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    BIG game this one.

    They were on a 4 match run prior to losing to Watford (which is impressive given their injuries).

    A win would be amazing with City/Chelsea coming up after.

    Anderson the player to watch for them.

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    Yep, suddenly though it is a game we believe we can win.

    I am sure Ralph will motivate the players, whilst keeping things in perspective.


    A win would be amazing and it is possible.

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    Would take a point

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    Same team, hopefully same result.

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    With Hoj out suspended, I would do a straight swap with Lemina. Apart from that same team please Ralph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Reece View Post
    With Hoj out suspended, I would do a straight swap with Lemina. Apart from that same team please Ralph.
    Ah, he's a big loss for us.

    Looking at West Ham, Balbuena hurt his knee today. Unsure how bad it was.

    Arnautovic / Wilshere / Fredericks / Yarmolenko / Sanchez / Reid / Lanzini should all be out.

    Perez & Carroll will be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Reece View Post
    With Hoj out suspended, I would do a straight swap with Lemina. Apart from that same team please Ralph.
    Personally I think guys like Long and Austin were held out today in anticipation of playing Thursday instead. I think this is why Obi came on instead. So I'd expect a line of Long, Austin, Redmond, then Lemina and Romeu (unless he wants to rest Romeu for someone else). We may see Cedric back for this in place of one of the wings too. The back is a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker View Post
    Personally I think guys like Long and Austin were held out today in anticipation of playing Thursday instead. I think this is why Obi came on instead. So I'd expect a line of Long, Austin, Redmond, then Lemina and Romeu (unless he wants to rest Romeu for someone else). We may see Cedric back for this in place of one of the wings too. The back is a guess.
    Loves a goal against them.

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    Got a feeling this will be a thrilling draw.


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    Looks like it will sell out, not a huge amount of ticketsleft

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    We need to go for them. They're an erratic side but when I've seen them win it's by going ahead and staying ahead. I think if you get the first goal they're a different side.

    Press them to death. I'd go Redmond/Ings/Long up front and run at them. Lemina/Romeu/Armstrong and a back 4 for this one.

    But I think he'll keep it largely the same. Wonder which youth prospect will be on the bench? It'll be Slattery at some point. So good to see it happening rather than signing expensive squad players, wasting money, blocking the pathway and losing identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker View Post
    Personally I think guys like Long and Austin were held out today in anticipation of playing Thursday instead. I think this is why Obi came on instead. So I'd expect a line of Long, Austin, Redmond, then Lemina and Romeu (unless he wants to rest Romeu for someone else). We may see Cedric back for this in place of one of the wings too. The back is a guess.
    Would be astonished (and disappointed) if Long and Austin start vs West Ham.

    Ings came off after 65mins today and there is a 5 day gap to that game.

    Rest players for City, West Ham should be targetted for a win.

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    Should be a good game this. Only worry is defensively we still look a little shaky and West Ham have goals in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    Should be a good game this. Only worry is defensively we still look a little shaky and West Ham have goals in them.
    Agreed. Understandably a lot of jubilation around but doesn't disguise the fact that there is a lot of work to do on the squad and the team. Hopefully Ralph has a short time crisis plan, ie this is what we do to stay in the Premier League, then a long term strategy to make Saints a solid Premier league outfit.

    What is good to see is the extinguishing of arrogance and complacency that I warned of 3 years ago.

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    According to KUMB they think we are now like Brazil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    According to KUMB they think we are now like Brazil
    Run by an extreme right dictator?

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    Well up for this one cant wait. funny a couple of wins and the games can't come quick enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Agreed. Understandably a lot of jubilation around but doesn't disguise the fact that there is a lot of work to do on the squad and the team. Hopefully Ralph has a short time crisis plan, ie this is what we do to stay in the Premier League, then a long term strategy to make Saints a solid Premier league outfit.

    What is good to see is the extinguishing of arrogance and complacency that I warned of 3 years ago.
    What’s also good to see is an upbeat Dalek- Merry Christmas Sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Reece View Post
    With Hoj out suspended, I would do a straight swap with Lemina. Apart from that same team please Ralph.
    I must have watched a different game to most.
    Didn't anyone notice how Armstrong was just jogging about, completely out of the game? He is the new Prowse.
    Armstrong didn't bother to chase or mark anyone when not on possession. When we had the ball he hardly bothered to get involved.
    Rabbit hutch replaced him on 70 mins. Should have done that on 45 mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry12 View Post
    I must have watched a different game to most.
    Didn't anyone notice how Armstrong was just jogging about, completely out of the game? He is the new Prowse.
    Armstrong didn't bother to chase or mark anyone when not on possession. When we had the ball he hardly bothered to get involved.
    Rabbit hutch replaced him on 70 mins. Should have done that on 45 mins.
    Perhaps not as scathing as you but I too have my doubts about Armstrong - thought he was lightweight and something of a passenger yesterday. I doubt he will make the grade now Ralph is on board. He strikes me as a poor man's Steven Davis when Davo was in his prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry12 View Post
    I must have watched a different game to most.
    Didn't anyone notice how Armstrong was just jogging about, completely out of the game? He is the new Prowse.
    Armstrong didn't bother to chase or mark anyone when not on possession. When we had the ball he hardly bothered to get involved.
    Rabbit hutch replaced him on 70 mins. Should have done that on 45 mins.
    TBF you normally watch a different game to everyone else

