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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    I think it’s the right time when only one of the 4 players has actually played more than 45 minutes under our new manager.

    Sadly when you’ve signed tosh like Hoedt, the only way to get rid is loaning with options to buy. I can’t see any side jumping at the chance to permanently sign Cedric given how poor he has been for us.

    I would also wait till you panic, we still have Till Thursday at 11pm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by St Marco View Post
    Cedric has played in our last 4 games so I think you are talking **** again.
    IOne player? A player who clearly didnít want to be at Southampton, who has been dog awful for months. Yeah letís keep him and not ship him out so we can replace him. I do wonder sometimes. This place is mental, every game Cedric played, he canít defend, caught out in the air again, canít cross, useless. We then get rid and he is suddenly the key to our survival. Itís utter madness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by davefizzy14 View Post
    Who do you think we will get before the deadline on Thursday Cabbage face?
    No one. #meltdown


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    No one. #meltdown


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    Seriously!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    Daily now is it? Iíve not posted any new players for a while, as for some reason people donít like seeing transfer rumours in a transfer rumour thread. Theyíd rather see links from The Sun linking us to randoms. So you donít have to concern yourself with me posting any more rumours.

    So would I. Iíd love us to sign another mane. But do you want another rushed signing like Hoedt, Carrillo and co? Or for us to take some time and get it right?


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    Oh, binary false oppositions. Love it. It's hardly rushed anyway, is it? Sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    IOne player? A player who clearly didn’t want to be at Southampton, who has been dog awful for months. Yeah let’s keep him and not ship him out so we can replace him. I do wonder sometimes. This place is mental, every game Cedric played, he can’t defend, caught out in the air again, can’t cross, useless. We then get rid and he is suddenly the key to our survival. It’s utter madness.


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    Your point was we have been playing well with those players who have not been involved. Cedric has been involved. Now you are contradicting yourself.
    Cedric has been **** this season, no doubt about it. But he isn't the only one. You could list most of the squad as players who have either played bad or made mistakes. Even Hoj (who I think is player of season so far) has made some terrible mistakes. That is why we are in a relegation battle.
    Things are much better under fix it Ralph and if we continue as we have been playing we will be fine. But I agree letting people go without anything lined up is a gamble. Even if they have been **** for us because most of them have been **** for us up until a month or so ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Oh, binary false oppositions. Love it. It's hardly rushed anyway, is it? Sigh
    Translate that into non-pompous language please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    Hope we don't mess that up or I'll be a trifle annoyed. We need to get his registration under custody soon.
    I've heard he's custard. Next big thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Marco View Post
    Your point was we have been playing well with those players who have not been involved. Cedric has been involved. Now you are contradicting yourself.
    Cedric has been **** this season, no doubt about it. But he isn't the only one. You could list most of the squad as players who have either played bad or made mistakes. Even Hoj (who I think is player of season so far) has made some terrible mistakes. That is why we are in a relegation battle.
    Things are much better under fix it Ralph and if we continue as we have been playing we will be fine. But I agree letting people go without anything lined up is a gamble. Even if they have been **** for us because most of them have been **** for us up until a month or so ago.
    Itís not a contradiction, how many games has Cedric started in those last 4 games? And if Bertrand was fit would he have been on the bench? Didnít Ramsay even start over him? The other players have improved because they have bought into Ralph. Hoedt, Gabbi, Davis and Cedric either didnít want too or werenít capable. This is something Ralph said from day one.

    Cedric for me is replaceable, and donít really see him leaving and not being replaced till the summer a problem.

    Letís hope Iím right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    If someone is not playing, or being rubbish when they do, there's really nothing to replace.
    Of course there is. The whole point is that you improve the squad, weíre 4th from bottom and all we have done is make the squad weaker. We should be replacing Cedric and Gabbiadini with better players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Benali View Post
    Personally I think Cedric should of stayed.
    https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...20190126181822

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    Translate that into non-pompous language please.


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    Ok. There is nuance. You made a false opposition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Ok. Youíre a div


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    You forgot a full stop after div. #mess


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage_Face View Post
    You forgot a full stop after div. #mess


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    Youíre a div full stop after


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    chomp, chomp

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    Dog ate my cabbage


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    Southampton in talks to sign Olympiacos right-back Omar Elabdellaoui for £6m after failing to lure Joakim Maehle from Genk:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...llaoui-6m.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by aintforever View Post
    Of course there is. The whole point is that you improve the squad, we’re 4th from bottom and all we have done is make the squad weaker. We should be replacing Cedric and Gabbiadini with better players.
    That's a different point.

