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Saints 27th on the 131 year League Table


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Stumbled upon this little nugget of Footie trivia:

 

Someone with time on their hands has put together a League table covering 131 years of the First Division and Premier League (I know its hard to believe the football was around before football was invented in 1992).

Saints sit at 27th, in the top half of a 65 team league. An interesting little read to while away the tea break, poor old bottom club Glossop North End 'The Hill Men' propping up the league.

With the hood right up on the anorak the dynasty behind Arsenal for many years came from the money made in the cotton mills of Glossop probably 131 years ago.

 

http://www.sportbible.com/football/reactions-news-take-a-bow-the-all-time-premier-league-and-first-division-table-is-fascinating-20190430

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Interesting, surprised Pompey are so high on the list, still behind us mind but I assume most of their points were when Pathe news were still doing the filming

 

And that's all that matters.:lol:

 

Wondered how old it was but Bournemouth on 150 games makes it easy to check it's completely up to date.

 

Biggest surprise for me was Middlesbrough in 19th. Never would include them in a list of "sleeping giants", more of an "also ran" and their trophy count must be similar to ours yet they've been in the top division about half as long again as we have.

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And that's all that matters.:lol:

 

Wondered how old it was but Bournemouth on 150 games makes it easy to check it's completely up to date.

 

Biggest surprise for me was Middlesbrough in 19th. Never would include them in a list of "sleeping giants", more of an "also ran" and their trophy count must be similar to ours yet they've been in the top division about half as long again as we have.

 

Same! I think their League Cup win under McClaren was their first ever trophy.

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If I read this correctly the table makes no allowance for the League in which the games were played

 

I must dig out a table I have somewhere where teams were given 92 points for winning the top division and one point for coming bottom of the 4th tier

 

This was a bit bit representative in my view

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If I read this correctly the table makes no allowance for the League in which the games were played

 

I must dig out a table I have somewhere where teams were given 92 points for winning the top division and one point for coming bottom of the 4th tier

 

This was a bit bit representative in my view

I read it as only for games in the top league whatever it was called at the time over the 131 year period, I thinks thats covered in the text, pub quiz question is which teams have never been relegated from the top flight. The answer use to be Everton, Arsenal & Coventry but they buggered that up under WGS.

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We drop to 30th, below the Skates, for points per game (yes, I'm a sad statto who's just spent a few minutes of his lunch break doing this):

 

Team Games Pts Pts/Game Rank

Man Utd 3775 6356 1.68 1

Liverpool 4132 6833 1.65 2

Arsenal 4131 6711 1.62 3

Tottenham 3392 5049 1.49 4

Leeds 2060 3061 1.49 5

Chelsea 3395 5029 1.48 6

Everton 4516 6642 1.47 7

Aston Villa 4070 5897 1.45 8

Man City 3617 5220 1.44 9

Newcastle 3462 4848 1.40 10

Preston 1720 2403 1.40 11

Wolves 2458 3429 1.40 12

Burnley 2169 2996 1.38 13

Sheff Wed. 2582 3552 1.38 14

Sunderland 3340 4560 1.37 15

Blackburn 2720 3702 1.36 16

Ipswich 1084 1471 1.36 17

Hudds 1334 1808 1.36 18

Nott'm F. 2178 2949 1.35 19

Sheff Utd 2356 3173 1.35 20

Derby 2468 3303 1.34 21

Bolton 2802 3692 1.32 22

Wimbledon 554 729 1.32 23

West Brom 3108 4065 1.31 24

Brentford 210 274 1.30 25

Blackpool 1172 1527 1.30 26

Portsmouth 1356 1765 1.30 27

West Ham 2470 3127 1.27 28

Bury 804 1017 1.26 29

So'ton 1680 2123 1.26 30

Cardiff 704 887 1.26 31

Middlesbro 2438 3065 1.26 32

Charlton 1050 1318 1.26 33

Oldham 484 606 1.25 34

Bradford 468 582 1.24 35

Leicester 2087 2570 1.23 36

Stoke 2372 2917 1.23 37

Luton 658 807 1.23 38

Grimsby 488 598 1.23 39

Q.P.R. 936 1146 1.22 40

Bristol C. 358 436 1.22 41

Coventry 1390 1686 1.21 42

Swansea 350 422 1.21 43

Bradfrd PA 122 147 1.20 44

Notts Co. 1068 1276 1.19 45

Birmingham 2306 2755 1.19 46

Norwich 1016 1213 1.19 47

Watford 476 565 1.19 48

Bournem'th 150 174 1.16 49

Fulham 1034 1178 1.14 50

Accrington 122 138 1.13 51

C Palace 756 830 1.10 52

Brighton 242 264 1.09 53

Wigan 304 331 1.09 54

Reading 114 119 1.04 55

Millwall 76 79 1.04 56

Nrthamptn 42 43 1.02 57

Carlisle 42 41 0.98 58

Oxford 124 119 0.96 59

Barnsley 38 35 0.92 60

Hull C. 190 171 0.90 61

Darwen 56 41 0.73 62

Swindon 42 30 0.71 63

Glossop NE 34 22 0.65 64

Leyton O. 42 27 0.64 65

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If I read this correctly the table makes no allowance for the League in which the games were played

 

I must dig out a table I have somewhere where teams were given 92 points for winning the top division and one point for coming bottom of the 4th tier

 

This was a bit bit representative in my view

 

There was a table a few years ago that covered all 4divisions where we were almost bottom (think Torquay were bottom), it probably only included the 92 teams in the top 4 divisions. Guessing our 3 seasons in L1/CCC may have helped a bit.

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If I read this correctly the table makes no allowance for the League in which the games were played

 

I must dig out a table I have somewhere where teams were given 92 points for winning the top division and one point for coming bottom of the 4th tier

 

This was a bit bit representative in my view

 

There was a table a few years ago that covered all 4divisions where we were almost bottom (think Torquay were bottom), it probably only included the 92 teams in the top 4 divisions. Guessing our 3 seasons in L1/CCC may have helped a bit.

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If I read this correctly the table makes no allowance for the League in which the games were played

 

I must dig out a table I have somewhere where teams were given 92 points for winning the top division and one point for coming bottom of the 4th tier

 

This was a bit bit representative in my view

 

These are just results for the top division at the time, either the Prem League or old division 1. I thought the same as you at first because of the wording but if you scroll down the likes of Barnsley are on 38 games played thus showing that it's just top division (otherwise it'd be higher because they'd have played in the champ/div1 the year before and after at least).

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These are just results for the top division at the time, either the Prem League or old division 1. I thought the same as you at first because of the wording but if you scroll down the likes of Barnsley are on 38 games played thus showing that it's just top division (otherwise it'd be higher because they'd have played in the champ/div1 the year before and after at least).

 

Spot on my Canadian friend

Results from top division since 1888.

During this time Saints were running away with the Southern League most years which is hardly ever mentioned.

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I read it as only for games in the top league whatever it was called at the time over the 131 year period, I thinks thats covered in the text, pub quiz question is which teams have never been relegated from the top flight. The answer use to be Everton, Arsenal & Coventry but they buggered that up under WGS.

 

Everton were promoted to the top flight in 1955 I think, so they must have been relegated to get promoted if you see what I mean....?

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