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    Quote Originally Posted by Bexy View Post
    I reckon the club will reluctantly cut their losses on those loanees and accept knock-down fees for them, so I doubt we will see many/any of them back here next season.

    The squad obviously needs major surgery and we have to clear some dead wood to make room for the kind of players Ralph wants to bring in.
    Can't see there being a knock down fee for Hoedt or Boufal if Celta are relegated (they are now in the bottom 3). A fee for Guido, optimistic. Clasie and Cedric maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Can't see there being a knock down fee for Hoedt or Boufal if Celta are relegated (they are now in the bottom 3). A fee for Guido, optimistic. Clasie and Cedric maybe.
    Yeah, any future deals for these guys looks bleak.

    I think we'd let Clasie leave for a nominal fee, but whether Feyenoord could get anywhere close to what he's on here, would be questionable.

    Biggest problem is we still likely have large sums to pay on the Carrillo / Boufal / Hoedt deals.

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    What I'd like to see in the summer.
    1. Bring back boufal. Think it was a mistake to loan him out this season. Would be good to have someonee else with pace and ability to beat a man, if redmond can turn it around I see no reason boufal couldn't do the same.. could be like a new signing, deserves a fair chance under Ralph..
    2 Augustin. Looks so pacy and with the technique to back it up, Ralph knows him well and he's not getting the game time at Leipzig.should be ideal signing for us but if we can't get him a striker should be priority anyway.
    3 another cb. I don't think the 3 of bednarek yosh and vest are doing too badly, but if the reason Ralph thinks we need three at the back is because of lack of quality.. then we should probably try to get another decent cb.

    Actually think these 3 additions could turn us around quite a lot we are looking fine in midfield and wing back positions are looking ok too bar maybe cover for valery.. but signing another one could block his progress.

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    Game of opinions but those who are gagging for the return of Boufal are wrong IMO.

    Best we can do is get £10m for him and move on woth players who actually suit the PL and RH style.

    Boufal is just a mote skillful Elyounoussi. He isn't what RH wants. No real pace, not the best off the ball.

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    It's difficult to say right now, seeing as we're still very much in a relegation battle, so what we need depends on what league we're in.

    If we're in the Prem:

    Keeping Hasenhuttl is key.

    Largely we just need a bit of quality, because despite being in a relegation battle, we actually have a decent core of players playing well under Hasenhuttl. Let's say we bring in Maehle, Adams and Augustin, that's pretty much all we need if we can keep the players we want to keep. You could argue we'd also need a centre back but I'd say that's dependant on whether Ralph feels Stephens is up to the job or not, plus whether Alfie Jones will ever make the step up.

    Outs: Cedric, Hoedt, Clasie, Boufal, Austin, Long, Forster, Carillo (if we can, or loans to free up wages), also possibly one or two youngsters like Reed, McQueen and Gallagher if they don't have futures here. I doubt there'd be many takers for Moi though...

    So our squad would look like:

    GK: McCarthy, Gunn, Lewis

    RB: Maehle, Valery

    LB: Bertrand, Targett

    CB: Vestergaard, Bednarek, Yoshida, Stephens, Jones

    CM: Romeu, Hojbjerg, Lemina, JWP, Slattery

    AM: Armstrong, Redmond, Elyounoussi, Augustien, Sims

    Str: Ings, Adams, Obafemi.

    (plus youngsters, not sure who doesn't count towards the squad of 25, I believe Obafemi doesn't so may room for one more senior signing, either a centre back or another winger/AM)

    I still think 7th is the best we can hope for, the top 6 are, well, the top 6 and it will take any side some going to break into that. The squad above should be enough to fight for 7th IMO.

    If we go down? Woof, doesn't bear thinking about, but at least Hasenhuttl has given experience to Johnson, Ramsey, Slattery and obviously Obafemi so we still have the makings of a decent young side.

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    Unless McCarthy regains the first team spot I'd be surprised if he'll look to remain with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Unless McCarthy regains the first team spot I'd be surprised if he'll look to remain with us.
    Burnley will probably sign him - they love stockpiling England keepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Game of opinions but those who are gagging for the return of Boufal are wrong IMO.

    Best we can do is get £10m for him and move on woth players who actually suit the PL and RH style.

