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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    No manager will succeed with that squad, the egos are running the show. Pogba is the worst, they need to ship him out ASAP. When he isn’t happy he just downs tools until the manager gets the boot.
    Oh I agree with Pogba without question, he thinks he's better than he is. His 'Brand' is bigger than his footballing ability.

    He'd probaby still get in at Madrid though, or somewhere like that. I'd see If i could throw that awful CB Jones in as well, but they've just offered him a new 4 year deal so that won't be happening. More crazy goal-faces for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Unlucky, but funny. They'll never get this close again, they'll never have a season this good again. Wouldn’t be surprised if they struggle to pick themselves up next season after this, whatever they say it will feel like an absolute gut wrench.

    97 points, +57 gd, and one defeat all season, but nothing to show for it. Couldn't have happened to a better bunch.
    Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season.

    It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that.

    It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_D View Post
    Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season.

    It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that.

    It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres.
    Mané’s second goal was offside yesterday too.

    Hilarious? The word is inadequate. I haven’t stopped laughing yet.

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    Hughton sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Hughton sacked.

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    Graeme Potter the bookies favourite..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Mané’s second goal was offside yesterday too.

    Hilarious? The word is inadequate. I haven’t stopped laughing yet.
    VAR will be interesting. I wonder if the ref bias to big clubs will still be prevalent in terms of how it is used, but if it is used fairly, I could imagine teams like liverpool will lose 6-9 points. Saints could gain 3-6 points. It will be nice to be able to play Watford on a level playing field too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashnats View Post
    VAR will be interesting. I wonder if the ref bias to big clubs will still be prevalent in terms of how it is used, but if it is used fairly, I could imagine teams like liverpool will lose 6-9 points. Saints could gain 3-6 points. It will be nice to be able to play Watford on a level playing field too...
    love your summing up...........its still down to different opinions as to how VAR works,fair or otherwise.Again its not the same persons opinion every game you play is it?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Hughton sacked.

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    Not really surprised, it's all gone a bit stale there for him.

    They don't have an amazing squad though, so it will be interesting to see who they can attract.

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    Not surprised at Brighton, given the football they play and the fact they nearly went down because of dreadful form the second half of the season.

    Potter would be an odd choice for me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_D View Post
    Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season.

    It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that.

    It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres.
    I think they will be a bit like Leicester. They won’t drop to 12th but psychologically and in terms of their luck in games and with injuries, it’s hard to see them keeping that kind of form up. That’s even assuming they keep their key players.

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    and it begins
    brighton accused of Racism over houghton.
    All very predictable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    and it begins
    brighton accused of Racism over houghton.
    All very predictable
    By whom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    By whom?
    Troy Townsend, whoever he may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    By whom?
    Troy Townsend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Window Cleaner View Post
    Troy Townsend, whoever he may be.
    Ahh, right, ta.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ing-now-worse/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...g-Hughton.html

    For me, this sacking clearly has nothing to do with skin colour / racism. As an anti-racism campaigner why hasn't Mr Townsend waited to see who is appointed. Who knows perhaps the Seagulls are about to unveil a black / female / both manager. Who knows - either way, this was clearly a footballing decision and nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    and it begins
    brighton accused of Racism over houghton.
    All very predictable
    Ridiculous and all very disappointing. Haven't we as a country got past the stage of highlighting somebody's ethnicity instead of their capabilities? Every time that some idiot tries to make a differentiation based on skin colour or physical appearance they are perpetuating outdated stereotypes. Such people are the worst type of racist.

    Hughton was a decent player and a decent manager, not the greatest but always gave his best. He won't be the first manager to lose his job after this past season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Ahh, right, ta.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ing-now-worse/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...g-Hughton.html

    For me, this sacking clearly has nothing to do with skin colour / racism. As an anti-racism campaigner why hasn't Mr Townsend waited to see who is appointed. Who knows perhaps the Seagulls are about to unveil a black / female / both manager. Who knows - either way, this was clearly a footballing decision and nothing else.
    And John Barnes now weighing in. Seems that some think that you just have to have a regulation dose of BAME (whatever that means) people in football management. Nothing to do with ability or results or whatever you've just got to have the right number (or more)...

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    What the f*ck is racist about sacking a manager who's won 4 games in all competitions since the end of december and almost got his side relegated? It really doesn't help anyone making claims like that, all it does is demeans the actual efforts to get rid of racism from the game.

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    I'm just waiting for Paul Ince and Sol Campbel to pipe up now.

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    I think the firing of Hughes was racist against the Welsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker View Post
    I think the firing of Hughes was racist against the Welsh
    That would be xenophobic, not racist. Racism is discrimination due to ethnicity, xenophobia due to nationality.

    Houghton sets his teams up in a way that makes them hard to break down but also pretty dull to watch. That, combined with a string of poor results, is the reason he was sacked, not the colour of his skin.

    I just wish Burnley would sack Dyche, his brand of football is even worse to watch.

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    3 wins in 23, so he should keep his job because he is black? I'd understand if he'd got them top half and got sacked but we ditched Hughes, Pelligrino and Puel after dreadful runs of form, are we discriminating against the Welsh, Argentinian and French?

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    Darren Lewis

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    Respect for Hughton isn't praising his class and dignity. Respect is giving him the chance to build on the work he has done taking an average squad into the top division. When players like Danny Rose say there is no point taking your badges, here's an example of the reasons why.

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    Oh for goodness sake.

