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    Although going down is highly unlikely, 1 more point would be vital (from our remaining games) and tonight would be a good time to get it.
    That would put us 6 points clear of Cardiff with a vastly superior goal difference.
    They would then need to win 2 of their 3 games and then needing at least a point in the other.

    That is on the basis we only gain 1 more points from the last 4 games.....you never know

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    If there was a banker home win to add to accumulators, this is probably it. Just think though: a win and we're safe. Please god...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    If there was a banker home win to add to accumulators, this is probably it. Just think though: a win and we're safe. Please god...


    If your predictions were right we would have been relegated in February...

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    Hopefully we will win with a goal scored from a blatant handball that everyone but the ref and linesman sees....

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    The 'offside' goal and the handball still irritate me, hopefully we can get one over on them tonight. No Deeney is a big boost.

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    To the Players:

    Step up to the plate lads it is really important you deliver tonight. I know few of you are looking for a transfer to Watford but let's have a top six opponent mentality just for the fans for once.

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    Errant thought : notwithstanding Ralph's comments over the weekend, do you think he should give Austin a go, fight fire with fire, rough up their CBs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Errant thought : notwithstanding Ralph's comments over the weekend, do you think he should give Austin a go, fight fire with fire, rough up their CBs??
    Why are people portraying Watford as this big, bully boy, rough them up kind of team?

    They're anything but. They play great football, use the width of the pitch well and attack with purpose between the lines. They've got a focal point with Denney and a strong CB with Cathcart, but they're not this 'new Wimbledon' I've seen them referred to as.

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    Tough game for us, but really important to get something. If the last 3 games are anything to go by, it'll be 3-1 either way

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Errant thought : notwithstanding Ralph's comments over the weekend, do you think he should give Austin a go, fight fire with fire, rough up their CBs??
    In a word no! He has been terrible this year and is like a statue. His time is done.

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    Any positive result tonight sets Saturday up quite nicely with the incentive to finish the job and also give us the opportunity to finish the season top dogs on the south coast. That didn't look very likely a few weeks back.

    A few early robust challenges tonight to remind them they've got a cup final coming up may help the cause.

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    Heading down later, looking forward to this. Would be lovely to get the 3 points and all but guarantee safety. Still think a point could well be enough, and I'd certainly like to get it done sooner rather than later.

    Bit of a selection headache for Ralph as Armstrong and Lemina both looked good when they came on. Could be tempted to go for 4 at the back if Vestergaard isn't fit.

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    Gunn

    Valery
    Bednarek
    Yoshida
    Bertrand

    Hojbjerg
    Lemina

    JWP
    Armstrong

    Redmond
    Ings

    Always like the look of this on paper but really feel like we struggle without Romeu in the side. Wouldn't mind a 4312 set-up with JWP making way.

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    I have a spare ticket for the game at face value - can meet at the ground.

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    id quite like to see a 433 with lemina hojbjerg and Armstrong together. all have the energy to get up and down, then a front three of Redmond ings and sims.
    a bit harsh on jwp and romeau. but I could see this working quite well whilst also not being over run in midfield and whilst also giving plenty of options to attack

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpin4rizeal View Post
    id quite like to see a 433 with lemina hojbjerg and Armstrong together. all have the energy to get up and down, then a front three of Redmond ings and sims.
    a bit harsh on jwp and romeau. but I could see this working quite well whilst also not being over run in midfield and whilst also giving plenty of options to attack
    Will be amazed if Ings or Sims start, albeit for different reasons.

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    Is it controversial to say JWP has reverted to type the last few games after an uncharacteristic bit of good form?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Is it controversial to say JWP has reverted to type the last few games after an uncharacteristic bit of good form?
    Nah I'm with you on that. It was great to see him play well but I still don't think he gets into our best team right now if everyone's fit, let alone next season with hopeful reinforcements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Is it controversial to say JWP has reverted to type the last few games after an uncharacteristic bit of good form?
    I think the last few games he's been played in positions which show up his weaknesses - a lack of pace and a lack of physical strength. So, I think reverted to type is a bit harsh as he’s not playing in the position he was starting to get to grips with.

    Played further forward, he was actually becoming quite adept at being one of the first points of the press, by winning a tackle and playing a pass with a good weight. But further back in the team he gets exposed a lot more.

    He's got better in certain area's under Ralph as he's a tactical managers sort of player, but for me he's not yet at a level where you'll have the likes of Man City and all swooning over him. The goals in his recent games have just added marks to his performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    I think the last few games he's been played in positions which show up his weaknesses - a lack of pace and a lack of physical strength. So, I think reverted to type is a bit harsh as he’s not playing in the position he was starting to get to grips with.

    Played further forward, he was actually becoming quite adept at being one of the first points of the press, by winning a tackle and playing a pass with a good weight. But further back in the team he gets exposed a lot more.

