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    Knowing our luck, Bednarek and Hoj will get injured during the international break, probably JWP too for good measure.

    Brighton have a couple of good players amongst their mediocre ones, I remember Solly March giving Cedric a really tough time in the reverse fixture.

    I predict 1-1 (dodgy pen and missed blatant red cards included).

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    We should have too much quality for them but we all know it's never that simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint IQ View Post
    We should have too much quality for them but we all know it's never that simple
    Gotta love this kind of arrogance, when we are below them in the league and their home form is pretty decent (W6 D4 L4). Typical modern Saints fan reaction after a decent win. Let's not kid ourselves that this will suddenly be an easy game. A point is a decent enough result here after the win against Spurs. Brighton will clearly be bang up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Expect us to be bang up for this, and at this stage feeling confident of at least a draw. I'd like:

    Gunn
    Jan
    Yoshi
    Vesti
    Valrey
    JWP
    Hoj
    Bertrand
    Redmond
    Ings
    Armstrong

    McCarthy
    Stephens
    Targett
    Romeu
    Lamina
    Sims
    Austin

    By and large the team that finished Saturday, but with Ings starting if fit instead of Sims. Possibly a bit harsh for Long to miss out entirely - thought he was decent for his 20 mins Saturday and could be useful if we get our noses in front and are defending; but Sims has to be the 'pace' option after his performance, and Austin offers more of a goal threat IMHO. If Lamina's not fit would want either Slattery or Long as the other sub. Other substitute option might be to bin off Stephens and have Bertrand as our 'sub' centre back (Targett to left back, move Ryan).
    This is not a game for Armstrong to start. Sims a better option, he has more awareness and energy ...

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    Am expecting...

    Gunn

    Valery
    Bednarek
    Yoshida
    Vestergaad
    Bertrand

    Romeu
    Hojbjerg
    JWP

    Redmond

    Ings

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    Big, big game. Get 3 points here and assuming Chelsea do us a favour then Cardiff will need realistically 6 points from 7 games to overtake us.

    This is one of those games it could go either way but if we play like we did against Utd and 2nd half against Spurs then 3 points is certainly there for the taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    This is not a game for Armstrong to start. Sims a better option, he has more awareness and energy ...
    err yeah what with Armstrong getting the assist for the first goal and making the energetic run from midfield, that brought the professional foul for the free kick, that became the winner he certainly has no place in the team...
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    This is not a game for Armstrong to start. Sims a better option, he has more awareness and energy ...
    You are an odd one - great half from Sims but for someone who kept on telling us how unready Valery was for the first-team despite playing really well until you changed his mind after one worldy against United ... you now want to shove Sims straight into a starting spot above an international footballer with Champions League experience based on a good 45 minutes? Sims hasn't scored a single goal in his professional career (and no assists that I can remember). Armstrong has 4 goals and 1 assist this season. Not spectacular, but ranked 4th in the squad this season.

    I like Sims, I think he has a future, and hope he plays out of his skin for the rest of the season, with numerous goals and assists. But right now I'd start Armstrong ahead of him, no question. Still, we're all entitled to our opinion I guess, and if Ralph agrees with you I'll be fine with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    You are an odd one - great half from Sims but for someone who kept on telling us how unready Valery was for the first-team despite playing really well until you changed his mind after one worldy against United ... you now want to shove Sims straight into a starting spot above an international footballer with Champions League experience based on a good 45 minutes? Sims hasn't scored a single goal in his professional career (and no assists that I can remember). Armstrong has 4 goals and 1 assist this season. Not spectacular, but ranked 4th in the squad this season.

    I like Sims, I think he has a future, and hope he plays out of his skin for the rest of the season, with numerous goals and assists. But right now I'd start Armstrong ahead of him, no question. Still, we're all entitled to our opinion I guess, and if Ralph agrees with you I'll be fine with it.
    Look at his post history.

    I see his name and swipe down to next post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Not far off with this.

    We need a striker, cb, right back and possibly a winger in the summer.
    Agreed, though I'd swap your priorities of winger and right back over; another wide / attacking / creative player is a must-have IMHO; with Valery's progress, I think we're probably looking at a back-up right back rather than a starter? Could be wrong, of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    You are an odd one - great half from Sims but for someone who kept on telling us how unready Valery was for the first-team despite playing really well until you changed his mind after one worldy against United ... you now want to shove Sims straight into a starting spot above an international footballer with Champions League experience based on a good 45 minutes? Sims hasn't scored a single goal in his professional career (and no assists that I can remember). Armstrong has 4 goals and 1 assist this season. Not spectacular, but ranked 4th in the squad this season.

    I like Sims, I think he has a future, and hope he plays out of his skin for the rest of the season, with numerous goals and assists. But right now I'd start Armstrong ahead of him, no question. Still, we're all entitled to our opinion I guess, and if Ralph agrees with you I'll be fine with it.
    Sims has no assists that you can remember??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    Sims has no assists that you can remember??????
    There's one very famous one!

