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    Mirror reporting Saints bidding £8m for Adams.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...642.1548614642

    Gallagher would know him well from time at Birmingham together.

    Little and large job?

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    Birmingham Mail is reporting that the bid has been rejected but that it's believed to be our opening offer and another bid(s) will follow.

    For context, here's what Garry Monk is saying...

    “I am not concerned at all. The only time I ever need to concern myself with that is if the club come to you and say ‘We have got this’.

    “Until that point there is no need for me to even think about it.

    “We don’t want to sell any of our players, the owners are on board with that, we don’t want to sell any of our players.

    “I am not naive to think if ridiculous offers come in, that happens with every club in the world, if a ridiculous offer comes in and the owners are asking you to consider that - then you consider it.

    “But the owners are on the same page as me, we don’t want to sell anyone, we don’t need to sell anyone. It’s a case of not having to worry about that until if we ever have to deal with that.

    “It’s speculation and I have not even given it a second thought if I am honest.”

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    Additionally, Birmingham aren't allowed to sign any more players this season due to their transfer/finance situation.

    So, if they sold Adams, they presumably couldn't replace him under any circumstances.

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    Echo saying we want him and open to Austin moving on only in a permanent move.

    https://twitter.com/dailyechosaints/...204085766?s=19

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    If Adam Leitch confims we want him then we clearly do. Hope now that is known that we manage to get it done, as there will be interest from others.

    To sign Adams and get a fee for Austin would make it a very productive window IMO.

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    6m + Gallagher offer them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    Additionally, Birmingham aren't allowed to sign any more players this season due to their transfer/finance situation.

    So, if they sold Adams, they presumably couldn't replace him under any circumstances.
    Seems pretty unlikely we will pull this one off then, unless we offer really silly money.

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    Why would anyone sell their best player with no time to replace them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    Why would anyone sell their best player with no time to replace them ?

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    Interesting comparing him to Gallagher at Birmingham 2017-2018 in the same season about the same number of league appearance and about the same number of league goals ( Gallagher had 3 more league appearances and one more goal that season than Che).

    This guy is more of a wide man Redmond type than an out and out striker though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Interesting comparing him to Gallagher at Birmingham 2017-2018 in the same season about the same number of league appearance and about the same number of league goals ( Gallagher had 3 more league appearances and one more goal that season than Che).

    This guy is more of a wide man Redmond type than an out and out striker though?

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    Has played wide before but (I think) he's played up top in a 2 with ex-Saint Lukas Jutkiewicz this season.

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    11 posts and no youtube vid? ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    Why would anyone sell their best player with no time to replace them ?
    And according to the above, they are not even allowed to replace him this window! So yes, seems unlikely.

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    We are probably going to lose out to Spurs....not completely inconceivable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Pete View Post
    And according to the above, they are not even allowed to replace him this window! So yes, seems unlikely.
    They will most certainly not want to lose him if they can't replace him.

    I would assume it would help them in the long term to get £10m in the bank in-order to get the embargo lifted.

    Quote Originally Posted by saint lard View Post
    We are probably going to lose out to Spurs....not completely inconceivable.
    A modern day "Andy Reid" gazumping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    Why would anyone sell their best player with no time to replace them ?
    We managed to sell our best player before the transfer window had even opened and failed to replace him last January so anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    We managed to sell our best player before the transfer window had even opened and failed to replace him last January so anything is possible.
    Not entirely true as far as I recall. I believe we pre-replaced him with the next Dutch wonder defender the previous summer. Not saying it worked out especially well, but I'm pretty sure that was the theory ...

    Back to Adams. Anyone understand ffp properly? In the sense that if they sell him this window does the 8 million (or however much) help them, or does it just disappear into an accounting void, whereas waiting until the next 'season' means the money they get suddenly is available for them to re-invest?

    Genuinely got no idea, just wondering if it provides a technical accounting reason for choosing when to sell. Logic would dictate if they're in ffp trouble they're broke, so any money at any point would be useful, so thought there might be some reason for monks comments (other than just trying to bump up the price of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Not entirely true as far as I recall. I believe we pre-replaced him with the next Dutch wonder defender the previous summer. Not saying it worked out especially well, but I'm pretty sure that was the theory ...

    Back to Adams. Anyone understand ffp properly? In the sense that if they sell him this window does the 8 million (or however much) help them, or does it just disappear into an accounting void, whereas waiting until the next 'season' means the money they get suddenly is available for them to re-invest?

