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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    I did not peg you as a shirt wearer.

    In all honesty, the kit is starting to grow on me a little.
    The 5 a side team I play for wears Black and I needed a new top so it was good timing. Home kit is still appaling but I like the away one because I've always been a fan of a bit of yellow on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvictaSaint View Post
    Or perhaps the sponsorship deal itself is no longer a certainty (which, given the ongoing website issues for LD Sports, would not come as a complete surprise...)
    Could it by any chance be a contractual row between Virgin/ LD Sports/Saints. I'm sure I heard that Virgin had renewed their shirt sponsorship before LD announced theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Saint View Post
    Is it just me or does the sponsor's logo look a bit off-centre?
    Yes. Thatís why itís called a fake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Isn't that deliberate in order to avoid copyright issues?
    Nah, that's just a mistake, legally you can get done on the law of 'passing off' if it is that similar !!

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    Any ebay links to buy one? Can't find any myself.

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    It is the black/yellow away kit I have ordered too. My son has the green away kit with blue sash (15/16) and the black away kit (16/17), so it seems we always favour the away kits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    Any ebay links to buy one? Can't find any myself.
    This is the one I used, should be arriving in a couple of weeks.....

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F323855846695

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    Quote Originally Posted by sibster View Post
    This is the one I used, should be arriving in a couple of weeks.....

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F323855846695
    Mine has arrived in the UK, I will post pics when it gets here, hopefully in the next couple of days

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    Available in the Under Armour shop in Amsterdam.
    Under Armour would not allow the sponsors logo after some investigation by them apparently.


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    So a dodgy sponsor then. What most people expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint lard View Post
    Available in the Under Armour shop in Amsterdam.
    Under Armour would not allow the sponsors logo after some investigation by them apparently.


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    Looks good without the sponsor

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfc4prem View Post
    Looks good without the sponsor
    Better. I think ‘good’ is pushing it a bit.

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    Hilarious.

    We should do some mock ups of kits this week and choose one via a SWF vote. We can get it trending. I still don't understand how the ****e bra kits we've had over the last few years were actually decided upon by a bunch of people around a table. Who are they? We can do better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeG View Post
    Hilarious.

    We should do some mock ups of kits this week and choose one via a SWF vote. We can get it trending. I still don't understand how the ****e bra kits we've had over the last few years were actually decided upon by a bunch of people around a table. Who are they? We can do better!
    Who was the bloke on here who used to do amazing kit mockups? Was it gecko Saint or some guy with a lizard avatar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saint lard View Post
    Available in the Under Armour shop in Amsterdam.
    Under Armour would not allow the sponsors logo after some investigation by them apparently.


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    Seventy Five Euros!!! Wow!!
    I thought Walking into the Official Barcelona Shop in Playa d'Aro and seeing rails of Barcelona shirts at 90 euros was bonkers!

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    all a but strange

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    "Wrong, heal sealed motifs and badges are notoriously unstable (I'm looking at last years kit right now and the logo is peeling !) and any factory in China can have problems !
    Having been in some hundreds of factories in Asia over the years and bought similar items as these in huge quantities, I assure you that UA suppliers are not exempt from this danger" !


    Not trying to be a smartarse but all along I suspected that the application of the LD logo was the problem ! Given that the shirts are available in UA stores overseas without the logo and that the first team has played with the logo implies that this has been a quality issue rather than a legal one !
    It is quite a large badge with shaped edges and will definitely be prone to peeling !
    I'll wager that the EBay copies will suffer from this sooner rather than later !

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    To be fair, my 1 year old daughter's kit from last year has the Virgin logo peeling and is different shades of red and she probably wore it no more than 10 times.

    The quality is abysmal

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    Why doesn't the club sell the shirts without the sponsor's logo? It's not as if they exist, and fans would prefer it.

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    The fact that the shirt is on sale in Europe but without the logo may suggest that's how the shirts are supplied from UA. And, as has already been officially mentioned, the dispute is with a 'third party' so could mean they are responsible for adding the logo and somethingís gone wrong there.

    That then probably means UA are not the problem, that scenario would also rule out any reason to do with the sponsor being dodgy. As the shirts have already arrived in Europe kind of suggests this 'third party' is probably Europe or UK based and an ongoing battle is now going on as to responsibility for any problem. Someone else mentioned there was also a cock-up with the sponsors logo last year too.