    Boufal is just a mote skillful Elyounoussi. He isn't what RH wants. No real pace, not the best off the ball.
    I'm not so sure I agree. He's no slouch and he is technically gifted. He didn't look the part under Pellegrino, but neither did Redmond, and he is thriving now under Ralph.

    I would like to see if he can have the same effect on Boufal, because if he can then we would have some player on our hands, like a new signing with no fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpin4rizeal View Post
    What I'd like to see in the summer.
    1. Bring back boufal. Think it was a mistake to loan him out this season. Would be good to have someonee else with pace and ability to beat a man, if redmond can turn it around I see no reason boufal couldn't do the same.. could be like a new signing, deserves a fair chance under Ralph..
    2 Augustin. Looks so pacy and with the technique to back it up, Ralph knows him well and he's not getting the game time at Leipzig.should be ideal signing for us but if we can't get him a striker should be priority anyway.
    3 another cb. I don't think the 3 of bednarek yosh and vest are doing too badly, but if the reason Ralph thinks we need three at the back is because of lack of quality.. then we should probably try to get another decent cb.

    Actually think these 3 additions could turn us around quite a lot we are looking fine in midfield and wing back positions are looking ok too bar maybe cover for valery.. but signing another one could block his progress.
    Completely agree with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bexy View Post
    I'm not so sure I agree. He's no slouch and he is technically gifted. He didn't look the part under Pellegrino, but neither did Redmond, and he is thriving now under Ralph.

    I would like to see if he can have the same effect on Boufal, because if he can then we would have some player on our hands, like a new signing with no fee.
    Boufal is not a quick, direct player.

    Someone like Lookman (that type of profile) suits RH game far more.

    Boufal will come back because Celta won't want to sign him, which is telling in itself.

    I expect he will be loaned out again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bexy View Post
    I'm not so sure I agree. He's no slouch and he is technically gifted. He didn't look the part under Pellegrino, but neither did Redmond, and he is thriving now under Ralph.

    I would like to see if he can have the same effect on Boufal, because if he can then we would have some player on our hands, like a new signing with no fee.
    My sentiments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Game of opinions but those who are gagging for the return of Boufal are wrong IMO.

    Best we can do is get £10m for him and move on woth players who actually suit the PL and RH style.

    Boufal is just a mote skillful Elyounoussi. He isn't what RH wants. No real pace, not the best off the ball.
    Assuming we stay up, it's imperative Ralph H stays.

    Following that, I'm more than happy to let him decide what happens to Boufal.

    Unquestionable talent. Questionable attitude.

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    Big clearout needed

    Out (at reduced prices if necessary)

    Cedric
    Hoedt
    Stephens
    Clasie
    Reed
    Elyonoussi
    Boufal
    Gabbiadini
    Austin
    Long
    Carrillo

    In

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    CB x2
    Winger
    AM
    CF x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Boufal is not a quick, direct player.

    Someone like Lookman (that type of profile) suits RH game far more.

    Boufal will come back because Celta won't want to sign him, which is telling in itself.

    I expect he will be loaned out again.
    He certainly looked quick and direct when he dribbled round 4 West Brom players from the half way line to score last season. Maybe he wasn’t quick and direct but that’s wasn’t how sideways, possession at all cost, Pellegrino wanted him to play. There is definitely a player in there, but he also appears a bit of a bellend too, so let’s see if Hasenhuttl can and wants to work with him. If the can then he could save us a fortune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Boufal is not a quick, direct player.

    Someone like Lookman (that type of profile) suits RH game far more.

    Boufal will come back because Celta won't want to sign him, which is telling in itself.

    I expect he will be loaned out again.
    Without really wanting to highlight flaws with redmond, who has been good this season, if you actually look at his stats 3 goals and two assists this season in 30 prem games, and that was pretty much all starts and being our main creative player.. I find it hard to believe that boufal wouldn't be capable of the same given a 30 game run, anyway he is a million times better then elyounoussi so is worth bringing him back even if only to push el down the pecking order and strengthen options

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    He certainly looked quick and direct when he dribbled round 4 West Brom players from the half way line to score last season. Maybe he wasn’t quick and direct but that’s wasn’t how sideways, possession at all cost, Pellegrino wanted him to play. There is definitely a player in there, but he also appears a bit of a bellend too, so let’s see if Hasenhuttl can and wants to work with him. If the can then he could save us a fortune.
    Inclined to agree. Not convinced he will cut it, but Put it this way, I'd certainly rather an on form boufal than spending another 15 million on another mo ely. I trust Ralph, and by the time the next window shuts he'll have had time in pre and early season to assess whether he's worth persisting with, and will then action accordingly. Whichever Ralph chooses is fine with me(as if that matters!)