    Improvement would be great. But losing players who have been awful isn't a negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Southampton in talks to sign Olympiacos right-back Omar Elabdellaoui for £6m after failing to lure Joakim Maehle from Genk:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...llaoui-6m.html
    Possibly meaning Austin is only getting loaned out?

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    Very underwhelming. IMHO If you want your first choice targets then you should pay top dollar for them.

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    Agree with Pilch, in January it's put up or shut up if players are available who you really want. Never going to get a bargain in January and it's a sellers market for decent players.

    I like the look of the lad from Genk, looks a bit "Balesque" to me.
    Elabdellaoui has a poor record when he came over with Hull and screams cheap panic buy to me.

    If the club think Che Adams is who they want they need to lay down some hard cash, at least market rate which is 15 million+ in my eyes.

    We are far from safe and could really do with at least a couple of exciting young players who are doing the business now & raring to go.

    We come off looking really cheap right now.


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    Are we still on course to emerge stronger, those ITK?


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    I know it takes 2 to tango, but if we do get something done, why is it always at the end of the window? Seems a waste of 4 weeks.

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    Why couldn't we of secured a right back before we let Cedric go? Surely this is the logical thing to do? Why leave everything to last minute it makes us look like a bunch of clowns......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ally_uk View Post
    Why couldn't we of secured a right back before we let Cedric go? Surely this is the logical thing to do? Why leave everything to last minute it makes us look like a bunch of clowns......
    It's almost as if there was a political equivalent in the country


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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    I know it takes 2 to tango, but if we do get something done, why is it always at the end of the window? Seems a waste of 4 weeks.
    Because we have no pot to pith in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Southampton in talks to sign Olympiacos right-back Omar Elabdellaoui for £6m after failing to lure Joakim Maehle from Genk:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...llaoui-6m.html
    Weird if true seeing as a couple of days ago Ralph said:

    "It doesnít mean we donít take any player but itís a young one we try to build up for the future and there are a few players we are looking at.Ē

    27 isn't a young player for the future. Its effectively swapping one 27yo RB for (based on his career) a worse 27yo RB.

    I hope he isn't ****ed off as from his comments throughout the window i.e looking to add quality, will replace Gabbiadini, definitely signing someone etc, he clearly expected a bit more - and has earned the right to expect that more than any of our recent Managers.

    If we couldn't get who we really wanted at RB in Jan then why loan Cedric - its not like we need Ä500k - the cost of bedsit in London? We could have kept him and sold in the summer once more options were available to sign a young up and coming player as stated as the aim.

    Getting rid of the players we have totally makes sense, but our process of actually signing players remains a cluster**** - but then again, Ross Wilson has overseen a few of those as Head of Recruitment

    Of our four main targets, JKA, Mepham, Maehle, Adams it seems we just can't afford any of them, or are unwilling to pay what is needed to get the deal done. We won't get any of these in the summer either as their prices will go up if they keep doing well.


    We can brief the Echo of being "hopeful" of signing good players, just like we used to brief Jeremy Wilson, but that doesn't translate to actually signing good players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Just like previous January's, I don't think we will get anyone until maybe right at the end of the window. Maybe a rb on loan.
    Looking good so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Fan CaM View Post
    Because we have no pot to pith in.
    People keep on saying that. Do you have anything to confirm that?

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    Another link for the Norwegian right-back:

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/e...n-27-year-old/

    Not sure how it's an exclusive when 2 reports came up late last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Weird if true seeing as a couple of days ago Ralph said:

    "It doesn’t mean we don’t take any player but it’s a young one we try to build up for the future and there are a few players we are looking at.”

    27 isn't a young player for the future. Its effectively swapping one 27yo RB for (based on his career) a worse 27yo RB.

    I hope he isn't ****ed off as from his comments throughout the window i.e looking to add quality, will replace Gabbiadini, definitely signing someone etc, he clearly expected a bit more - and has earned the right to expect that more than any of our recent Managers.

    If we couldn't get who we really wanted at RB in Jan then why loan Cedric - its not like we need €500k - the cost of bedsit in London? We could have kept him and sold in the summer once more options were available to sign a young up and coming player as stated as the aim.