    Or they may just have decided the shirt is sh*te and ditched the lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100%Red&White View Post
    The fact that the shirt is on sale in Europe but without the logo may suggest that's how the shirts are supplied from UA. And, as has already been officially mentioned, the dispute is with a 'third party' so could mean they are responsible for adding the logo and something’s gone wrong there.

    That then probably means UA are not the problem, that scenario would also rule out any reason to do with the sponsor being dodgy. As the shirts have already arrived in Europe kind of suggests this 'third party' is probably Europe or UK based and an ongoing battle is now going on as to responsibility for any problem. Someone else mentioned there was also a cock-up with the sponsors logo last year too.

    Or they may just have decided the shirt is sh*te and ditched the lot!
    some blame must lie with UA if this is the case then- why use a sh*t 3rd party then for printing on the logo?

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    I think I read (maybe the article in the Mail) that this is the case, that UA supply the shirt, and then they get sent off to have some fictitious company logo put on, which isn't sticking properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nta786 View Post
    some blame must lie with UA if this is the case then- why use a sh*t 3rd party then for printing on the logo?
    Not if the club chose the third party and not UA

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    If this 3rd party has ****ed up X thousand shirts by putting on a crappy logo, who is fitting the bill for all those ruined shirts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100%Red&White View Post
    The fact that the shirt is on sale in Europe but without the logo may suggest that's how the shirts are supplied from UA. And, as has already been officially mentioned, the dispute is with a 'third party' so could mean they are responsible for adding the logo and something’s gone wrong there.

    That then probably means UA are not the problem, that scenario would also rule out any reason to do with the sponsor being dodgy. As the shirts have already arrived in Europe kind of suggests this 'third party' is probably Europe or UK based and an ongoing battle is now going on as to responsibility for any problem. Someone else mentioned there was also a cock-up with the sponsors logo last year too.

    Or they may just have decided the shirt is sh*te and ditched the lot!
    It would be really unusual to outsource the logo application as sports brands such as UA always have a list of nominated suppliers (this is to ensure that compliance issues are covered) !
    Even more unusual to have it done in Europe as the goods would have to be packed, shipped, unpacked, printed, repacked etc... all of which is both inconvenient and more expensive !!
    Still a cock up whichever way you look at it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100%Red&White View Post
    Not if the club chose the third party and not UA

    No way that UA would allow their brand to be tarnished by some random supplier suggested by amateurs !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    Why doesn't the club sell the shirts without the sponsor's logo? It's not as if they exist, and fans would prefer it.
    Because that's part of what kit manufacturers pay for, each and every fan becoming a billboard for their company. It's why the only shirt I wear is the 125 year anniversary kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    Because that's part of what kit manufacturers pay for, each and every fan becoming a billboard for their company. It's why the only shirt I wear is the 125 year anniversary kit.
    Unless you pull off a great PR trick like Paddy Power.

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    its fine, the season has started and the home/away kit will not be on sale. Hopeful that it will be for the united home game

    one of the keeper's shirts will be on sale though.


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    As it cant be worn for 10% of the season, will the price be reduced by 10%

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosaint View Post
    It would be really unusual to outsource the logo application as sports brands such as UA always have a list of nominated suppliers (this is to ensure that compliance issues are covered) !
    Even more unusual to have it done in Europe as the goods would have to be packed, shipped, unpacked, printed, repacked etc... all of which is both inconvenient and more expensive !!
    Still a cock up whichever way you look at it !!
    Maybe an unexpected consequence of Trump's trade war with China, avoiding the import and re-export into and out of the US. Just a thought.

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    It’s all UA problem when the 1st team shirts are washed they go pink and the ironed on sponsors logo peels off. Also the UA boots are incredibly uncomfortable.
    Now bearing in mind Under Armour started off supplying the US Army kit including bulletproof Kevlar vests etc that is pretty shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    So a dodgy sponsor then. What most people expected.
    If only there'd been some clue.