    He's got better in certain area's under Ralph as he's a tactical managers sort of player, but for me he's not yet at a level where you'll have the likes of Man City and all swooning over him. The goals in his recent games have just added marks to his performances.
    Yeah I agree, its not really his fault as he has been shoe horned into different positions of late. Having said that the option to revert to type has always been there with JWP, hopefully Ralph has more about him than to let that happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Is it controversial to say JWP has reverted to type the last few games after an uncharacteristic bit of good form?
    He's slipped backwards imo. I'd take a fit and firing Lemina over JWP all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    No Deeney is a big boost.
    Yeah, this for me. Was strong when he came on at St Mary's.

    Point would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He's slipped backwards imo. I'd take a fit and firing Lemina over JWP all day long.
    Indeed. Despite being out for 4 months Lemina showed himself in the 45 mins he was on against Newcastle to be a far better option in that position than JWP.

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    Tonight I'd start with....

    Gunn; Valery Bednarek Vestergaard Yoshida Bertrand; Hojbjerg Romeu JWP; Redmond; Ings

    or if Valery & Vestergaard aren't making it...

    Gunn; Targett Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand; Hojbjerg Romeu JWP; Armstrong Redmond Ings

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    I reckon we'll lose this one but beat Bournemouth on Saturday. So, only another 4 days of consternation to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    To the Players:

    Step up to the plate lads it is really important you deliver tonight. I know few of you are looking for a transfer to Watford but let's have a top six opponent mentality just for the fans for once.
    really? who is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Although going down is highly unlikely, 1 more point would be vital (from our remaining games) and tonight would be a good time to get it.
    That would put us 6 points clear of Cardiff with a vastly superior goal difference.
    They would then need to win 2 of their 3 games and then needing at least a point in the other.

    That is on the basis we only gain 1 more points from the last 4 games.....you never know
    Been after that elusive 1 point since and including the Liverpool game so, would be nice to get it tonight.

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    We beat Wolves since Liverpool.

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    Stephens again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
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    Holy ****! I hope it's a flat back 4 and not Stephens in a 3 with JWP as wide right. That first half was a bloody shambles on Saturday!

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    if we play 3/5 at the back, we will probably struggle.
    when we play like that, we find it hard against compact sides who dominate the middle of the pitch and watford are probably the best at that.
    Also, take JwP out of where he is decent to a place where he is not.

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    FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    Holy ****! I hope it's a flat back 4 and not Stephens in a 3 with JWP as wide right. That first half was a bloody shambles on Saturday!
    must be 4-3-3.......mustn’t it ?

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    Ward-Prowse at RWB again and two right backs on the bench. Absolutely bizarre.

    Hope Ralph has a cunning plan up his sleeve, because that XI looks suspiciously like one picked by a manager who watched the Newcastle debacle and learned not a single thing.

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    Stephens. Manager needs to look at himself. Suicide.


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    A few useful subs there though. 90 minutes would be too much for Lemina, Ings and Valery all coming back from injury. Sims can come on when Watford are tired and a few are on yellow cards, which might give him a bit of protection.

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    Odd team selection.

    COYR.

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    Carlos Carvalhal all over again.

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    hoping for a 4-3-3, expecting a 3-5-2

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    Only explanation must be heís saving the A team for Bournemouth I guess, defence wise


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    Was Ralph watching the first half on Saturday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatlesaint View Post
    must be 4-3-3.......mustnít it ?
    Thatís my guess

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    Stephens is a bad omen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    Holy ****! I hope it's a flat back 4 and not Stephens in a 3 with JWP as wide right. That first half was a bloody shambles on Saturday!
    Hopefully RH learns the lesson from Saturday and swaps Bednarek back to the right of Yoshida, as the graphic might suggest.

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    Hope I'm wrong but it looks like 3 at the back with JWP as a wing back a position he is obviously not suited to as it requires pace to get up and down the line and the ability to tackle.

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    Not sure what to think about that. Pleased to see Armstrong and I'm assuming Ings, Lemina and Valery are not quite there in terms of fitness. Ramsay didn't look ready in the brief glimpses I've seen of him.

    The main thing for me is that he has dropped Sims. As good as he has looked personally, we have been swamped as a team whenever he has been playing. He has played exactly half of the last 3 games and we've conceded 5 of the 7 goals when he was on the pitch. Not what you need away from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintant View Post
    Hope I'm wrong but it looks like 3 at the back with JWP as a wing back a position he is obviously not suited to as it requires pace to get up and down the line and the ability to tackle.
    if we start with the same setup as Newcastle, it would be very weird considering how appalling the 1st half display was

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    Stephens. Oh dear.

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    PEH and Romeu are going to be absolutely cream crackered.

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