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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache View Post
    Playing catch up here - Bertrand on the naughty step??
    Allegedly, he was dropped by Ralph after having a hissy fit at being subbed off against Liverpool.

    Allegedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    On the assumption that Redmond is out for the foreseeable future and Bertrand is still on the naughty step....

    ---------------------------------- Gunn -------------------------------------

    ----------- Bednarek ----------- Danso -------------- Yoshida ------------

    Valery ------------------------------------------------------------ Hojbjerg

    ----------------- Ward-Prowse --------------- Romeu ---------------------

    ---- Djnepo --------------------- Adams ---------------------- Boufal ----

    Subs: McCarthy, Cedric, Vestergard, Armstrong, Long, Ings, Obefemi
    Quite like this side but would prefer hojbjerg in the centre to try keep Pogba more quiet,, he might have to much athleticism for jwp and Romeau..
    I’d also play Ings over Adams atm just think Ings has offered more overall better closing down better build up play creating more his own chances and for others, Adams has been fairly anonymous bar missing couple of odd chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Both goals vs Brighton came when Saints were not playing 4222. It was a 3 central defender system for both goals.
    Thanks, my first MLG of the season .

    Thanks for the clarification tho

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    This will be the game Adams scores in, maybe more than once. And we'll win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfp1 View Post
    This will be the game Adams scores in, maybe more than once. And we'll win.
    Hope so I've had him in my fantasy team since week 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfp1 View Post
    This will be the game Adams scores in, maybe more than once. And we'll win.
    Absolutely shocking against Brighton. Barely looked like a footballer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Allegedly, he was dropped by Ralph after having a hissy fit at being subbed off against Liverpool.

    Allegedly.
    But those of us that claim he has an attitude problem have always been shouted down....

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    I know I said this last week, but surely Jakey Vokins is given a chance. He looked more than ready in preseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteCampbell View Post
    I know I said this last week, but surely Jakey Vokins is given a chance. He looked more than ready in preseason.
    You'd have thought so, but his ommission from the squad Vs Fulham doesn't tally with Ralph believing he's "ready"? Would surely have been the ideal opportunity to give him game time with the senior squad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    You'd have thought so, but his ommission from the squad Vs Fulham doesn't tally with Ralph believing he's "ready"? Would surely have been the ideal opportunity to give him game time with the senior squad?
    Maybe it was more important to experiment with PEH at left back. He looked good there, at least defensively, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's used in that way again.

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    Bertrand shown in the training photos from yesterday so hopefully he plays. Can’t now be messing about with the fullback position and weaken midfield in the process.

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    2-0 on Saturday! Danso helps to keep a clean sheet and Ings makes one goal out of 1 to 1 against ManUs goalie ...

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    Would go..

    -------------------------Gunn
    --------------Bednarek Danso Yoshida----------------
    Valery------------------Romeu---------------Bertrand
    ------------------Hojbjerg-------JWP-------------------
    -------------------------Boufal--------------------------
    --------------------------Ings-------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Allegedly, he was dropped by Ralph after having a hissy fit at being subbed off against Liverpool.

    Allegedly.
    Then we're cutting our nose off to spite our face. He is our only decent LB now Targett has gone. Who is the back up? Vokins? McQueen? We can't go on with make-do LB in Hojberg/Djenepo.
    Get in the office together, have a coffee and sort it out, rather than put him on the naughty step. That's man management.

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    Redmond out for 2-3 weeks and Djenepo out with a muscle injury.

    That changes things then..

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    Quote Originally Posted by saints-cris View Post
    Djenepo out with a muscle injury
    Bugger

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    I'd guess that leaves us with something like

    Gunn
    Valery Danso Bednarek Vestergaard/Yoshida Bertrand (?)
    Hojbjerg Romeu
    Boufal JWP
    Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by saints-cris View Post
    Redmond out for 2-3 weeks and Djenepo out with a muscle injury.

    That changes things then..
    Absolutely golden chance for Boufal to shine.
    Just as well there’s an international break next week

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    If thats true then that is very annoying as with those two we had a chance of beating them - without, well...

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    If we go three at the back, surely it has to be Danso Bednarek and Yoshida? Vestegaard way too slow and they're unlikely to be playing high balls into the box, Hoedt and Stephens not good enough. Someone needs their head inspecting if it's any other back three.

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    Given injuries I would go for:

    Gunn

    Valery
    Danso
    Bednarek
    Bertrand

    Hojbjerg
    Romeu

    JWP
    Boufal

    Ings
    Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Given injuries I would go for:

    Gunn

    Valery
    Danso
    Bednarek
    Bertrand

    Hojbjerg
    Romeu

    JWP
    Boufal

    Ings
    Adams
    Bang on. Absolutely what I would go with.

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    Djenepo and Redmond are big misses. United are vulnerable against pace, so much so that I'd even think about playing Long.

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    I'd be tempted to drop JWP, he hasn't started the season that we'll even his set pieces have been off, and stick Armstrong in the team for more pace on the counter especially with Redmond out.