    Don't think we'll be spending a fortune this summer, so if we have one less purchase to make (and one less high wage earner to sell at a loss) I'd see that as a good thing.

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    Southampton ‘came close’ to signing player in January, and are a ‘prominent suitor’ for summer

    Real Sociedad have their eye on François Kamano, report their local source Noticias de Gipuzkoa, but there are several problems in the way of them signing the Bordeaux player, including Southampton.

    The 22 year old is flexible in attack and has scored nine goals so far this season, it’s claimed the French club would be looking at €15-20m for the player.

    That would be the first hurdle to jump.

    Then there’s Atletico Madrid, who have been watching him this season. On top of that, it’s claimed that both Southampton and AS Monaco ‘came close’ to signing the player in the January window, and both are ‘prominent suitors’ for the summer market.

    Southampton were linked with a winter move as early as November, but Bordeaux were adamant their player wouldn’t be leaving the club midway through the season.

    Watford were strongly linked in January, with it being claimed they were in talks over a €16m transfer.
    Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampto...suitor-summer/

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    Would like us to look at Rebic if we are still in the PL.

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    Jarrod Bowen With another couple of goals in the first half today for Hull.

    Definitely worth looking at.

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    Mitrovic and Sessignon wouldn’t be a bad start

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Jarrod Bowen With another couple of goals in the first half today for Hull.

    Definitely worth looking at.
    Definitely. This guy can't stop scoring.

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    Strange one allegedly we are looking at Mings from Bournemouth..

    https://www-dailyecho-co-uk.cdn.ampp...yrone-mings%2F

    We've fallen pretty far if we are signing Bournemouth rejects now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Strange one allegedly we are looking at Mings from Bournemouth..

    https://www-dailyecho-co-uk.cdn.ampp...yrone-mings%2F

    We've fallen pretty far if we are signing Bournemouth rejects now...

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    Is he going to get a stamp of approval

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Strange one allegedly we are looking at Mings from Bournemouth..

    https://www-dailyecho-co-uk.cdn.ampp...yrone-mings%2F

    We've fallen pretty far if we are signing Bournemouth rejects now...

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    He is a Saints academy reject. He left Staplewood a a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    He is a Saints academy reject. He left Staplewood a a kid.
    Yes I am aware but now he is a Bournemouth player who he can't get a game to the point of being loaned out to villa. I was hoping we would aim a little higher in the summer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fat Controller View Post
    Mitrovic and Sessignon wouldn’t be a bad start
    I would ****ing love Mitrovic, gives everything, great with his back to goal, great attitude for the team when under the right manager (not Rafa) and never seems to miss games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintwbu View Post
    I would ****ing love Mitrovic, gives everything, great with his back to goal, great attitude for the team when under the right manager (not Rafa) and never seems to miss games.
    He is a very good player. But not a pressing player. I think we will look for someone with more mobility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    He is a very good player. But not a pressing player. I think we will look for someone with more mobility.
    He would fit the pressing game perfectly

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    Don't think Mitrovic fits the system, but he's better than our strikers that's for sure.

    Sessegnon will still go somewhere better even though he hasn't had a huge impact.

    I don't think we need a big overhaul, we've been half decent since Ralph took over. RB, CB, winger and striker. 4 good signings, move on Austin, Long, Boufal, Carillo, Elyounoussi, maybe even Lemina. If Forster can't find a club I'd use him as back up and sell McCarthy. Just don't rate him that highly and not convinced Ralph does either.

    Back up should come from the academy, not poor signings. Johnson, Ramsey, Barnes, Gallagher, Sims, Slattery, Valery should all be involved. Saves a fortune and only takes a couple of them to really step up to provide a real boost.

    Despite our struggles, I'd want Gunn, Vesterguard, Bednarek, Hojbjerg, JWP, Redmond all starting next season in the team really.