    Here is another, Barnes is out.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-chris-hughton

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    Has Danny Baker posted anything yet?

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    Brighton's squad is utter garbage. He made Glenn Murray seem decent.

    I'd actually like to see what Hughton could do with a bit of backing at PL level.

    That said, I don't think there is any conscious or unconscious bias in any way related to this decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Darren Lewis

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    Respect for Hughton isn't praising his class and dignity. Respect is giving him the chance to build on the work he has done taking an average squad into the top division. When players like Danny Rose say there is no point taking your badges, here's an example of the reasons why.
    Did Rose really say there’s no point in taking his badges? Good grief, what a plank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    What the f*ck is racist about sacking a manager who's won 4 games in all competitions since the end of december and almost got his side relegated? It really doesn't help anyone making claims like that, all it does is demeans the actual efforts to get rid of racism from the game.
    Exactly.

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    John Barnes: "Until we change our perception of a BAME person's capabilities, in all walks of life, we will be given less opportunities and less time to succeed."

    Who on earth is he talking about when he says "we"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    Has Danny Baker posted anything yet?
    Nope. But he's out of work so might fancy his chances of getting the gig....!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    3 wins in 23, so he should keep his job because he is black? I'd understand if he'd got them top half and got sacked but we ditched Hughes, Pelligrino and Puel after dreadful runs of form, are we discriminating against the Welsh, Argentinian and French?
    Presumably that means 4 wins in 24? I would look up there record but I can’t be arsed.

    It doesn’t sound so bad when you put it like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    John Barnes: "Until we change our perception of a BAME person's capabilities, in all walks of life, we will be given less opportunities and less time to succeed."

    Who on earth is he talking about when he says "we"?

    Ah! So he’s after the job too

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    I do think there is an issue with a lack of opportunities for BAME people (is that the right term?), but the problem is when people complain about this sacking and say it's to do with his skin colour, they undermine the actual issues because everyone dismisses it (rightly) as crying wolf.

    Hughton only seems to want his teams to play a certain way - he set them up not to lose at home to US for goodness sake - and there comes a point when fans want more than just surviving. After two seasons it's hard to see how Brighton are going to be anything other than a bottom 6 side with Hughton there. Of course if a new manager gets relegated then it will be billed as a mistake, but I don't blame them for rolling the dice on improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    Brighton's squad is utter garbage. He made Glenn Murray seem decent.

    I'd actually like to see what Hughton could do with a bit of backing at PL level.

    That said, I don't think there is any conscious or unconscious bias in any way related to this decision.
    I heard this morning he had spent a considerable amount of money

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    Don't see what anyone's issue is regarding firing Hughton - he was the same at Brighton as he's been in all his other jobs: a relatively competent, defensive manager who retreats into a narrow 10-0-0 at the first sign of trouble.

    Eventually clubs (and their supporters) begin to wonder if there's more to football than simply grim, joyless survival.

    He'll get another gig and it'll go the same way.

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    This is amazing , city players singing their version of Allez,Allez Allez ! https://talksport.com/football/54307...box=1557855714 Read what the lyrics were

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo View Post
    This is amazing , city players singing their version of Allez,Allez Allez ! https://talksport.com/football/54307...box=1557855714 Read what the lyrics were
    this calls for an investigation, candles and a petition!

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    If Villa do go up, they’ll have to defend better than this next season.

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    West Brom down to ten, going into extra time. Chris Brunt, stupid second yellow.

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    Switched over to that Chernobyl drama instead of watching E.T. Before my time but good grief that accident was grim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    and it begins
    brighton accused of Racism over houghton.
    All very predictable
    And so it begins, the usual Tommeh defenders, complaining about complaints of racism.

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    The problem I see is, that if owners are going to be accused of racism (for it is they who sack the manager) then they might feel that it is just not worth the **** thrown at them, so not employ BAME in the first place. Darren Moore was intereviewed by the pious and sycophantic Jim White, and rather caught White off guard. Said the opportunities for BAME candidates were there, and not an issue. Also said that when fired, he was the same person who was employed ie skin colour not the issue.

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    At least we won’t have to watch another West Brom yo-yo season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    If Villa do go up, they’ll have to defend better than this next season.

    Neither side looked good enough to survive in the PL in their current format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    Brighton's squad is utter garbage. He made Glenn Murray seem decent.

    I'd actually like to see what Hughton could do with a bit of backing at PL level.

    That said, I don't think there is any conscious or unconscious bias in any way related to this decision.
    They spent £65m last summer! That's a decent wedge and more than quite a few teams including us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    this calls for an investigation, candles and a petition!
    it certainly upset someone...

    Classless Manchester City players should be ashamed of sick Liverpool chant

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/prem...cid=spartandhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    it certainly upset someone...

    Classless Manchester City players should be ashamed of sick Liverpool chant

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/prem...cid=spartandhp
    Dippers are saying they're singing about Hilsborough and matey who got a kicking by the Roma fans !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Window Cleaner View Post
    Neither side looked good enough to survive in the PL in their current format.
    Good. The crappier the promoted teams are, the better our chances of survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Oh for goodness sake.

    Here is another, Barnes is out.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-chris-hughton
    "Until we get rid of racial bias, sexism, homophobia in society, it will exist in all walks of society.

    Thata an amazing quote. Seriously though why are people interviewing Barnes about it? If I were Houghton I'd be insulted that people have to continually refer to my colour and interview other black people about me who may have absolutely nothing in common with each other other than the colour of their skin. It's pathetic.

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