    Getting rid of the players we have totally makes sense, but our process of actually signing players remains a cluster**** - but then again, Ross Wilson has overseen a few of those as Head of Recruitment

    Of our four main targets, JKA, Mepham, Maehle, Adams it seems we just can't afford any of them, or are unwilling to pay what is needed to get the deal done. We won't get any of these in the summer either as their prices will go up if they keep doing well.


    We can brief the Echo of being "hopeful" of signing good players, just like we used to brief Jeremy Wilson, but that doesn't translate to actually signing good players.
    Dont disagree with any of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doggface View Post

    We come off looking really cheap right now.

    Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    Very underwhelming. IMHO If you want your first choice targets then you should pay top dollar for them.
    You mean like £19m for Carillo, whatever it was for Hoedt and Moi etc? They were targets and we paid top dollar. The issue isn't money, nobody can seriously suggest we haven't splashed the cash, the issue is scouting players that are good enough. I'm not sure if Maehle or the guy playing in Greece would improve us.

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    For a few windows now we have been very much in need of strengthening but we seem to drag out negotiations in the hope of maybe getting a deal over the line that we haven't paid full price for. I think we probably do have a little bit of money to spend but I don't think we have any desire to pay the proper money required in January to get our main targets. We've shown a pattern of not really commiting to signings in January as we obviously believe it's poor value which would be fine if we hadn't just let a load of our players leave. If we get injuries this could come back to bite us considering how close we are to the relegation zone.

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    I may gain a reputation as being too optimistic in this thread, but is it possible that we have leaked our interest in this Norwegian bloke as Gent are dragging their heals as they think we are desperate. We always assume we are being used to leverage deals on this forum (eg. Maddison) but people rarely discuss the idea we might do it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWar View Post
    I may gain a reputation as being too optimistic in this thread, but is it possible that we have leaked our interest in this Norwegian bloke as Gent are dragging their heals as they think we are desperate. We always assume we are being used to leverage deals on this forum (eg. Maddison) but people rarely discuss the idea we might do it back.

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    Yep that's far too optimistic, you should be in full#meltdown mode by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    That's a different point.

    Improvement would be great. But losing players who have been awful isn't a negative.
    So if we need a win on the last game to stay up and it's 0-0 with 10mins to go, it's a positive thing to not have Gabbiadini on the bench?

    Or if Valery gets suspended it's a positive thing to not have Cedric as an option to cover?

    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Weird if true seeing as a couple of days ago Ralph said:

    "It doesnít mean we donít take any player but itís a young one we try to build up for the future and there are a few players we are looking at.Ē

    27 isn't a young player for the future. Its effectively swapping one 27yo RB for (based on his career) a worse 27yo RB.

    I hope he isn't ****ed off as from his comments throughout the window i.e looking to add quality, will replace Gabbiadini, definitely signing someone etc, he clearly expected a bit more - and has earned the right to expect that more than any of our recent Managers.

    If we couldn't get who we really wanted at RB in Jan then why loan Cedric - its not like we need Ä500k - the cost of bedsit in London? We could have kept him and sold in the summer once more options were available to sign a young up and coming player as stated as the aim.

    Getting rid of the players we have totally makes sense, but our process of actually signing players remains a cluster**** - but then again, Ross Wilson has overseen a few of those as Head of Recruitment

    Of our four main targets, JKA, Mepham, Maehle, Adams it seems we just can't afford any of them, or are unwilling to pay what is needed to get the deal done. We won't get any of these in the summer either as their prices will go up if they keep doing well.


    We can brief the Echo of being "hopeful" of signing good players, just like we used to brief Jeremy Wilson, but that doesn't translate to actually signing good players.
    Typical saints under this management (I.e Kat, Gao, Ralph K, Les and Ross). Year after year we are let down.

    Time come out of this window weaker than when we started, whilst in a relegation battle, is a joke. Fair enough to get rid of those who arenít part of the plans, but they needed to be replaced with a player or 2 with quality.

    Beyond the starting 11 (even thatís debatable in some positions, I.e RB) we are disgustingly weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Weird if true seeing as a couple of days ago Ralph said:

    "It doesn’t mean we don’t take any player but it’s a young one we try to build up for the future and there are a few players we are looking at.”

    27 isn't a young player for the future. Its effectively swapping one 27yo RB for (based on his career) a worse 27yo RB.

