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    The same player aside from fake tan and a tattoo sleeve?

    Nice left foot, good cross but dreadful otherwise. Will never take anyone on and get taken to the cleaners by anyone with a little bit of pace.

    Fox wasn't PL quality and neither is Targett who I can barely remember having a really good game at this level.

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    Fair comparison.

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    Targett was hideous tonight.

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    Both rubbish. So correct


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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    Targett was hideous tonight.
    He was. Sadly though, was STILL our best fullback!

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    Thought he was pretty good going forward but was poor defensively !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    The same player aside from fake tan and a tattoo sleeve?

    Nice left foot, good cross but dreadful otherwise. Will never take anyone on and get taken to the cleaners by anyone with a little bit of pace.

    Fox wasn't PL quality and neither is Targett who I can barely remember having a really good game at this level.
    I've thought that for a long time. Wing-back is incredibly demanding as it combines the duties of the old positions of left back and left winger, which used to require 2 players. In order to regularly cover the whole length of the pitch, a wing-back needs incredible pace and energy. Neither Fox or Targett ever had it but they'd both have made adequate, not great, left wingers and in an earlier era might have been OK. Neither of them was ever capable of performing the defensive duties well at the top level, when they are up against pacy forwards. Ryan Bertrand has got a lot of unfair stick on here as with our weak defence he has often had to do the defensive work of two men, whereas, in contrast, Targett needs an extra defender to cover for him.

    I'd be tempted to put in a bid for Wendell in January: a player Ralph would be familiar with from the Bundesliga.

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    Danny Fox was the worst left back i've seen at the club. Targett has his weaknesses but hes better than that clown

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    Danny Fox was the worst left back i've seen at the club. Targett has his weaknesses but hes better than that clown
    Lee Todd made Danny Fox look like Roberto Carlos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katalinic View Post
    Lee Todd made Danny Fox look like Roberto Carlos.
    And Olivier Bernard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    Danny Fox was the worst left back i've seen at the club. Targett has his weaknesses but hes better than that clown

    Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years.

    The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing.

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    Targett must be one of the least intelligent people I've ever met, it's no wonder his decision making is abysmal.

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    Thanks Danny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born In The 80s View Post
    Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years.

    The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing.
    This.

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    Fox was a **** poor defender in the championship he was lucky enough to be in a team that attacked most of the time and scored a lot of goals which covered up his weakness got found out in the PL though having said that he was better than Targett whose only redeeming feature is the occasional nice cross we really need to upgrade our fullback/wingback options to get the best out of Ralph's style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born In The 80s View Post
    Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years.

    The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing.
    Great servants? Hardly, just got paid a lot while we were riding high and as soon as he realised he couldnít cut it, left.

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    These threads are such fun

    I wonder what sort of bloke Dusic is as all he likes to do is put threads up that have a pop at our players... Odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    These threads are such fun

    I wonder what sort of bloke Dusic is as all he likes to do is put threads up that have a pop at our players... Odd
    I wonder why people constantly stick up for our average players. That is odd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    I wonder why people constantly stick up for our average players. That is odd.


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    I stick up for you despite you being below average

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    Matt Targett is starting to annoy the hell out of me how sh1te he is
    He is weak, doesn't win any headers, can't run at players, is like a statue and as soon as he gets the ball has to get rid of it straight away
    The argument I hear is...but yeh he puts in the odd good cross
    That doesn't make him a good player or the fact he contributes nothing else ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born In The 80s View Post
    Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years.

    The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing.
    Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management.
    Always makes me laugh how people can get so worked up over what is a subjective opinion. Let's face it, neither is/was very good so there's not much difference between them - it's not like we're comparing MLT and Paul Moody. Personally think Danny Fox was slightly better but that might be just because it'll annoy the hell out of you and leave you seething for the rest of the day....

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management.
    Soppy old fcker getting worked up about a player from years ago. Have a mince pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_TOAST View Post
    Matt Targett is starting to annoy the hell out of me how sh1te he is
    He is weak, doesn't win any headers, can't run at players, is like a statue and as soon as he gets the ball has to get rid of it straight away
    The argument I hear is...but yeh he puts in the odd good cross
    That doesn't make him a good player or the fact he contributes nothing else ok
    He’s a left-footed JWP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management.
    Nice to see a reasoned, well thought out reflection on the merits of a player. Too often posts on here exaggerate players strengths or weaknesses, and allow personal animosity to cloud their judgement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Born In The 80s View Post
    Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years.

