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    Is this just another bid for a player that is not for sale. The management then claim they were trying to do something. I know it's cynical but how many times have we seen it in previous windows slam shut with no decent incomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Yes but do we want to be offering a stupid amount for a player who has been decent at championship level. 8 million seems fair similar to what we paid for Armstrong. More than that we might as well utilize Gallagher whose goal scoring exploits where pretty much identical to Che's last season in the same team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Is this just another bid for a player that is not for sale. The management then claim they were trying to do something. I know it's cynical but how many times have we seen it in previous windows slam shut with no decent incomings.
    How many?

    Summer we bought people. Last January record transfer striker. Summer before Lemina and several others. January before Gabbiadini.

    How they work out no one knows at the time. But we have spent and brought people in. It seems we're trying to move away from that and be a bit more sensible about things now after 2 years of mismanagement.

    Yet many seem annoyed about it.

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    Just youtubing him, as you do. I know you can only score against what's put in front of you, but some of the defending.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHs06T4IS6k&t=3m14s

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Is this just another bid for a player that is not for sale. The management then claim they were trying to do something. I know it's cynical but how many times have we seen it in previous windows slam shut with no decent incomings.
    What players have we bid for that aren't for sale? Seems an odd allegation.

    It's utter ****** to suggest that we can't sign players. We have a bloated squad cos we've signed too many!! Truth is a lot of them are sh1te, but this line that we can't or don't sign players is ******.

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    I assume this is a Wilson signing as I am pretty sure when they asked Ralph who he may want this guy wouldn’t of featured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    you know this is Che Adams and not Charlie Adams right? One is a 22 year old young striker playing for Birmingham, the other is a journeyman footballer playing for Stoke.
    Oh dear. I believe the word 'Whooooosh' is appropriate at this point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadesmith View Post
    Oh dear. I believe the word 'Whooooosh' is appropriate at this point!
    Given the state of our fans it's really difficult to tell sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    Given the state of our fans it's really difficult to tell sometimes
    I concur

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    Quote Originally Posted by northam soul View Post
    I assume this is a Wilson signing as I am pretty sure when they asked Ralph who he may want this guy wouldn’t of featured.
    No doubt been tracking his career for some time..... which may of course be true as we were linked whilst he was at Sheffield Utd.

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    I liked him at Sheff Utd, would be pleased to get him especially if around the 10mil mark.

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    For north of 15mil I'd rather we just went for JKA. Worked under hassenhuttl, natural finisher with skill and pace and likely to make us more money in the long run when inevitably solder to the scousers. Yes, he would be a record signing but I'd be happy with just him in this window. JKA, Redmond and Ings is a mouth watering prospect.

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    I liked him at Sheff Utd, would be pleased to get him especially if around the 10mil mark.

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    what sort of player is he...I gather he is a forward but is he another carrillo or a mane? (extremes, I know)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Scott View Post
    .....Yes, he would be a record signing......
    Our recent history with 'record signings' is not particularly good.

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    Reading into what Ralph said we may sign him now but he joins in the summer

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    From the transfers thread, looks like only a possibility, not first choice, probably for the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    what sort of player is he...I gather he is a forward but is he another carrillo or a mane? (extremes, I know)
    Take a pinch of Dixon
    Wrap him up in Speedie
    Add a touch of Pahars
    And a little bitty bit of Pedro Jacinto El Eyene

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Is this just another bid for a player that is not for sale. The management then claim they were trying to do something. I know it's cynical but how many times have we seen it in previous windows slam shut with no decent incomings.

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    Well we will see if hes in the squad to face Swansea tonight live on Sky.
    It would be a telling omission perhaps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saint lard View Post
    Well we will see if hes in the squad to face Swansea tonight live on Sky.
    It would be a telling omission perhaps.


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    Im gonna say he will start, considering he is there best player.


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    This looks like an odd one to me. Career total 45 goals in 160 games with a third of those games coming in league one? Not that tall or powerful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    This looks like an odd one to me. Career total 45 goals in 160 games with a third of those games coming in league one? Not that tall or powerful?

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    Wouldn't it be fairer to judge a 22 year old on the current season as not every player is ready to score a load of senior goals at 18.

    This season Adams has scored 14 goals in 28 league games... which is impressive for a team in the bottom half of the Championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Wouldn't it be fairer to judge a 22 year old on the current season as not every player is ready to score a load of senior goals at 18.

    This season Adams has scored 14 goals in 28 league games... which is impressive for a team in the bottom half of the Championship.
    Billy Sharp has scored 18!

    Scoring goals in the championship doesnt automatically qualify you for the step up.

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    Refreshing to see ya going back to what we did (potentially) preciously in signing the best players from the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzmeister View Post
    Refreshing to see ya going back to what we did (potentially) preciously in signing the best players from the championship.
    Plenty of talent down at that level. AFCB have done well in that market

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Is this just another bid for a player that is not for sale. The management then claim they were trying to do something. I know it's cynical but how many times have we seen it in previous windows slam shut with no decent incomings.
    Can we still blame Les...

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    Of course. It's always the fault of someone who's recently left, at work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Billy Sharp has scored 18!

    Scoring goals in the championship doesnt automatically qualify you for the step up.
    And Sharp never had the chance to play in the Premier League, so you can't go round saying "he's had scored 0 in EPL." Give him the chance, then we will know. I predict he would score!