    I hope he isn't ****ed off as from his comments throughout the window i.e looking to add quality, will replace Gabbiadini, definitely signing someone etc, he clearly expected a bit more - and has earned the right to expect that more than any of our recent Managers.

    If we couldn't get who we really wanted at RB in Jan then why loan Cedric - its not like we need €500k - the cost of bedsit in London? We could have kept him and sold in the summer once more options were available to sign a young up and coming player as stated as the aim.

    Getting rid of the players we have totally makes sense, but our process of actually signing players remains a cluster**** - but then again, Ross Wilson has overseen a few of those as Head of Recruitment

    Of our four main targets, JKA, Mepham, Maehle, Adams it seems we just can't afford any of them, or are unwilling to pay what is needed to get the deal done. We won't get any of these in the summer either as their prices will go up if they keep doing well.


    We can brief the Echo of being "hopeful" of signing good players, just like we used to brief Jeremy Wilson, but that doesn't translate to actually signing good players.
    Agree with all of this.

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    Calling K-Billy to the meltdown room! Until he calls it, I am going with the blind hope that we will at least get Maehle in!!

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    It doesn't look great - but I have more confidence in our squad than I did a few months ago - but concerning that we have weakened a squad that's already struggled for a few years now.

    Admittedly those that have gone I don't think are much of a loss, apart from Cedric and that's only if we don't bring in a replacement, because he's largely terrible. I'm fine with Valery at RWB, as long as he doesn't get sent off as Ramsey is clearly nowhere near ready to play in the Premier League yet. I guess in that position JWP could also do a job, but it's a gamble for sure.

    We seemed to be wanting a CB all window but that seems to have gone quiet, personally I've been surprised that we haven't been linked with any attacking players really apart from Adams. If Redmond gets injured then we're going to suddenly look very blunt IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    If we couldn't get who we really wanted at RB in Jan then why loan Cedric
    What if RH wasn't happy with Cedric's supposed 'don't really want to be here anymore' attitude and it was affecting the 'all for one and one for all' ethos that RH has instilled in the squad? Might the pros of ditching him not outweigh the pros of keeping him in that scenario?

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    It is concerning that, if Austin departs, we are one bad tackle away from having to rely on Shane Long or an unproven youngster for goals until the end of the season. It's a risky business to slim down a squad that's as low on quality as ours. Our first XI is clearly good enough to stay in the league but beyond that we suddenly look extremely thin. Got to hope Ralph can keep up the intensity of performance from now until the end of the season - we've taken a gamble that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    What if RH wasn't happy with Cedric's supposed 'don't really want to be here anymore' attitude and it was affecting the 'all for one and one for all' ethos that RH has instilled in the squad? Might the pros of ditching him not outweigh the pros of keeping him in that scenario?
    He was nothing of the sort according to Blackmore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    It is concerning that, if Austin departs, we are one bad tackle away from having to rely on Shane Long or an unproven youngster for goals until the end of the season. It's a risky business to slim down a squad that's as low on quality as ours. Our first XI is clearly good enough to stay in the league but beyond that we suddenly look extremely thin. Got to hope Ralph can keep up the intensity of performance from now until the end of the season - we've taken a gamble that's for sure.
    Yep. Playing with your premier league place like that is a dangerous game.

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    Desperately need a striker / forward player who can occasionally score goals and will stay fit. I'd be very worried if we didnt bring anyone in as an attacking midfielder or striker unless he thinks that Gallagher is good enough for the Prem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Got to hope Ralph can keep up the intensity of performance from now until the end of the season - we've taken a gamble that's for sure.
    Personally, I'd rather take the gamble, with Hasenhuttl at the helm, than chug along in 'going through the motions' mode under Hughes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    Personally, I'd rather take the gamble, with Hasenhuttl at the helm, than chug along in in 'going through the motions' mode under Hughes.
    Completely agree, but if we'd have done the same transfer business under Hughes we'd be sunk for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    It is concerning that, if Austin departs, we are one bad tackle away from having to rely on Shane Long or an unproven youngster for goals until the end of the season.
    A bad tackle, a poorly fitting pair of shoes or a stiff breeze.

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    Huddersfield have signed Karlan Grant from Charlton. Has done well in League 1 but the Premier League is a large jump. Having said that, Lookman has done ok at Everton...

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