    The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing.
    Fans are entitled to valued opinions and are not ‘embarrassing’
    The post is entirely accurate too! The team did very well despite Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born In The 80s View Post
    Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years.

    The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing.
    Yep, mental.

    Danny Fox was found wanting in the Prem and was about half-decent in the Championship - not for his defensive contribution but for his assists - which, I believe, was in the double figures.

    Good little player in the npc but like Hammond, Sharp, Hooiveld et all who all contributed massively to our promotion - came up short in the Prem... and moved on. Thanks for contributions, thanks for the memories.

    No need to make ridiculous comments about them - especially when considering Lee Todd played for us, who was genuinely abysmal.

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    It's a team sport, a team that got us back into the prem should all be shown respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    It's a team sport, a team that got us back into the prem should all be shown respect.
    Stupid comment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    Stupid comment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    These threads are such fun

    I wonder what sort of bloke Dusic is as all he likes to do is put threads up that have a pop at our players... Odd
    Whats your opinion of Targett and ehat he offers to the team?

    Also, presume you have missed my Redmond thread:

    https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthre...d#.XCZtNmmnydM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katalinic View Post
    Lee Todd made Danny Fox look like Roberto Carlos.
    Lee Todd is the worst player that i've ever seen play for Saints, and i've seen a lot of sh*t players play for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab Lungs View Post
    Yep, mental.

    Danny Fox was found wanting in the Prem and was about half-decent in the Championship - not for his defensive contribution but for his assists - which, I believe, was in the double figures.

    Good little player in the npc but like Hammond, Sharp, Hooiveld et all who all contributed massively to our promotion - came up short in the Prem... and moved on. Thanks for contributions, thanks for the memories.

    No need to make ridiculous comments about them - especially when considering Lee Todd played for us, who was genuinely abysmal.
    13 assists I think it was. He was a competent championship player and perfect for our system in the championship which relied on full backs being able to put quality balls into the area. Frazer Richardson also got double figures for assists that season. Incredible that a key player in one of our most memorable seasons is labelled one of the worst defenders of all time. Then again one of them is someone who once accused me of being racist because I didnít agree with him that Tanadari lee wouldnít ever be a premier league star, I donít think heís ever recovered from that embarrassing moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    13 assists I think it was. He was a competent championship player and perfect for our system in the championship which relied on full backs being able to put quality balls into the area. Frazer Richardson also got double figures for assists that season. Incredible that a key player in one of our most memorable seasons is labelled one of the worst defenders of all time. Then again one of them is someone who once accused me of being racist because I didn’t agree with him that Tanadari lee wouldn’t ever be a premier league star, I don’t think he’s ever recovered from that embarrassing moment.
    Assists have **** all to do with his ability as a defender as a full back he would have made a good winger. He was a truly terrible defender slow, frequently lost his man, **** weak in the tackle and often out of position. Yes he could put a good ball into the box but his assists had more to do with the attacking quality of our strikers and attacking midfield. Frazer Richardson on the other hand was able to defend as well as a deliver a decent cross and an all round better full back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Assists have **** all to do with his ability as a defender as a full back he would have made a good winger. He was a truly terrible defender slow, frequently lost his man, **** weak in the tackle and often out of position. Yes he could put a good ball into the box but his assists had more to do with the attacking quality of our strikers and attacking midfield. Frazer Richardson on the other hand was able to defend as well as a deliver a decent cross and an all round better full back.

    Fox was fine in Championship, Like Targett would be. No one is saying he is Marcelo. Calm down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    Fox was fine in Championship, Like Targett would be. No one is saying he is Marcelo. Calm down.
    neither of them are as good as Hoedt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    neither of them are as good as Hoedt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    Lee Todd is the worst player that i've ever seen play for Saints, and i've seen a lot of sh*t players play for us.
    I’ve seen Anthony Pulis play in a pre-season friendly.

    End of argument.

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