges.

    Hopefully Obafemi or Gallagher will be fit soon as gabbi looked lost and Austin just isn't mobile.

    The positives were that Bednarek played well(barring one error trying to control a ball). Stephens came on & did ok, even out ofhis favourite position.

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    I know people don't like Hoedt, but I think with the right coaching he'll be alright for us.

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    I don't think I've ever seen such a catalogue of defensive errors. Virtually all their chances came from one of our defenders screwing up a simple pass. Unforgivable stuff. The goal was the icing on the cake - and people wonder why Hoedt gets a game...!

    Going forward we play ok but we don't have any pace whatsoever, so it's so easy for them to defend against - they just crowd us and we forced to play ridiculously intricate football which inevitably leads to losing the ball.

    Will be amazing if we survive. We have a handful of decent players going forward, but we don't have a good enough range of options and our defenders are shambolic. That wasn't the system today and it wasn't zonal marking. It was a bunch a sh1t footballers somehow getting a game in the Premier League.

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    Feels more desperate than it prob is. Yes, way too many errors, only part excused by the conditions. Vestergaard a huge worry. I feel like we screwed up in bringing him in. Despite his height, he's not that dominant in the air at the back, and he's DEFINITELY prone to clumsy touches and mis-passes. Job no 1 for H will be to figure out the right back pairing. My money on Bednarek and Yoshida. Yoshida, despite v occasional mistakes, is a really talented footballer with a heart of gold. Stephens also strong. V shd be sold in my opinion.

    But what was good was seeing the combo of Lemina, Hoj and Romeu with Armstrong and Redmond ahead of them. that is a dynamic, winning midfield. I think the one thing we truly badly need in January is a deadly striker. That's been our achilles heel last two years since loss of Mane. If we get one in, the other pieces are there for a killer team.

    Even this game we'd have won with reasonable refereeing.

    I vote to remain a believer. But wow, it's been a long time since football came with celebration.

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    We were getting to grips with the game in the 2nd half. Ok so we weren't creating much (as usual) but Saints were looking comfortable. But who wasn't waiting for the massive screw up that would hand a goal to Cardiff? So damn predictable. Also predictable that we wouldn't get an equaliser.

    Ralph certainly has his work cut out.

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    Well done Les Reed on this absolute ****e of an excuse for a defence!

    ******

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfahaji View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen such a catalogue of defensive errors. Virtually all their chances came from one of our defenders screwing up a simple pass. Unforgivable stuff. The goal was the icing on the cake - and people wonder why Hoedt gets a game...!

    Going forward we play ok but we don't have any pace whatsoever, so it's so easy for them to defend against - they just crowd us and we forced to play ridiculously intricate football which inevitably leads to losing the ball.

    Will be amazing if we survive. We have a handful of decent players going forward, but we don't have a good enough range of options and our defenders are shambolic. That wasn't the system today and it wasn't zonal marking. It was a bunch a sh1t footballers somehow getting a game in the Premier League.
    We need pace to play the new managerís preferred system. We were lacking it before; itís an even bigger need now.

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    Duplicate post.
    Last edited by Instant Classic; 08-12-2018 at 04:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Seriously. Get a defensive coach. Let the keeper coaches go. When's Obafaemi or Ings back?
    All the comments about defensive coaching are hilarious. The players are sh1te.
    No coaching will help them. They aren’t good enough. It really is that simple.

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    Thank God that the board got rid of Hughes early enough for Hasenhuttl to have enough time to turn things around. Now he knows exactly what he needs to do. The defence needs urgent attention. Targett and Vestergaard should not feature again in a hurry. At least when Bertrand is back and Cedric plays, the full backs are generally better. But there were careless mistakes all over the pitch today. The mistake by Vestergaard was unforgivable. I didn't think Austin did badly, although he didn't get the service. But for the mistake that gifted them the goal, this match was headed to a nil-nil borefest. As it is, we have passed up yet another opportunity to take points away from a direct rival of ours, as we have done all season so far. The only consolation is that we have the chance to play them all again this season, and we really do need to win all of those matches to redress the balance. The other plus is that apart from Hasenhuttl having the chance to improve the players we have tactically and mentally, he will be able to address our shortcomings in the January transfer window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    We need pace to play the new manager’s preferred system. We were lacking it before; it’s an even bigger need now.
    Long will be an essential component to the success of this team. I think he'll find his form again, the system will suit him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewYorkSaint View Post
    Yoshida, despite v occasional mistakes, is a really talented footballer with a heart of gold.
    Sweet Mother of God.

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    we should not be 5 points behind Cardiff, yet we are.
    awful, awful and awful once more.

    honestly if I had foresight then I wouldn't mind going down and getting promoted again the way Newcastle did in 2016-17...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    I know people don't like Hoedt, but I think with the right coaching he'll be alright for us.
    Training with national express coach as a driver?

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    That was pretty grim.

    Good to see the manager involved so much, but that performance was more Hasselhoff than Huttl.

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