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    4-2-2-2

    Gunn
    Valery
    Bertrand
    Vestergaard
    Yoshida (or new cb)
    Hojberg (c)
    Romeo (or new cm)
    Redmond
    Djenepo
    Ings
    Che

    Subs:

    McCarthy
    Hoedt
    Slattery
    JWP
    Obafemi
    Long

    Prediction: 3-1 Southanpton (Che, Ings and Hoedt off the bench)

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    Yoshida is our first choice centre back at the moment.

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    Bednarek?

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    very early for a build up thread, should have waited after Koln game.

    if we make any new signings after that Koln game, then I highly doubt they will play, so reckon the first 11 for that game will only be anyone we have in our squad as of today.

    I think we will play 3 at the back, and look to counter attack with the pace of Redmond/Adams and Ings in the number 10 (and dare I say it, Long (who as a 2nd half sub will be key))

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    Still worry about the middle being light. Wanyama next to Romeu and that team looks good.

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    never too early for a build up thread I'm desperate for the new season to begin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    Bednarek?
    Injured

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    Looks like we are almost sold out too

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    JWP and Romeu seem to have picked up injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick75Sfc View Post
    Looks like we are almost sold out too
    Couple of thousand sold, couple of hundred left, will sell out early.

    Pre-season optimism but good feeling about coming season for a lot of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    Still worry about the middle being light. Wanyama next to Romeu and that team looks good.
    Wanyama left 3 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick75Sfc View Post
    4-2-2-2

    Gunn
    Valery
    Bertrand
    Vestergaard
    Yoshida (or new cb)
    Hojberg (c)
    Romeo (or new cm)
    Redmond
    Djenepo
    Ings
    Che
    No way they will all start and I'd be surprised if Djenepo gets on the pitch at all for a fixture like Burnley away. It will likely be JWP or Armstrong in his place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    Yoshida is our first choice centre back at the moment.

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    I agree with you. Any new CB should be to replace Vestergaard rather than Yoshida or Bednarek.

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    Vestergaard's lack of pace is the main reason we needed 3 central defenders rather than 2 last season. Yoshida, Bednarek and hopefully any new central defender should be capable of playing in a back 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alehouseboys View Post
    Couple of thousand sold, couple of hundred left, will sell out early.

    Pre-season optimism but good feeling about coming season for a lot of us.
    Absolutely. Not only will most our away allocations sell out but I predict this will be the 12th of our 12 top flight seasons at St Mary's when our home gates average over 30,000, which considering our capacity isn't much more than that is pretty good. For comparison, Pompey, who had a capacity in excess of 50,000 for much longer than that, only ever averaged home gates over 30,000 for 7 seasons, the last one being 66 years ago.

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    Can't wait for us to get started to be honest, no matter what happens this season, I think we can all be confident that Ralph is at least going to play a good attacking brand of fast football. Got tickets for Burnley today, not many left, can't see them playing anything else but their dour, hard to break down style again this season. Old boys coming back to haunt us card, beware the Jay Rodriques and Jack Cork effect...! Thank God Crouchie retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Can't wait for us to get started to be honest, no matter what happens this season, I think we can all be confident that Ralph is at least going to play a good attacking brand of fast football. Got tickets for Burnley today, not many left, can't see them playing anything else but their dour, hard to break down style again this season. Old boys coming back to haunt us card, beware the Jay Rodriques and Jack Cork effect...! Thank God Crouchie retired.

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    Would say we’ve sold just over 1,500 so far, three blocks currently on sale although 2 of these nearly sold out, but 4 other blocks have yet to go on sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick75Sfc View Post
    Romeo (or new cm)
    Juliet?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    No way they will all start and I'd be surprised if Djenepo gets on the pitch at all for a fixture like Burnley away. It will likely be JWP or Armstrong in his place.
    Djenepo still looks very raw to me, I can't see him getting a starting place from the off.

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    Doubt Djenepo will be starting any games soon, I think he's going to need a few months to get up to speed unless we have some injuries. If he's fit, JWP should be starting after an excellent second half to last season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    Vestergaard's lack of pace is the main reason we needed 3 central defenders rather than 2 last season. Yoshida, Bednarek and hopefully any new central defender should be capable of playing in a back 4.
    Agreed, but against a hoof-ball team like Burnley I think he needs to play, if we go with two CBs I'd choose Vest for height and Yoshi for his pace.

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    I wouldn't be surprised at all if the starting eleven and shape is the same as we saw against Feyenoord. For me, Romeo is a big miss. Even with five at the back we look vulnerable.

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    9 days to go

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    Revised team .. subject to transfers:

    Gunn
    Valery
    Bertrand
    Maya
    Vest
    Jan
    JWP
    Hojberg
    Adam's
    Redmond
    Ings

    Bench:

    Forster
    Stephens
    Romeu
    Obafemi
    Long
    Boufal
    Cedric

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    Revised team .. subject to transfers:

    Gunn
    Valery
    Bertrand
    Maya
    Vest
    Jan
    JWP
    Hojberg
    Adam's
    Redmond
    Ings

    Bench:

    Forster
    Stephens
    Romeu
    Obafemi
    Long
    Boufal
    Cedric

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    So light in midfield and pressing won't help all that much as Burnley are happy to whack it long anyway.

