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    Quite relieved to see the responses to this melt.

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    No surprises there. Some players who were given a chance have underlined why they shouldn’t be given any more.

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    A bit of rationality wouldn't go amiss. RH has been in post for weeks and has to undo and rebuild the shambles the club has been for the last 3-4 years of p*ss-poor managerial appointments, ineptitude beyond belief in the transfer market and almost total disconnect between club and fanbase. This will take time, investment and support. As fans, we can provide one, allow for one and hope for the third. Personally, I feel 100% more optimistic now than in a long time that we have the right manager to start the rebuild process. We had six points and six goals in two games, misfired against WHU and were playing one of the best teams in Europe today with the same squad as before, plus 4 players from our Academy starting. At 1-1, if the ref had the bottle to give the penalty, it could've been a different game. The mess we're in is not going to be undone overnight.

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    While PEH was reckless with that tackle, the fact that Fernandinho got straight up to have a go shows a couple of things. One, he was not injured and two, the bloke is a hypocrite as of course he has never done that to anyone has he? Don't dish it out if you can't take it back. Think we all know that if he had made that tackle, it would not have been a red.

    Similar to the Ward Prowse penalty incident which was far more of a penalty than any of the ones Salah got on Boxing Day and also yesterday (plus the one Lovren conned the ref into giving too). The premier league is fixed and hugely in favour of the big clubs with the officials scared of the likes of Guardiola and Klopp. The Sterling one was a penalty too but if that had been 1-1, that would have been given too. The most positive thing is that our goal difference did not take a hammering, something City may look back and regret at the end of the season when they strolled around the last twenty minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Iím just saying that we basically threw the game, which is certainly how they will see it. They were in second gear, which was all they needed.
    But Liverpool were in neutral yesterday, still won by a shedload though. Guardiola will have to solve his left back problem sharpish or the Scousers will take them apart down that side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    Penalty or not for us?
    I don’t think so, just because Salah’s was incorrectly given IMO doesn’t make ours a pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadhall Saint View Post
    Yes - both hands and a push.
    I agree, would have made a difference for a while at least and they would have not got the 2 before halftime

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    Ralph has an incredibly tough job ahead. I disagree with people who say our squad is too good to go down. Burnley just beat a team that comprehensively outplayed us in the week. Staying up this season will be a major, major achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    I genuinely don't think any manager could do amy differently with these players.
    Agreed. For me the only hope is that we can offload a number of players in January and get some good replacements in, but that is a big ask.

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    Well beaten but I'm not overly disappointed.

    I was much more down after WHU because it was always incredibly unlikely we'd get points against City & Chelsea.

    Also don't think it's possible to get a full hustling & bustling performance with so little recovery time.

    Valery - Ramsay - Stephens - Bednarek - Targett is a brave defence from Ralph!

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    Lemina. **** attitude. Maybe he wants off to PSG. If any truth I'd let him go quick smart. Disgraceful half arsed performance.

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    It's not ralphs fault that les reed has been recruiting dross for years. We're stuck with shyt players until further notice. Once ralph gets his own players in to fit the system he wants to play then we are going to be bang average. He needs at least 3 windows to sort this shower out so don't blame him for today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    I genuinely don't think any manager could do amy differently with these players.
    The last 2 could do worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Valery - Ramsay - Stephens - Bednarek - Targett is a brave defence from Ralph!
    And yet JWP was our best defender..

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    I think we played like a team believing we had no chance and the performance showed it. Oloyonoussi was pathetic

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    Don’t think he’s wrong much.

    If this was a Hughes performance the reaction to this post would be different. We were embarrassingly atrocious.

    At least RH has bombed out hoedt and he took lemina off, who couldn’t have given two ****s today - like my dad had been saying for ages.

    That was like a training match for city... irrespective of how good they are, being bossed so convincingly on your own turf is sacrilege. We’re about two components away from being the next Villa or Sunderland.

    This manager obviously has something about him so needs to be backed, get him the players he wants, ship out the passengers and put some Fukkin pride back into this football club.