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    Would like to see Cedric start, Valery has done well but Felipe Anderson is their best attacker, especially if Arnautovic is out so I think Cedrics experience against him and pace will be important.

    Plus unless they start Carroll, there is no big attacker to pull onto him,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    Would like to see Cedric start, Valery has done well but Felipe Anderson is their best attacker, especially if Arnautovic is out so I think Cedrics experience against him and pace will be important.

    Plus unless they start Carroll, there is no big attacker to pull onto him,.
    They might just start Carroll. Hernandez went off injured against Watford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austsaint View Post
    Perhaps not as scathing as you but I too have my doubts about Armstrong - thought he was lightweight and something of a passenger yesterday. I doubt he will make the grade now Ralph is on board. He strikes me as a poor man's Steven Davis when Davo was in his prime.
    In his defence he was getting fouled a great deal. Suspect will be on bench for the Hammers


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    They might just start Carroll. Hernandez went off injured against Watford.
    Remember Hernandez made a double last year though we won 3-2 finally, thanks to Austin's penalty in the stoppage time. Any news on Hernandez injury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry12 View Post
    I must have watched a different game to most.
    Didn't anyone notice how Armstrong was just jogging about, completely out of the game? He is the new Prowse.
    Armstrong didn't bother to chase or mark anyone when not on possession. When we had the ball he hardly bothered to get involved.
    Rabbit hutch replaced him on 70 mins. Should have done that on 45 mins.
    Odd that I swear I saw him chasing a lost cause in first half which defender had to pass back to keeper, who then kicked it to Romeu at start of our move for second goal !

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKsaint View Post
    Remember Hernandez made a double last year though we won 3-2 finally, thanks to Austin's penalty in the stoppage time. Any news on Hernandez injury?
    I read it was a hamstring tweak.

    Pellegrini said that they will assess him & Balbuena before the game. (I didn't see the highlights so didn't see how serious it looked).

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    Mate reckons they should have Arnautovic back for Thursday...

    Would go same team I think.

    This website seems to think Hojbjerg and Romeu are both one yellow away...it may not have been updated but does say that the next game is West Ham...

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-...ne/suspensions

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    -----------------McCarthy----------------
    ---Bednarek--Vestergaard---Yoshida---
    Valery----------Romeu-----------Targett
    --------Hojbjerg-----Armstrong---------
    -----------Redmond--Ings---------------

    Difficult to make a case for anyone else just walking into the team after 2 wins. Will certainly be interesting when Cedric and Bertrand return and back fully fit.

    There's clearly a few that are either injured, on their way or just haven't impressed Ralph since he's come in...

    Bertrand, Cedric, Hoedt, JWP, Davis, Elyounoussi, Gabbiadini...

    Probably only about £500K a week we're paying that lot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Mate reckons they should have Arnautovic back for Thursday...

    Would go same team I think.

    This website seems to think Hojbjerg and Romeu are both one yellow away...it may not have been updated but does say that the next game is West Ham...

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-...ne/suspensions

    -----------------McCarthy----------------
    ---Bednarek--Vestergaard---Yoshida---
    Valery----------Romeu-----------Targett
    --------Hojbjerg-----Armstrong---------
    -----------Redmond--Ings---------------

    Difficult to make a case for anyone else just walking into the team after 2 wins. Will certainly be interesting when Cedric and Bertrand return and back fully fit.

    There's clearly a few that are either injured, on their way or just haven't impressed Ralph since he's come in...

    Bertrand, Cedric, Hoedt, JWP, Davis, Elyounoussi, Gabbiadini...

    Probably only about £500K a week we're paying that lot...
    That would be typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Mate reckons they should have Arnautovic back for Thursday...

    Would go same team I think.

    This website seems to think Hojbjerg and Romeu are both one yellow away...it may not have been updated but does say that the next game is West Ham...

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-...ne/suspensions


    -----------------McCarthy----------------
    ---Bednarek--Vestergaard---Yoshida---
    Valery----------Romeu-----------Targett
    --------Hojbjerg-----Armstrong---------
    -----------Redmond--Ings---------------

    Difficult to make a case for anyone else just walking into the team after 2 wins. Will certainly be interesting when Cedric and Bertrand return and back fully fit.