    Genuinely got no idea, just wondering if it provides a technical accounting reason for choosing when to sell. Logic would dictate if they're in ffp trouble they're broke, so any money at any point would be useful, so thought there might be some reason for monks comments (other than just trying to bump up the price of course).
    Hoedt was the long awaited replacement for fonte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Not entirely true as far as I recall. I believe we pre-replaced him with the next Dutch wonder defender the previous summer. Not saying it worked out especially well, but I'm pretty sure that was the theory ...

    Back to Adams. Anyone understand ffp properly? In the sense that if they sell him this window does the 8 million (or however much) help them, or does it just disappear into an accounting void, whereas waiting until the next 'season' means the money they get suddenly is available for them to re-invest?

    Genuinely got no idea, just wondering if it provides a technical accounting reason for choosing when to sell. Logic would dictate if they're in ffp trouble they're broke, so any money at any point would be useful, so thought there might be some reason for monks comments (other than just trying to bump up the price of course).
    Birmingham broke? is that anyuthing to do with 'Arry' buying eleven players and then getting the sack?

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    surely if we really wanted Adams it wouldn't be that hard to arrange a player plus cash swap with one of our lesser lights going there.

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    Burnley in for Adams as well according to Nixon.

    https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/s...453603840?s=19



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    Quote Originally Posted by jasoneuelllfanclub View Post
    Burnley in for Adams as well according to Nixon.

    https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/s...453603840?s=19



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    Seems like Birmingham are leaking info to the press to drum up interest and start a bidding war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasoneuelllfanclub View Post
    Burnley in for Adams as well according to Nixon.

    https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/s...453603840?s=19
    Epic SaintsWeb meltdown imminent if we get out-muscled by Burnley.

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    Apparently 12 Prem sides interested, we just seem to be the first to make an offer. We're certainly far more appealing than we were a month or two ago..

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    All agent talk

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    Isn’t it usually the way that we are heavily linked with a player only to sign someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellman View Post
    Birmingham broke? is that anyuthing to do with 'Arry' buying eleven players and then getting the sack?
    No, that's purely coincidental. I'm sure their finances were Rosie when he left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Not entirely true as far as I recall. I believe we pre-replaced him with the next Dutch wonder defender the previous summer. Not saying it worked out especially well, but I'm pretty sure that was the theory ...

    Back to Adams. Anyone understand ffp properly? In the sense that if they sell him this window does the 8 million (or however much) help them, or does it just disappear into an accounting void, whereas waiting until the next 'season' means the money they get suddenly is available for them to re-invest?

    Genuinely got no idea, just wondering if it provides a technical accounting reason for choosing when to sell. Logic would dictate if they're in ffp trouble they're broke, so any money at any point would be useful, so thought there might be some reason for monks comments (other than just trying to bump up the price of course).
    They have a transfer ban due to breaching FFP (and signing a player this summer when they knew they had no cash). Not 100% sure, but don’t think the Adams money would be enough to bring them into compliance (‘Arry really did a number on them). Even if it did, zero chance of the EFL agreeing to rescind their ban.

    So if we buy him him in jan, they go without for the rest of season (and possibly next season if they don’t get the ban lifted)

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    Its official @BCFC are not negotiating with anyone about Che Adams- he is not for sale #BCFC
    Should we be concerned or up our bid???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    Isn’t it usually the way that we are heavily linked with a player only to sign nobody else?
    Corrected it for you

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    Neil Moxley at the Daily Mirror posted this update at 13:36...


    I understand the fee for Che Adams will be north of £15m. Southampton are the main interested party.

    They are offloading Charlie Austin, too. Burnley have been scouting Adams but my information is that Austin is leaving on a permanent deal for around £8m.

    Could Turf Moor be a potential destination for the Saints striker? He fits the type of profile that Shaun Dyche likes and the Clarets are in the market for a forward.

    The fee for Adams will be the highest received for a player at St Andrew’s. But that will be of little consolation to Blues boss Garry Monk who is still operating under a transfer embargo because of FFP issues.

    However, Birmingham broke the rules to such an extent that this may leave little wriggle-room before the transfer window closes.

    It will depend on the conversations they are currently having with the Football League. The club is still operating under the threat of a transfer embargo.

    Garry Monk doesn’t want to sell Adams because where will he find a replacement at this late stage? But with a fee of that size the club will have little option but to cash in.

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    OOh exciting. Walcott mark two about to unfold, clearly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    Neil Moxley at the Daily Mirror posted this update at 13:36...


    I understand the fee for Che Adams will be north of £15m. Southampton are the main interested party.

    They are offloading Charlie Austin, too. Burnley have been scouting Adams but my information is that Austin is leaving on a permanent deal for around £8m.

    Could Turf Moor be a potential destination for the Saints striker? He fits the type of profile that Shaun Dyche likes and the Clarets are in the market for a forward.