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    Positive - Ramsey wasn't hopeless.
    Negative - almost everyone else was
    Hoj is the biggest downer on a hugely downer weekend for us. At least he had desire though, even if it was ill judged. Ref wasn't great for us, true, but we're still so loose and floppy, all over the park. Need a big, quality CB who can organise us, and a strong CF who can take the pressure off Ings. Bleak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iansums View Post
    Agreed. For me the only hope is that we can offload a number of players in January and get some good replacements in, but that is a big ask.
    We need a rb, cb and some pace. We may be able to last without a striker if ings stays fit. I was hoping for cahill but it seems his wages will be too high.

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    The performance was better than the earlier defeats against City, Spurs and Liverpool put together

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    We basically conceded that match at half time. Idiocy from Hojbjerg. You're not as good as you think you are, pal.

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    Huge overreaction. Ralph has shown plenty of positives - and has won 2 out of 4 games. Plenty has changed in his short time here, and when he move out of this busy Christmas period and he has time to work with the squad, I think we will improve even further. Surviving is the aim for this season, we're not in a position to look beyond that. The biggest concern for me is a trend that we've seen under Hughes and has now continued - we seems to always concede after going ahead. I'm not sure if it's a mentality issue, or a tactical one. But it happened against West Ham, happened again today and happened countless times under the previous manager. Is that where we are lacking leaders?

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    Today again shows how unfit we are. The fitness levels at this club are terrible and that's going to take time to turn around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint lard View Post
    In every department.
    On and off the pitch.
    The players are a disgrace.....this manager,no better than Puel,Pellegrino and Hughes.
    If you thought the tied had turned with the new manager appointment....you were wrong.
    So many players need to be shipped out.
    Donít make excuses that we played City....we showed nothing but bad positioning,poor decision making,**** distribution.
    Lemina...
    Moi...
    Hoedt...
    Should be first out the door.
    The list goes on.
    We need every point,if a player canít dig deep and give his all then **** off.
    ******** to the busy Xmas period...they are pampered enough to recover.
    Not even the fans could raise themselves.
    Itís like a sodding morgue in st Marys.
    Big business needs to be done in January....will it get backed by the owners?
    Sorry,but Iím passionate and fecking angry.


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    You are without doubt, and have been for many years, the biggest knee jerk reaction clown on this entire forum. Get a grip

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    A game we thought we would lose, that we deserved to lose, but a game where, with slightly better players, we could have made it a lot tougher for them.

    The positives:

    - We could have lost by more but fought hard

    - Bednarek was good

    - Watching David Silva

    The negatives:

    - Ramsay shouldn't have played, he is nowhere near PL ready. Barely played a smooth short pass.

    - Elyounoussi shocking - will never make it in the PL.

    - Austin - a waste of time

    - Targett - poor as usual

    - JWP - can't run

    The Abysmal:

    - Hojbjerg's utter stupidity. Jesus wept.

    The Manager:

    - Needs a settled defence

    - Needs Bertrand

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    When you are down where we are we need a little luck sometimes. Today we had none. Why wasn't Kompany sent off for his atrocious tackle? JWP would have been granted the pen had he been playing for anyone else. Deflected goal yet again. McCarthy should have collected their third it was just a catch. All in all I am not too despondent. RH may just have time to keep us up with a clear out next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    We basically conceded that match at half time. Idiocy from Hojbjerg. You're not as good as you think you are, pal.
    I don’t know how good you think he thinks he is(?) but I bet he’s pretty much the first name on Ralph’s teamsheet. Yes it was stupid but there’s plenty of more worthy players you could vent your anger on.
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    Also, why did we play with JWP at wing back? JWP and Targett as wing backs - 'kin'ell, slowest wing backs ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    Also, why did we play with JWP at wing back? JWP and Targett as wing backs - 'kin'ell, slowest wing backs ever.
    we didnt at the start......it was a back 4 from the off..he changed it to wing backs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Look on the bright side, that team we put out will have p*ssed the Scousers right off.
    Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenridge View Post
    I don’t know how good you think he thinks he his(?) but I bet he’s pretty much the first name on Ralph’s teamsheet. Yes it was stupid but there’s plenty of more worthy players you could vent your anger on.
    Well, he won't be on the team sheet for the next three games, will he?