    Either shirt available online somewhere without sponsors? Think both kits would be cool without the awful logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Maybe an unexpected consequence of Trump's trade war with China, avoiding the import and re-export into and out of the US. Just a thought.
    Strange comment, the goods come from China to the EU where there is free movement (at the moment) so USA and Trump are not even remotely involved !
    Am I missing something ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    If this 3rd party has ****ed up X thousand shirts by putting on a crappy logo, who is fitting the bill for all those ruined shirts?
    The numpties that are buying them off eBay are

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    Anyone know if they are bringing out an infant version of the kit? Website only shows Men’s, Women’s and Yourh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosaint View Post
    Strange comment, the goods come from China to the EU where there is free movement (at the moment) so USA and Trump are not even remotely involved !
    Am I missing something ??
    It's not strange at all. US company imports its part finished product from China (or Vietnam), applies finishing touches and distributes to final market (UK). Something different has happened with Saints because of the stupid LD logo and its got ****ed up. It was just a theory as to why the **** up has happened, in a light hearted manner. Sorry if it has upset you in some way. A little over sensitive perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchenmike View Post




    My £9.61 shirt arrived from China today. Slight spelling error on the sleeve...
    That Under Armour logo doesn't look remotely realistic, and the club badge is a cheap copy too. No wonder they blur the logo on their eBay adverts. The supply issues mean there are going to be enough left over that SportsDirect will probably be flogging them off dirt cheap again by Christmas (assuming they get here by then).

    It's actually working out quite well for me timing-wise in terms of cashflow.

    The wife bought one of the pink keeper's shirts on eBay, loves it, cheaper than the club shop and barely different design (and as well as being authentic, it's labelled as the UA "sample" it was advertised as, too). Beat the rush in time for her and a mate to wear it in Burnley. I cba to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    It's not strange at all. US company imports its part finished product from China (or Vietnam), applies finishing touches and distributes to final market (UK). Something different has happened with Saints because of the stupid LD logo and its got ****ed up. It was just a theory as to why the **** up has happened, in a light hearted manner. Sorry if it has upset you in some way. A little over sensitive perhaps?
    I mean, he does know the industry pretty well...

    The two rumours I'd heard a month or two ago were that the red dye was running and the logo wouldn't stay on. As UA are happy to sell ad-free shirts the only place the red could be running is into the logo - I seem to recall we had a bit of a problem with that happening with one of the "white patch" sponsor shirts in the late 00s, it could be both things. I wouldn't be surprised if the workaround on home kit is to print directly onto the white and on the away to just print a different colour sponsor logo as they have (successfully) with the training kit. The third kit is probably available tomorrow because it's white and there are no colours to run into it OR they planned to produced them later knowing they could launch after the other two kits, and avoided the logo problem altogether by (again), printing the contrast colour straight onto the shirt without the surround.

    This is all speculation on my part and it'll be interesting(ish) to see whether the third shirt has a sponsor patch (like the ones in the club shop windows) or just the straight on print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    It's not strange at all. US company imports its part finished product from China (or Vietnam), applies finishing touches and distributes to final market (UK). Something different has happened with Saints because of the stupid LD logo and its got ****ed up. It was just a theory as to why the **** up has happened, in a light hearted manner. Sorry if it has upset you in some way. A little over sensitive perhaps?
    It didn't upset me at all, I just didn't understand where you were coming from !
    FYI it would not be possible for these goods to have been shipped via USA as they would not conform to the quota criteria either for USA or Europe. Panama based UA have a branch office in Hong Kong which does the processing and associated paperwork. My main point is still that it's extremely unlikely that the heat sealed logo embellishments would be applied to the shirts anywhere but in Asia for reasons of logistics and cost !
    I have done business with a number of sports brands (admittedly not UA) in this area and my judgement is based on experience, that's all !

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    Been in and bought a pink keeper shirt and third shirt this morning. Both have patches on for the sponsor logo.

    Oh and no £5 gift vouchers this season, £49.50 with a ST discount, £55 without.

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    If anyone has seen the training kit, the sponsors logo looks a million times better than the kits. Why the **** did no one think about doing it the same way, separate lettering rather than a slapped on piece of plastic. Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintwbu View Post
    If anyone has seen the training kit, the sponsors logo looks a million times better than the kits. Why the **** did no one think about doing it the same way, separate lettering rather than a slapped on piece of plastic. Unbelievable.
    Because the people who buy these things will, by and large, buy any old ****e we churn out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    Because the people who buy these things will, by and large, buy any old ****e we churn out.
    That is a disparaging and highly disrespectful comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faz View Post
    That is a disparaging and highly disrespectful comment.
    It's not wrong though. Many of the people who whinge about the shirt will buy it.

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    Anyone see Danso holding up the home shirt in his picture Anyone else notice?

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    I still don’t get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    I still don’t get it
    Me neither. Its our shirt with our sponsors logo on. Unless that is the point, I don't get the point.

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