    "Sims......he can run for the hills here.....LONG!!!!! AND takes SAINTS to Wembley...deal done...history made!!!!" (paraphrasing)
    Last edited by OttawaSaint; 12-03-2019 at 05:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    You are an odd one - great half from Sims but for someone who kept on telling us how unready Valery was for the first-team despite playing really well until you changed his mind after one worldy against United ... you now want to shove Sims straight into a starting spot above an international footballer with Champions League experience based on a good 45 minutes? Sims hasn't scored a single goal in his professional career (and no assists that I can remember).

    https://youtu.be/DUdLwfYwEsI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Sims hasn't scored a single goal in his professional career (and no assists that I can remember).
    25 seconds in...


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    Oh ...

    Coat!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    You are an odd one - great half from Sims but for someone who kept on telling us how unready Valery was for the first-team despite playing really well until you changed his mind after one worldy against United ... you now want to shove Sims straight into a starting spot above an international footballer with Champions League experience based on a good 45 minutes? Sims hasn't scored a single goal in his professional career (and no assists that I can remember). Armstrong has 4 goals and 1 assist this season. Not spectacular, but ranked 4th in the squad this season.

    I like Sims, I think he has a future, and hope he plays out of his skin for the rest of the season, with numerous goals and assists. But right now I'd start Armstrong ahead of him, no question. Still, we're all entitled to our opinion I guess, and if Ralph agrees with you I'll be fine with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austsaint View Post
    Your card's been marked.
    Errrr not sure but didn’t Sims score two with asssists too in his last U23 game?

    How many first team minutes has he actually played to be very fair to him.
    In any case statistics don’t tell the whole story. Wins and general contribution count too.
    Sims does tend to affect games pretty well and shows very well for the ball which is massively important in momentum terms when in possession. Armstrong is still often not involved enough in that phase so he can quite often be anonymous for long periods. Hopefully he can become more consistent in this regard.
    By all means be offended by that analysis though if you wish.
    Btw Valery similar and to be honest Ralph is coaching him more in occupying space rather than being marked so it’s coming along and two goals is obviously superb stuff....

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    Did an online predictor, had this one down as a 1-1 draw. Did it pretty quickly but we didn’t really get any breathing room until after the 35th game where we got 6pts ahead of Cardiff. A wina Brighton could really start to see us feeling comfortable but I think it’ll be drawn out much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    Did an online predictor, had this one down as a 1-1 draw. Did it pretty quickly but we didn’t really get any breathing room until after the 35th game where we got 6pts ahead of Cardiff. A wina Brighton could really start to see us feeling comfortable but I think it’ll be drawn out much more.
    A win is massive here not only does it potentially increase our lead over Cardiff and Burnley it drags Brighton back into the relegation fight as well.

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    Take a draw. Hard to predict what version of Saints will turn up - we've often been really poor in games we were expected to push for a win in, but have beaten Arsenal, Spurs, taken a point at Chelsea and were robbed of at least a point at Man United.

    I do tend to think away games suit our set up better. Provided there's enough pace on the pitch to counter attack meaningfully.

    But Brighton are that kind of Burnley-like team that play grim, hard to beat, attritional football and steal a scruffy goal from a set piece. We never seem to do well against the likes.

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    Think we will win this, Brighton seemed to celebrate like they had won the league after Palace, if that was Saints doing the same I would expect us to follow that up with a real **** performance!

    Then again, we will follow up the Spurs win with an equally limp performance. A draw it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    This is not a game for Armstrong to start. Sims a better option, he has more awareness and energy ...
    I think that ‘awareness and energy’ are two of Armstrong’s strengths !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    This is not a game for Armstrong to start. Sims a better option, he has more awareness and energy ...
    I think that ‘awareness and energy’ are two of Armstrong’s strengths !!

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    Am I the only one who thinks Armstrong's a bit crap? He's got a good shot on him and seems to try hard, but for a supposed midfielder, he doesn't have many useful midfield attributes. He's not a strong passer or tackler - and his first touch is as bad as Shane Long's.

    I know we didn't pay much for him, and he's handy squad ballast, but even so he's been pretty underwhelming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks Armstrong's a bit crap? He's got a good shot on him and seems to try hard, but for a supposed midfielder, he doesn't have many useful midfield attributes. He's not a strong passer or tackler - and his first touch is as bad as Shane Long's.

    I know we didn't pay much for him, and he's handy squad ballast, but even so he's been pretty underwhelming.

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    He's hardly a world-beater, granted. But take out JWP's set-piece contribution, and Armstrong has looked like the only player in the squad able to offer a goal-threat from midfield (assuming we count Redmond as a forward these days). And seeing as our forwards can hardly muster a threat themselves, we need all the help we can get in that regard.

    If we had better options I'd happily see him slip down the pecking order, but until then we're a bit stuck IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks Armstrong's a bit crap? He's got a good shot on him and seems to try hard, but for a supposed midfielder, he doesn't have many useful midfield attributes. He's not a strong passer or tackler - and his first touch is as bad as Shane Long's.