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    We definitely need a striker over haul. We have what Cantona ( I think) described as water carriers, which is what may be required in an honest hard working side attempting to avoid relegation.
    What we will require if we stay up are a couple of enigmas, players who may disappear from games and are carried for spells , but are pacey, unpredictable and most importantly score plenty of goals. I hope such a player can be found by our scouting network although the black box has failed to identify a good enough player for some time, probably since Mane joined us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsland Red View Post
    We definitely need a striker over haul. We have what Cantona ( I think) described as water carriers, which is what may be required in an honest hard working side attempting to avoid relegation.
    What we will require if we stay up are a couple of enigmas, players who may disappear from games and are carried for spells , but are pacey, unpredictable and most importantly score plenty of goals. I hope such a player can be found by our scouting network although the black box has failed to identify a good enough player for some time, probably since Mane joined us.
    I agree, I believe we would have identified the type of players you mention and scouting them should not be too difficult, However getting them to sign is another ball game all together I would think

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    Giroud has made it clear he wants to be first choice, not an impact sub, next season.
    I dare say his wage expectations would exceed our budget, sadly. Hopefully we can find a cheaper option somewhere in the world. At the minute our only out and out strikers are the broken Ings and Austin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Giroud has made it clear he wants to be first choice, not an impact sub, next season.
    I dare say his wage expectations would exceed our budget, sadly. Hopefully we can find a cheaper option somewhere in the world. At the minute our only out and out strikers are the broken Ings and Austin.
    However good Giroud is, Ralph wants movement up top, not statues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guan 2.0 View Post
    Very Excited. Fresh Budgets, Targets researched and scouted, and no January Premium on the players. On top of that, Ralph gets a Pre-season to establish how he wants to play.

    I just hope that they turn out to be decent when they get here.
    “Very Excited. Fresh Budgets, Targets researched and scouted, and no January Premium on the players.“

    This is an April Fools, isn’t it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsland Red View Post
    We definitely need a striker over haul. We have what Cantona ( I think) described as water carriers, which is what may be required in an honest hard working side attempting to avoid relegation.
    What we will require if we stay up are a couple of enigmas, players who may disappear from games and are carried for spells , but are pacey, unpredictable and most importantly score plenty of goals. I hope such a player can be found by our scouting network although the black box has failed to identify a good enough player for some time, probably since Mane joined us.
    I agree with you but I think they have identified such players e.g. Promes but trying to get the signing over the line in January when you are struggling and the selling club doesn't have to sell is difficult (a bit of both that time). The club has two choices in the summer (when league position is less of an issue, we should hae some momentum and a quality manager) if it wants some pace and unpredicatability:

    - Break the transfer record if it can clear some of the decks and make less £15m Les signings (but risk around injuries)
    - Go for Adama Traore type buys as Wolves did for £18m (S Clarke will be chocking at the thought somewhere) that are more raw speed and where end product is questionable. What we did with Redmond I guess.

    The ITKs have hinted the strategy post-Les will be more of the former but those players are more in demand so it's a question of what the USP is to join Saints and not a possibly bigger but not top level side. My argument would be 'look what Mane and VVD have gone onto, do well for two years and it's win-win if Barca or City/Liverpool/Man U come in'.

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    Kik Pierie came up through Dutch club Heerenveen’s academy before being promoted to their first team in 2017.

    Having made his debut in 2016/17 season, the 18-year-old has already made 59 appearances in the league.

    He’s been a regular inclusion in his side’s defence since the start of the last campaign.

    According to Calciomercato, the Boston-born Netherlands U19 international has drawn attention from other clubs and Southampton have ‘set their sights’ on the defender.

    Any potential approach from the Saints in landing the teenager will see them face competition from Ajax as the report claims the centre-back is also a ‘goal’ for the Eredivisie club.

    There’s no further mention on Southampton’s interest and what they intend to do with it, but the club are said to be keen.

    Pierie’s contract with Heerenveen will run down in 2020 and If he decides to join Ajax, Pierie could be a replacement for Matthijs de Ligt, who is drawing attention from top clubs across Europe.

    Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampto...-another-club/

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    Big clearout needed

    Out (at reduced prices if necessary)

    Cedric
    Hoedt
    Stephens
    Clasie
    Reed
    Elyonoussi
    Boufal
    Gabbiadini
    Austin
    Long
    Carrillo

    In

    RB
    CB x2
    Winger
    AM
    CF x2
    We've been doing well and Ralph got his wish of a smaller squad, which was needed.