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    Again, a certain section on here have the skate mentality of spend! spend! spend!, regardless of where that takes us. We have young forwards, why this fella, is he the Messiah? RB, then see how we go, I have great faith in RH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingeletiss View Post
    Again, a certain section on here have the skate mentality of spend! spend! spend!, regardless of where that takes us. We have young forwards, why this fella, is he the Messiah? RB, then see how we go, I have great faith in RH.
    Why does it mean those that are worried about Targett and Ramsey at full backs want to spend spend spend or dont back Ralph?
    Why cant we do loans with an option and strengthen with us 3 point's off zone?
    If Cedric and Hoedt return we dont take up that option or does it only work on outs?

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    https://twitter.com/MirrorAnderson/s...580932096?s=19


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    If we genuinely want him and can't see off Burnley then you do have to wonder about the capability of Wilson and Krueger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    What players have we bid for that aren't for sale? Seems an odd allegation.

    It's utter ****** to suggest that we can't sign players. We have a bloated squad cos we've signed too many!! Truth is a lot of them are sh1te, but this line that we can't or don't sign players is ******.
    Promes for one that wasn't available but we spent the whole of January 18 allegedly after him. We've spent an awful lot of money on other teams mistakes such as Carillo and Hoedt. Vestergaard doesn't look that special. It's easy to buy that sort of player. The fact we are loaning out so many costly recently bought players shows how poor we have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    If we genuinely want him and can't see off Burnley then you do have to wonder about the capability of Wilson and Krueger.
    It may not be down to Wilson and/or Krueger. We might only have a certain amount that we can or want to spend and/or think the player is worth and are not prepared to go above that. 45 goals in 160 games in League One and the Championship does not make him a world beater and even his record this season does not make him in my view worth anything above 12 million at tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasoneuelllfanclub View Post
    https://twitter.com/MirrorAnderson/s...580932096?s=19


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    If that is correct, which I doubt, you'd have to fancy us to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    If that is correct, which I doubt, you'd have to fancy us to get him.
    says the Burnley forum too ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Promes for one that wasn't available but we spent the whole of January 18 allegedly after him. We've spent an awful lot of money on other teams mistakes such as Carillo and Hoedt. Vestergaard doesn't look that special. It's easy to buy that sort of player. The fact we are loaning out so many costly recently bought players shows how poor we have been.
    Promes, apparently, is that it?! As for the remainder, we agree that we are able to sign players, and that we do so. That some players turn out to be rubbish is a secondary issue - more scouting than ambition/financial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    If we genuinely want him and can't see off Burnley then you do have to wonder about the capability of Wilson and Krueger.
    Yep, and it will be the meltdown of all meltdown's

    If the player comes us it will be because we have given more money to Birmingham or the player prefers Saints, if he goes to Burnley
    it will be because Burnley gave Birmingham more money or he prefers Burnley.

    One day this place will run out of who to blame

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    If Burnley was to get him then it would come down to offering the player more wages than we have. Although we both would of agreed a 35k salary and if a club feel they are losing out then they will offer more money to the player. This is the part where we will stay on a price and not shift.
    Reckon we have lost many other players like this in thew past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    If we genuinely want him and can't see off Burnley then you do have to wonder about the capability of Wilson and Krueger.
    I'd see it more about the capabilities of Gao/Liebherr, i.e. our owners.

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    @reluctantnicko: CHE ADAMS. No offer has matched valuation yet. Due to start for BIRMINGHAM tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    @reluctantnicko: CHE ADAMS. No offer has matched valuation yet. Due to start for BIRMINGHAM tonight.
    ie they're probably asking for "too" much, and why wouldn't they? They're under no obligation to sell, and good luck to them in keeping him, or trying to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    ie they're probably asking for "too" much, and why wouldn't they? They're under no obligation to sell, and good luck to them in keeping him, or trying to.
    Exactly. Really good championship strikers probably are worth 15m these days, TBF.

    But for all their bravado, they must need the money.

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    To be frank from what I've seen he's better than Carillo so pay 15-20m and we have another great option up front. What's the cost of going down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkSFC View Post
    To be frank from what I've seen he's better than Carillo so pay 15-20m and we have another great option up front. What's the cost of going down...
    That assumes we have 15 - 20m to spend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    If that is correct, which I doubt, you'd have to fancy us to get him.
    Just offer Austin to Burnley if they agree to walk away. Simples

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Just offer Austin to Burnley if they agree to walk away. Simples
    You were worrying about not having a striker in for the Palace game, and yet you would be all okay with giving Austin to Burnley when we have them coming up this weekend and would potentially strengthen a relegation rival?

    Righto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    @reluctantnicko: CHE ADAMS. No offer has matched valuation yet. Due to start for BIRMINGHAM tonight.
    Birmingham have a lot to learn......

    If a club bids for your player just accept the offer.

    If you don't the player will sulk and probably go on strike.

    Rule no.1: If a player is wanted by a club higher in the hierarchy you simply have to sell and sell immediately.

    This will probably end in tears for niave Birmingham

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Just offer Austin to Burnley if they agree to walk away. Simples
    Leicester would be best. (They have cash to burn, we've already played them twice & they have loads of our rivals to play).

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