    Would gladly take a point.

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    I hope Ralph doesn’t try to shoe horn JWP into the side as the second deep midfielder. We will be over run by teams for a past time.

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    A win on Saturday could comfortably lift us out of the bottom half.

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    This has 0-0 written all over it (genuinely)

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    This has 0-0 written all over it (genuinely)
    they won't get a nil

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    Burnley Preparations likely affected by Maguire to Utd as Leicester are heavily being linked with a move for Tarkowski as a replacement.

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    Gunn
    Valery Bednarek Vestergaard Yoshida Bertrand
    Romeu Hojbjerg
    Redmond
    Ings Adams

    Difficult to leave out JWP and kind of expecting him to leave Romeu out, but would personally play him.

    Could flex it by dropping one of the forwards for JWP.

    Wouldn't be surprised if Ralph played Stephens rather than Yoshida tbh, which would be a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Gunn
    Valery Bednarek Vestergaard Yoshida Bertrand
    Romeu Hojbjerg
    Redmond
    Ings Adams

    Difficult to leave out JWP and kind of expecting him to leave Romeu out, but would personally play him.

    Could flex it by dropping one of the forwards for JWP.

    Wouldn't be surprised if Ralph played Stephens rather than Yoshida tbh, which would be a shame.
    Like you say harsh to leave out JWP but then unless Burnley switch to playing Barcelona style football, he is likely to be getting a crick in his neck as he watches the ball sail repeatedly over his head.

    Think Ralph already has Yoshida written in Biro on his team sheet, he knows his value to defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Johnson View Post
    Burnley Preparations likely affected by Maguire to Utd as Leicester are heavily being linked with a move for Tarkowski as a replacement.
    Could be good timing for us.

    Their transfers this summer have been pretty uninspiring. Confident we can get at least a point here. Three would be nice but rarely do that on the first game of the season!

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    got a 1-0 defeat to a 92nd minute Ashley Barnes winner written all over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersonic View Post
    got a 1-0 defeat to a 92nd minute Ashley Barnes winner written all over it
    OR : got a 1-0 defeat to a 92nd minute Jay Rodriguez winner written all over it

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    I can't believe we're going into the first game of the season without a new CB (he says, unaware of the last-minute cunning plan that will shock everyone)

    Oh, wait a minute, yes I can, it's like every other window

    The outscoring the opposition tactic seems quite high risk, and not something we've pulled off for a while now, but in Ralph we trust

    COYS

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersonic View Post
    got a 1-0 defeat to a 92nd minute Ashley Barnes winner written all over it
    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    OR : got a 1-0 defeat to a 92nd minute Jay Rodriguez winner written all over it
    Or got a 0 - 1 win to a 92nd Danny Ings winner written all over it.

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    No, you'll only see that on the Burnley boards..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Or got a 0 - 1 win to a 92nd Danny Ings winner written all over it.
    You think Ings will make it to 90mins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Or got a 0 - 1 win to a 92nd Danny Ings winner written all over it.
    Willing to bet you 100 Ings will not score in Burnley match if you are up for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErwinK1961 View Post
    You think Ings will make it to 90mins?
    theres no way he will score a 92nd min winner unless he comes off the bench.

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    Anyone know if Ralph was back at staplewood today? They usually post lots of pics of training during the week. Nothing at all so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saints-til-i-die View Post
    Anyone know if Ralph was back at staplewood today? They usually post lots of pics of training during the week. Nothing at all so far.
    2 days off after a game which means they start training on Tuesday not Monday.
    You therefore won’t see any pics today.

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    For those making the journey apparently we’re in the privileged position of being the first away side to visit after renovation of the away end this summer , exciting times

    https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/...s-stand-seats/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErwinK1961 View Post
    You think Ings will make it to 90mins?
    Must admit, that was always the obvious flaw in my plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    Willing to bet you 100 Ings will not score in Burnley match if you are up for it?
    Wrong bloke mate, you're after Heisenberg, he's the resident "cheeky side bet" merchant. Thanks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    Willing to bet you 100 Ings will not score in Burnley match if you are up for it?
    What a pr1ck

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    2 days off after a game which means they start training on Tuesday not Monday.
    You therefore won’t see any pics today.
    Do they always have two days off after a game? I could’ve sworn they are usually in training on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    What a pr1ck
    You should know! Well picked avatar btw. Just keep your nose out where it doesn't belong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saints-til-i-die View Post
    Do they always have two days off after a game? I could’ve sworn they are usually in training on Monday.
    Definitely not if they have been naughty boys and lost on a Saturday with a major brain fart involved

    Maybe having had a busy month of pre season - its got to the stage where rest is just as as good as training before ramping it back up for the weekend.

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