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    If Obafemi is fit and we are wanting for pace we could play:

    Gunn

    Valery Danso Bednarek Bertrand

    Romeu Hoj

    Boufal Ings Obafemi

    Adams

    in a fluid 4231.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWar View Post
    If Obafemi is fit and we are wanting for pace we could play:

    Gunn

    Valery Danso Bednarek Bertrand

    Romeu Hoj

    Boufal Ings Obafemi

    Adams

    in a fluid 4231.
    According to RH, Obafemi us very doubtful.

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    Is Bertrand back fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    According to RH, Obafemi us very doubtful.

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    So that's 3 of our forward players out injured following the Fulham game then. Great

    I thought it was reported Obafemi only had cramp. Is he even capable of playing 90 minutes without getting crocked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Is he even capable of playing 90 minutes without getting crocked?
    Didn't Ralph describe him as an F1 car, needs a lot of care and warming up to hit top speed and is liable to break at any moment.

    I am sure I read an article saying that its something to do with his body make up or something. Can;t find it right now, but I am not sure he is quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Given injuries I would go for:

    Gunn

    Valery
    Danso
    Bednarek
    Bertrand

    Hojbjerg
    Romeu

    JWP
    Boufal

    Ings
    Adams
    I'd play Cedric rather than Valery against United, otherwise with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWar View Post
    If Obafemi is fit and we are wanting for pace we could play:

    Gunn

    Valery Danso Bednarek Bertrand

    Romeu Hoj

    Boufal Ings Obafemi

    Adams

    in a fluid 4231.
    JWP will play. Banker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Given injuries I would go for:

    Gunn

    Valery
    Danso
    Bednarek
    Bertrand

    Hojbjerg
    Romeu

    JWP
    Boufal

    Ings
    Adams
    I would also go for this team.

    Redmond will be a big loss, everything good offensively seems to go through him. Djenepo would have been my pick to replace him for this game as well. Big opportunity for Boufal to impress, but I'm not sure what we will get from him.

    With Redmond I fancied us to push them close. Think we will lack the cutting edge going forward and lose 0-2. Hope I'm wrong, I live near Manchester and would love it if we beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    So that's 3 of our forward players out injured following the Fulham game then. Great

    I thought it was reported Obafemi only had cramp. Is he even capable of playing 90 minutes without getting crocked?
    TBF given the draw I don't mind that we played a strong team against Fulham

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    Get Cedric on the free-kicks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Given injuries I would go for:

    Gunn

    Valery
    Danso
    Bednarek
    Bertrand

    Hojbjerg
    Romeu

    JWP
    Boufal

    Ings
    Adams
    Agree with this line up. COYR

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    Confirmed that Redmond djenpo & obbafemi are all out, and who are our quality back ups for these players in our new RH streamlined team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Confirmed that Redmond djenpo & obbafemi are all out, and who are our quality back ups for these players in our new RH streamlined team?

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    Shane Long and Stuart Armstrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Shane Long and Stuart Armstrong
    The team's not going to recover from that injury

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    Is Bertie fit not seen him any photos today?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Is Bertie fit not seen him any photos today?


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    Thrown another hissy fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Is Bertie fit not seen him any photos today?


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    RH said he trained yesterday and today but didnt seem enthusiastic about picking him for Saturday.

    Came across a bit weird/evasive IMO.

    Expecting Danso or Cedric at LB personally, something has gone on with RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Confirmed that Redmond djenpo & obbafemi are all out, and who are our quality back ups for these players in our new RH streamlined team?

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    How many players in the same position do you expect us to have? The squad is already bloated as it is, and Boufal, Obafemi and Djenepo were already not in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    How many players in the same position do you expect us to have? The squad is already bloated as it is, and Boufal, Obafemi and Djenepo were already not in the team.
    Exactly this.

    We effectively have Redmond out of our normal XI and either Armstrong or Boufal to replace him. Djenepo and Obafemi are usually bench options anyway.

    It might mean we actually have the chance to put an u23 on the bench for once alongside Long and either Boufal or Armstrong, whichever of the two misses out on starting.

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    Martial and Shaw out injured for United, for what it's worth.

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    2 nil saints Adams and Ings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    RH said he trained yesterday and today but didnt seem enthusiastic about picking him for Saturday.

    Came across a bit weird/evasive IMO.

    Expecting Danso or Cedric at LB personally, something has gone on with RB.
    Bit concerning if this is another senior player out of contention. Our defensive qualities aren't really good enough to afford having the likes of Bertrand kicking his heels on the sidelines.

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    Was feeling confident before heard Redz, Djenepo and Oba are all out. Now feeling 1-1 would be a cracking result.

    Ings inside the 6 yard box for us, Pogba for them.

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    Looking at the training photos N'Lundulu was with the first team yesterday, wonder if he will get a seat on the bench with Redmond, Djenepo, and Obafemi missing. In the U23 games I have seen with him playing he looks a tricky customer, quick with it.
    Looks like Elyounoussi was in the training photos too, from what I have seen of him so far, if both are on the bench I would hope N'Lundulu is higher up Ralphs rankings.

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    How delightful we have Mike "look at me" Dean on the whistle for this one - and Michael Oliver is the VAR official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Boy Saint View Post
    How delightful we have Mike "look at me" Dean on the whistle for this one - and Michael Oliver is the VAR official.
    TBF, when I saw who was on the whistle and VAR last week at Brighton I thought we were in trouble but....

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