    There's clearly a few that are either injured, on their way or just haven't impressed Ralph since he's come in...

    Bertrand, Cedric, Hoedt, JWP, Davis, Elyounoussi, Gabbiadini...

    Probably only about £500K a week we're paying that lot...


    The club website confirms Hojbjerg will miss the game.

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    Ever since our last spell in the Chumps League I’ve disliked this lot. Some of them seemed to think they were ball playing pilgrims. Now they’d be happy to scrape something from the game any old how. Hope we help relegate them personally.
    Lol

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    Unchanged except Lemina in for suspended PEH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Mate reckons they should have Arnautovic back for Thursday...

    Would go same team I think.

    This website seems to think Hojbjerg and Romeu are both one yellow away...it may not have been updated but does say that the next game is West Ham...

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-...ne/suspensions

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    -----------------McCarthy----------------
    ---Bednarek--Vestergaard---Yoshida---
    Valery----------Romeu-----------Targett
    --------Hojbjerg-----Armstrong---------
    -----------Redmond--Ings---------------

    Difficult to make a case for anyone else just walking into the team after 2 wins. Will certainly be interesting when Cedric and Bertrand return and back fully fit.

    There's clearly a few that are either injured, on their way or just haven't impressed Ralph since he's come in...

    Bertrand, Cedric, Hoedt, JWP, Davis, Elyounoussi, Gabbiadini...

    Probably only about £500K a week we're paying that lot...
    Hojbjerg is definitely out so Iíd go this team with Lemina in for Hojbjerg.

    It will be interesting to see who fills the extra space in the squad- another youngster maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Hojbjerg is definitely out so I’d go this team with Lemina in for Hojbjerg.

    It will be interesting to see who fills the extra space in the squad- another youngster maybe?
    Slattery probably the most likely option from the academy.

    Davis or JWP if not.

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    Very few tickets left for game ticket exchange open now

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Ah, he's a big loss for us.

    Looking at West Ham, Balbuena hurt his knee today. Unsure how bad it was.

    Arnautovic / Wilshere / Fredericks / Yarmolenko / Sanchez / Reid / Lanzini should all be out.

    Perez & Carroll will be back.
    Reports that Balbuena and Hernandez both out injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Ah, he's a big loss for us.

    Looking at West Ham, Balbuena hurt his knee today. Unsure how bad it was.

    Arnautovic / Wilshere / Fredericks / Yarmolenko / Sanchez / Reid / Lanzini should all be out.

    Perez & Carroll will be back.
    Bugger. He'll score his obligatory goal or two against us, and then get injured for another 3 months.

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    I believe the club will be holding a minutes silence for the victims of the Nakatomi Plaza attack, which was 30 years ago tonight.

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    Hasenhuttl angels sing, glory to Danny Ings.

    So up for this game. Oh to have excitement back for going to a game!

    2-1 Saints win. 3 on the bounce!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    BIG game this one.

    They were on a 4 match run prior to losing to Watford (which is impressive given their injuries).

    A win would be amazing with City/Chelsea coming up after.

    Anderson the player to watch for them.
    I thought they were pretty good against Watford

    So I am expecting a hard game and a draw would be fine with me

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    Would be interested to see how gabbi would do in one of the positions like Armstrong is playing but probably not gonna see him again..would probably have the movement link up play and capable of decent long rage shooting though

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    Lawrenson thinks we'll win this - we're doomed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylander View Post
    Lawrenson thinks we'll win this - we're doomed!
    WTF?? Recon he's been on the eggnog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylander View Post
    Lawrenson thinks we'll win this - we're doomed!
    Been pretty spot on about Liverpool being undefeated this season....

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    Obafemi not in the training photos. Cedric back. Johnson and Ramsey still working with the first team squad.

    No Bertrand still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    Obafemi not in the training photos. Cedric back. Johnson and Ramsey still working with the first team squad.
    Cedric was also in the full training photos before both the Arsenal and Huddersfield games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    I thought they were pretty good against Watford

    So I am expecting a hard game and a draw would be fine with me
    I only just watched the highlights of them vs Watford & you're right. They were still very good.

    Funny how West Ham have done so well with all their injuries, but it weirdly seems to have helped them to go back to players like Snodgrass & Antonio whereas they previously looked to be close to being shipped out.

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    Put 10 on Snodgrass scoring. Hate him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saints foreva View Post
    Been pretty spot on about Liverpool being undefeated this season....
    Mark Lawrence always predicts a win or draw for Liverpool, even when they are in a slump, and he also seems to hate West Ham for some reason. He predicts based on his general opinion of the clubs, and doesnít account for form or situation.

    Thatís why heís such a nob end

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