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    Apparently reducing the size of the squad was a critical action that we had to take in January so RH would have a smaller pool of players to focus on. But is there a reason you can't just send players who aren't in contention to train with the reserve/U23 squad? Do players now have it written into their contracts that they can't be demoted like that? It would seem a more judicious course of action when your main striker is highly injury prone and your now first-choice right back is a teenager.

    (Obviously this doesn't address our (apparent) need to save on a few months of wages, but that's not the line the club took in January anyway).

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    it was a cost cutting exercise. Maybe in the hope we could get a couple of targets on the cheap.
    but essentially, a cost cutting exercise with some well placed articles from the club, hyping up young players who are just not that good at the moment.

    as per, many saints fans lapped it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    it was a cost cutting exercise. Maybe in the hope we could get a couple of targets on the cheap.
    but essentially, a cost cutting exercise with some well placed articles from the club, hyping up young players who are just not that good at the moment.

    as per, many saints fans lapped it up
    Yep, agree with that.

    Its surprising how many seem to think that we are going to go on some kind of spending spree in the summer (if we stay up) without selling anymore players. The club have already suggested Hojbjerg will be sold by saying several top clubs have been looking at him.

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    Hasn't RH been quoted as wanting a squad of 18 senior players, supported by the U21s ? If so, then there will be plenty more outgoings before any incoming players will be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    it was a cost cutting exercise. Maybe in the hope we could get a couple of targets on the cheap.
    but essentially, a cost cutting exercise with some well placed articles from the club, hyping up young players who are just not that good at the moment.

    as per, many saints fans lapped it up
    Good practice though if we go down. This will seem like a snip compared to the cost cutting required for the Championship.

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    The problem is, if this was cost cutting (which it seemingly is), it's only temporary cost cutting. So therefore it doesn't really make a great deal of sense.

    The return of Cedric, Hoedt, Bouful, Carillo, Clasie in the NPC is going to kill us financially. We won't be able to do anything until those are gone.

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    just quick on on our most expensive ever player. Carrillo
    now an unused sub for Leganes with a M'boro loan'ee ahead of him




    Leganes sit 11th in La Liga
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    So the idea that disgruntled senior players causing problems in the camp because they aren’t getting regular games so being shipped out to help restore morale doesn’t wash? Yet only a couple of days ago it was seen as the reason why things had changed and why we were unbeaten this year? One poor result and the world falls in and we are back to where we were. We weren’t the worst club in the world before Christmas, we weren’t last week and we aren’t now. But there is clearly a lot of work to be done in terms of the playing strength and that has only just started. What happens in the summer will obviously depend on which division we are in but we can depend on one thing at least, the whinging will continue here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    So the idea that disgruntled senior players causing problems in the camp because they arenít getting regular games so being shipped out to help restore morale doesnít wash? Yet only a couple of days ago it was seen as the reason why things had changed and why we were unbeaten this year? One poor result and the world falls in and we are back to where we were. We werenít the worst club in the world before Christmas, we werenít last week and we arenít now. But there is clearly a lot of work to be done in terms of the playing strength and that has only just started. What happens in the summer will obviously depend on which division we are in but we can depend on one thing at least, the whinging will continue here.
    It's not one poor result, it's three. 2 points from those three games is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    just quick on on our most expensive ever player. Carrillo
    now an unused sub for Leganes with a M'boro loan'ee ahead of him




    Leganes sit 11th in La Liga
    Looks like we got shafted on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verlaine1979 View Post
    Apparently reducing the size of the squad was a critical action that we had to take in January so RH would have a smaller pool of players to focus on. But is there a reason you can't just send players who aren't in contention to train with the reserve/U23 squad? Do players now have it written into their contracts that they can't be demoted like that? It would seem a more judicious course of action when your main striker is highly injury prone and your now first-choice right back is a teenager.

    (Obviously this doesn't address our (apparent) need to save on a few months of wages, but that's not the line the club took in January anyway).
    What manager in his right mind would not want less players in his squad? Too many players is only going to interfere with the manager's ability to focus properly on the players he has in his squad and his ability to work which players are **** and which are good. It's obvious and it's why we are always hearing top managers like Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp moaning in post match interviews about how their squads are too big and that they wish that they had less player's to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stknowle View Post
    What manager in his right mind would not want less players in his squad? Too many players is only going to interfere with the manager's ability to focus properly on the players he has in his squad and his ability to work which players are **** and which are good. It's obvious and it's why we are always hearing top managers like Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp moaning in post match interviews about how their squads are too big and that they wish that they had less player's to choose from.
    Too right. How often do we hear managers saying how they are just two or three sales away from the squad they need, or that if they can definitely sell this player it would be the last piece of jigsaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Too right. How often do we hear managers saying how they are just two or three sales away from the squad they need, or that if they can definitely sell this player it would be the last piece of jigsaw.
    Like paying agents fees, we are also the only club that must shift deadwood before being able to sign anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Too right. How often do we hear managers saying how they are just two or three sales away from the squad they need, or that if they can definitely sell this player it would be the last piece of jigsaw.
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    Last edited by stknowle; 10-02-2019 at 07:05 PM. Reason: poorly thought out

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    Why this didn't happen in the summer I don't know.

    I appreciate for players like Davis the move made sense, he gets to go somewhere he wants and play and we no longer needed him.

    But for some of the players (Cedric/Gabbi etc) they could still do a job, just make them a promise that if they knuckle down until the end of the season we will actively look to sell them.

    Can't remember many other teams wanting to "cut down" mid-season.

    Could have been worse, we could have been left without Austin and McCarthy by all accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    just quick on on our most expensive ever player. Carrillo
    now an unused sub for Leganes with a M'boro loan'ee ahead of him




    Leganes sit 11th in La Liga
    He has just returned from injury. Leganes are currently only 3 points off of 6th place.

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    The activity of the club in the January transfer window just looked like the actions of a club who have one eye on The Championship. Cut costs, get the kids used to first team football ready for next season. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    just quick on on our most expensive ever player. Carrillo
    now an unused sub for Leganes with a M'boro loan'ee ahead of him




    Leganes sit 11th in La Liga
    5 goals in 18 appearances if only Long and Austin could be that prolific..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd View Post
    The activity of the club in the January transfer window just looked like the actions of a club who have one eye on The Championship. Cut costs, get the kids used to first team football ready for next season. :-(
    Which would have been utterly ridiculous bearing on mind we were 16th off the back of a few decent results...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd View Post
    The activity of the club in the January transfer window just looked like the actions of a club who have one eye on The Championship. Cut costs, get the kids used to first team football ready for next season. :-(
    Just looked like getting some money in by selling anyone who was sollicited elsewhere to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd View Post
    The activity of the club in the January transfer window just looked like the actions of a club who have one eye on The Championship. Cut costs, get the kids used to first team football ready for next season. :-(
    Playing kids in the Championship will mean League One football the year after

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd View Post
    The activity of the club in the January transfer window just looked like the actions of a club who have one eye on The Championship. Cut costs, get the kids used to first team football ready for next season. :-(
    Sacking Hughes shows they are terrified of going down. The January transfer window showed their arrogance/stupidity that we'd survive with Ralph, and could afford to not only not strengthen a poor squad, but actually weaken it further.

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