    I'm not going to waste my energy being angry at people for being ****. I am angry when our captain gets a stupid, self-inflicted red card though.

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    4 game ban for Hojbjerg now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    we didnt at the start......it was a back 4 from the off..he changed it to wing backs
    I know. He changed after we scored and then we went to ****. Poor call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintadjg View Post
    Today again shows how unfit we are. The fitness levels at this club are terrible and that's going to take time to turn around.
    This. I said at the end of the match thread I don't think it's a coincidence Arsenal & Cardiff wins came after a solid week of training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    I know. He changed after we scored and then we went to ****. Poor call.
    I thought it was before we scored?

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    At least Bournemouth are losing.

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    Other than the fact we kept the score down in the second half I can’t take one positive out of that today. Shambolic.

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    I don't get the doom and gloom concerning other results this weekend. The final positions will not be determined by this weekend's results. If we are good enough we will go and get the points we need in the rest of the season. If we aren't we will get relegated. The set of results this weekend has a minimal bearing on the final table. No point in exaggerating the effect.

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    assuming we dont draw at Derby....Hoj will be back for palace at home (if it is a 4 game ban)

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    Typical West Ham came to ours and looked strong , go to Burnley and are a joke ffs

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    For once I'm actually looking forward to players being sold. Where's Liverpool when you need em eh?

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    Gotta say whilst I like Ralph as much as the next man his team selections and subs were dodgy to say the least
    We are ending up with way too many headless chickens on the pitch with zero intelligence. Obvious choices to change the game would have been to get ings and Armstrong on.. but instead we get another two headless chickens on with valery and long.
    Elyounoussi is far far worse then boufal..and doesn't make any successfull dribbles
    How long gets anywhere near the pitch is a joke.
    Redmond looks back to his old self last two games.
    Long and elyounoussi shouldn't even be looked at as attacking options if you ask me.. how these two get on the pitch before ings gabbi and Armstrong is borderline retarded bar resting players

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefScummer View Post
    For once I'm actually looking forward to players being sold. Where's Liverpool when you need em eh?
    To busy winning the league

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    Once the ref failed to give the penalty first half the players decided there was hardly any point being there.
    They were probably right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    I thought it was before we scored?
    Maybe - I noticed after we scored, anyway!

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    Just left the match. Disappointing but now disastrous, except for Hojbjerg's red. Is it his second this season? If so missed four and he's the driving force in the midfield.

    McCarthy will no doubt get criticism from those running the witch Hunt, but he saved us at least three times. The third was the only one he might have done better with.

    Stephens, Bednarek good. Targett struggled again. Ramsey decent debut. Hojbjerg outstanding until his brain fart. Romeu pretty solid, Lemina poor. Ward-Prowse had a great game. Should have had a penalty, don't blame him for the og - he did get a block in. Good deliveries.

    Charlie did little. Missed a great chance and got stupidly booked.

    Of the subs, Valery was poor but Redmond and Long improved things.

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    Brain dead from PEH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Just left the match. Disappointing but now disastrous, except for Hojbjerg's red. Is it his second this season? If so missed four and he's the driving force in the midfield.

    McCarthy will no doubt get criticism from those running the witch Hunt, but he saved us at least three times. The third was the only one he might have done better with.

    Stephens, Bednarek good. Targett struggled again. Ramsey decent debut. Hojbjerg outstanding until his brain fart. Romeu pretty solid, Lemina poor. Ward-Prowse had a great game. Should have had a penalty, don't blame him for the og - he did get a block in. Good deliveries.

    Charlie did little. Missed a great chance and got stupidly booked.

    Of the subs, Valery was poor but Redmond and Long improved things.

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    Good summary

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    Was Ward-Prowse great?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    Lemina. **** attitude. Maybe he wants off to PSG. If any truth I'd let him go quick smart. Disgraceful half arsed performance.
    I have a feeling we won’t get many enquires for the Hoedt like players and will have to sell Lemina to get funds for Ralph to spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    McCarthy will no doubt get criticism from those running the witch Hunt, but he saved us at least three times. The third was the only one he might have done better with.

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    I actually think it’s the 2nd he should have done better with.

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