    If we sign 7 players in the summer we'll be a mess again.

    2 or 3 high quality signings and we'll be looking really good. We're heading towards 40 points with a squad that had Mark Hughes for nearly half a season. Don't underestimate that effect. Ralph would have had these players about 10th anyway.

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    Right Back, CB, Forward at least

    All good enough to start and all quick

    in an ideal world, outs...

    Hoedt
    Cedric
    Carrillo
    Clasie
    Forster
    Austin
    Gallagher
    Reed


    reckon yoshida will be allowed to 'leave' and god knows with Hoj

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    Pacey Forward a priority alongside clear out.

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    Wish list would go something like this:

    IN:
    Mario Hermoso
    Youcef Atal
    Jarrod Bowen
    Jean-Kevin Augustin

    OUT:
    Long
    Ings
    Austin
    Elyounoussi
    Gallagher
    Forster
    Cédric
    Hoedt
    Davis
    Reed
    Hesketh
    Boufal
    Clasie
    Carrillo

    How the hell do we have so many players?!! Even with all those players out we would have something like starting line up of Gunn, Bednarek, Hermoso, Vestergaard, Atal, Bertrand, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Ward-Prowse, Bowen & Augustin and a bench of McCarthy, Yoshida, Valery, Lemina, Armstrong, Sims & Redmond. Stephens, Targett, Slattery and Obafemi would also be in the squad. Ridiculous amount of deadwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartman View Post
    Wish list would go something like this:

    IN:
    Mario Hermoso
    Youcef Atal
    Jarrod Bowen
    Jean-Kevin Augustin

    OUT:
    Long
    Ings
    Austin
    Elyounoussi
    Gallagher
    Forster
    Cédric
    Hoedt
    Davis
    Reed
    Hesketh
    Boufal
    Clasie
    Carrillo

    How the hell do we have so many players?!! Even with all those players out we would have something like starting line up of Gunn, Bednarek, Hermoso, Vestergaard, Atal, Bertrand, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Ward-Prowse, Bowen & Augustin and a bench of McCarthy, Yoshida, Valery, Lemina, Armstrong, Sims & Redmond. Stephens, Targett, Slattery and Obafemi would also be in the squad. Ridiculous amount of deadwood.
    Interesting thing about Bowen is that Hull's parachute payments run-out this summer, so they are likely to have a big financial void to fill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    reckon yoshida will be allowed to 'leave'
    Why?

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    I'd take Augustin and Adams. Preferably a leader at CB too. And that's it. 3 big signings.

    Sell all the loanees plus Long and Austin and one of Forster or McCarthy.

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    Championship has some talent we should be looking at the best young players in that league!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    I'd take Augustin and Adams. Preferably a leader at CB too. And that's it. 3 big signings.

    Sell all the loanees plus Long and Austin and one of Forster or McCarthy.
    That one being Forster

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    Quote Originally Posted by ally_uk View Post
    Championship has some talent we should be looking at the best young players in that league!
    100% you just need to look at the likes of Maddison, Brooks and Will Hughes and how well they've done. Players like Che Adams, Jarrod Bowen, Joe Lolley, Neal Maupay and Daniel James should be looked at

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    100% you just need to look at the likes of Maddison, Brooks and Will Hughes and how well they've done. Players like Che Adams, Jarrod Bowen, Joe Lolley, Neal Maupay and Daniel James should be looked at
    is he that insanely quick lad a swansea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartman View Post
    Wish list would go something like this:

    IN:
    Mario Hermoso
    Youcef Atal
    Jarrod Bowen
    Jean-Kevin Augustin

    .
    Bowen certainly looks a good prospect and from what I've seen of him a player that might thrive under Ralph. I'd be surprised if Augustin happens given that Leizig were rumoured to looking for £35m, plus the fact if as expected they sell Werner they are unlikely to offload another striker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Bowen certainly looks a good prospect and from what I've seen of him a player that might thrive under Ralph. I'd be surprised if Augustin happens given that Leizig were rumoured to looking for £35m, plus the fact if as expected they sell Werner they are unlikely to offload another striker.
    I doubt a player who has only played 382 minutes of league football this season would cost that much, £30m at most, probably less. If Rangnick rated him as much as Ralph did he would play him more.

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