    I know we didn't pay much for him, and he's handy squad ballast, but even so he's been pretty underwhelming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks Armstrong's a bit crap? He's got a good shot on him and seems to try hard, but for a supposed midfielder, he doesn't have many useful midfield attributes. He's not a strong passer or tackler - and his first touch is as bad as Shane Long's.

    I know we didn't pay much for him, and he's handy squad ballast, but even so he's been pretty underwhelming.

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    I tend to agree with this and captainChris above. He’s isn’t aggressive and doesn’t join in much with pressing - hence why he had a period of not getting in. I think Ralph saw that

    Having said that he made a great impact vs Spurs and looked much better so hopefully he can get back to the form he showed in the decent patch he had earlier in the season

    Agree that Sims made a bigger overall contribution to how well we played 2nd half however he might be a better impact player from the bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    Think we will win this, Brighton seemed to celebrate like they had won the league after Palace, if that was Saints doing the same I would expect us to follow that up with a real **** performance!

    Then again, we will follow up the Spurs win with an equally limp performance. A draw it is!
    You forgot to add that we'll probably lose.

    I'll happily settle for a draw, along with a Cardiff loss to Chelsea. The latter lost 4-0 to the Cherries so their ability to screw things up cannot be underestimated. And everyone here knows we can play well against the big boys but crap against the mediocre teams.

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    Beating Spurs is such a huge result. Almost makes up for losing against Cardiff at home.

    Looking the fixtures both Cardiff and Burnley have tougher matches than us. In Ralph we trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    Beating Spurs is such a huge result. Almost makes up for losing against Cardiff at home.

    Looking the fixtures both Cardiff and Burnley have tougher matches than us. In Ralph we trust.
    Ah yes but did we beat them on merit by superior strategy and tactics or was it just mother fortune dishing us up a large slice of luck for once. Good for morale of course but next time perhaps Yoshi's off-post clearance attempt goes in, Valery's scuffed shot goes over the bar and Prowse's free kick hits the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    Ah yes but did we beat them on merit by superior strategy and tactics or was it just mother fortune dishing us up a large slice of luck for once. Good for morale of course but next time perhaps Yoshi's off-post clearance attempt goes in, Valery's scuffed shot goes over the bar and Prowse's free kick hits the wall.
    ....and Kane’s goal is ruled offside. Works both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    Ah yes but did we beat them on merit by superior strategy and tactics or was it just mother fortune dishing us up a large slice of luck for once. Good for morale of course but next time perhaps Yoshi's off-post clearance attempt goes in, Valery's scuffed shot goes over the bar and Prowse's free kick hits the wall.
    The luck in the Spurs game was really in them spurning so many chances in the first half. We were fortunate to still be in the game at half time, but on balance of play and chances created, we 'won' the second half fair and square.

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    Would be very happy with a point. Keep up the momentum etc. Might Ings be ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Would be very happy with a point. Keep up the momentum etc. Might Ings be ready?
    Hope Ings will be fit for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Armstrong has looked like the only player in the squad able to offer a goal-threat from midfield
    Getting a little MLG here, sorry, but 2019 goal scorers in the league (most recent at top)
    Ward-Prowse
    Valery
    Ward-Prowse
    Valery
    Ward-Prowse
    Romeu
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    Redmond
    Ward-Prowse
    Ward-Prowse
    OG
    Ward-Prowse
    Long

    I'm thinking there's another midfielder there who might be offering a goal-threat.

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    Having said that, the point stands: our forwards are awful and frankly you may as well play JWP and Valery up front right now, if it wasn't for the fact they're also doing well at their day jobs.

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    Quite liked the look of Sims Redmond and Armstrong aka Sterling Aguero and Silva in terms of pace and physique....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanimal View Post
    Quite liked the look of Sims Redmond and Armstrong aka Sterling Aguero and Silva in terms of pace and physique....
    I wonder if City would consider a straight swap?

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    Looks like they'll be sitting on a defeat to Milwall for 2 weeks beforehand. Brighton look absolutely terrible, I see no reason at all why we can't win this, if we play to our potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    Looks like they'll be sitting on a defeat to Milwall for 2 weeks beforehand. Brighton look absolutely terrible, I see no reason at all why we can't win this, if we play to our potential.
    2-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    2-2
    Perhaps not then

    Honestly no idea how they managed that!

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    So as it turned out, they won!

    Manchester City the week after us, hopefully they'll have half an eye on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    Perhaps not then

    Honestly no idea how they managed that!
    Solly March was the instigator.

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    After watching that this afternoon I am now more than convinced we can take three points from the S.h.i.t.e.hawks.They were very lucky to get that free kick and even luckier that the Lions keeper messed up.Murrays constant fouling continues and he needs to be hit hard very early in the game.Press them high and hit them and we will be three points closer to safety.We have the potential, lets apply it 100%
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    Luckiest team in the league Brighton.
    On borrowed time in PL and we should comfortably win.
    1-1

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    That Millwall keeper tho. Wow. How inept


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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    That Millwall keeper tho. Wow. How inept


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    I think the cross was missing too.
    Am I right it needed a touch before going in?

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