    The fee for Adams will be the highest received for a player at St Andrew’s. But that will be of little consolation to Blues boss Garry Monk who is still operating under a transfer embargo because of FFP issues.

    However, Birmingham broke the rules to such an extent that this may leave little wriggle-room before the transfer window closes.

    It will depend on the conversations they are currently having with the Football League. The club is still operating under the threat of a transfer embargo.

    Garry Monk doesn’t want to sell Adams because where will he find a replacement at this late stage? But with a fee of that size the club will have little option but to cash in.
    Sounds like a load of bull to me but let's wait and see. £8m permanent deal for Austin?!!! Not a chance that bit is true for a start.

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    https://twitter.com/thegoalzone/status/1089888388336025600

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    Quote Originally Posted by once_bitterne View Post
    Every player is for sale to the club who comes up with the right amount of spondoolies, as we well know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Every player is for sale to the club who comes up with the right amount of spondoolies, as we well know.
    Yes but do we want to be offering a stupid amount for a player who has been decent at championship level. £8 million seems fair similar to what we paid for Armstrong. More than that we might as well utilize Gallagher whose goal scoring exploits where pretty much identical to Che's last season in the same team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Yes but do we want to be offering a stupid amount for a player who has been decent at championship level. £8 million seems fair similar to what we paid for Armstrong. More than that we might as well utilize Gallagher whose goal scoring exploits where pretty much identical to Che's last season in the same team.

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    Different types of player from what I have seen. Throw a bit of cash and Gallagher at them, make them see some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Yes but do we want to be offering a stupid amount for a player who has been decent at championship level. £8 million seems fair similar to what we paid for Armstrong. More than that we might as well utilize Gallagher whose goal scoring exploits where pretty much identical to Che's last season in the same team.

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    £8m seems low these days for a player of high potential who is one of the top scorers in the Championship.

    Its the same as we paid for Jay Rod about 5 years ago and the fees have gone mad since then.

    Re the Gallagher point, that is näive. Its about more than what his goal tally last year was - its the specific attributes the player brings. If Gallagher had them then he would be playing in the first XI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    Different types of player from what I have seen. Throw a bit of cash and Gallagher at them, make them see some sense.
    With a transfer ban I assume they wouldn't be able to sign Gallagher. I doubt there is any chance of prizing Che away from Birmingham short of paying way over the odds for him which doesn't really make sense to do.

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    If after this window we've swapped Gabbiadini and Austin for Che Adams then we've done well. Exactly what we should be doing, reducing squad size and wage bill while having more who fit way we want to play with potential to develop.

    Feels like one that's more likely for the summer though really.

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    Doesn't feel like this signing fits the 'Southamption Way'. Yes, bags of experience with Liverpool and Stoke which could be useful, but doesn't fit the mould for me. Think he is past it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawillwill View Post
    Doesn't feel like this signing fits the 'Southamption Way'. Yes, bags of experience with Liverpool and Stoke which could be useful, but doesn't fit the mould for me. Think he is past it.
    Who wants to tell him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawillwill View Post
    Doesn't feel like this signing fits the 'Southamption Way'. Yes, bags of experience with Liverpool and Stoke which could be useful, but doesn't fit the mould for me. Think he is past it.
    you know this is Che Adams and not Charlie Adams right? One is a 22 year old young striker playing for Birmingham, the other is a journeyman footballer playing for Stoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    you know this is Che Adams and not Charlie Adams right? One is a 22 year old young striker playing for Birmingham, the other is a journeyman footballer playing for Stoke.
    You've just been wummed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    you know this is Che Adams and not Charlie Adams right? One is a 22 year old young striker playing for Birmingham, the other is a journeyman footballer playing for Stoke.
    Any hints as to whether this (Che!) is likely to happen Eric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache View Post
    Any hints as to whether this (Che!) is likely to happen Eric?
    Nope none at all that i know of, did hear there was someone looking round staplewood but that was last week and could've been nothing. Guan might know more though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    Different types of player from what I have seen. Throw a bit of cash and Gallagher at them, make them see some sense.
    If they can't buy Gallagher on part exchange of FFP rules. could they take Gallagher on loan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawillwill View Post
    Doesn't feel like this signing fits the 'Southamption Way'. Yes, bags of experience with Liverpool and Stoke which could be useful, but doesn't fit the mould for me. Think he is past it.
    I really hope he isn’t joking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache View Post
    Any hints as to whether this (Che!) is likely to happen Eric?
    Should we really be signing Che Zach Everton Fred Adams? Fred and Adams are bad enough, but Everton?

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