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    Saw comments on the Forster and Reed threads about how they're getting on so far and wondered whether this was a sensible thread to keep it all together? Think there was one last season.

    In particular wondering if anyone can update on Tyreke Johnson so far? I see Woking are top of the National League and he's made 6 appearances so assume he's performing well, but no real idea if any detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Saw comments on the Forster and Reed threads about how they're getting on so far and wondered whether this was a sensible thread to keep it all together? Think there was one last season.

    In particular wondering if anyone can update on Tyreke Johnson so far? I see Woking are top of the National League and he's made 6 appearances so assume he's performing well, but no real idea if any detail.
    Certainly started the early games on the bench. Not seen if he’s started recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Certainly started the early games on the bench. Not seen if he’s started recently.
    Looking at the line-ups on BBC he started on Saturday so hopefully doing well.

    I also see Alfie Jones has started all 5 for Gillingham, first two at centre back, then moved into midfield. Again, no idea on performance levels though.

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    Jack Rose hasn’t started a match (or made an appearance) yet for Walsall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Certainly started the early games on the bench. Not seen if he’s started recently.
    Played 90 mins for last 4 games incl tonight. Playing LW, 2 assists, no goals, 1 yellow.

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    Scored today.

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    Jones and O'Connor both played full game for the Gills today, won 5-0 though it was against Bolton-12

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    Forster starts at Ibrox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Forster starts at Ibrox
    Having little to do. On another tack, Steve Davis playing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Forster starts at Ibrox
    Clean sheet. Celtic won 0-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Clean sheet. Celtic won 0-2.
    Pleased for him, hope he does enough to make the move permanent. If not it'll at least do his confidence a world of good.

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    Jake Hesketh gone to Lincoln on loan !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Jake Hesketh gone to Lincoln on loan !!!
    That's 13 out on loan. Round it up to 15 today with Lemina & Hoedtser & I'll be happy.

    @SimonPeach:#SaintsFC loan exits on the cards for Mario Lemina (Galarasaray) & Wesley Hoedt (Antwerp). Good for Ralph Hasenhuttl that players he doesn’t want are on the move - but a shame that the cost of dreadful deals made in recent years have impacted the club’s rebuild this summer
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    Florin Andone heading out on loan from Brighton to Galatasaray fresh from trying to nobble Yan Valery. Hope Galatasaray aren't using up their funds before their blockbuster loan deal for the legend that is Lemina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache View Post
    Florin Andone heading out on loan from Brighton to Galatasaray fresh from trying to nobble Yan Valery. Hope Galatasaray aren't using up their funds before their blockbuster loan deal for the legend that is Lemina.
    Bein Turkey have pictures of him arriving with his entourage in Istanbul so just matter of time until announced.
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    So to confirm players out on loan are:

    Player.................Cost to Buy........Weekly Wage...Annual Wage

    Forster...................£10m.................£70 k............£3.5m
    Hoedt....................£15m.................£60k ............£3.0m
    Elyonoussi..............£15m.................£65k. ...........£3.4m
    Carillo....................£19m.................£7 0k............£3.5m
    Lemina...................£15m.................£65k ............£3.4m
    Reed.......................Nil.................... .£20k............£1.0m
    Hesketh...................Nil..................... £10k............£0.5k
    Jones......................Nil.................... .£3k..............£0.15k
    O'Connor.................Nil...................... £2k.............£0.10k
    Johnson...................Nil..................... £1k..............£0.05k

    So based on these guesstimates, there are 10 players out on loan with a potential transfer write off 'value' of £74m (!!!) and with a prospective weekly wage saving of nearly £19m a year.
    It would be interesting to learn how much of these wages are being underwritten by the club.
    Normally there would be loan fees attached to these players but I reckon this option has been by passed by the high level of wages the players are contracted to receive.
    What a terrible indictment on those involved with these transfers.
    I bet the players agents must have had a field day negotiating with our management team at SMS at the time.

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    Is Charlie Austin sold or loaned.. Did we get anything for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellman View Post
    Is Charlie Austin sold or loaned.. Did we get anything for him?
    Sold, believe we some how got back the £4m we spent on him!

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    Alfie Jones scored for the Gills today.

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    Tyreke Johnson was on BT Sport with Woking against Hartlepool last night in a 1-1 draw. Didn't really stand out. I also didn't realise Woking were a part-time club until it was mentioned last night, making the decision to loan him there all the stranger. Maybe he's being educated on the other side of football, as it's so easy to end up there and Hassenhuttl stated that he didn't want the younger players to think that they've made it after a few appearances? I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarvSFC View Post
    Tyreke Johnson was on BT Sport with Woking against Hartlepool last night in a 1-1 draw. Didn't really stand out. I also didn't realise Woking were a part-time club until it was mentioned last night, making the decision to loan him there all the stranger. Maybe he's being educated on the other side of football, as it's so easy to end up there and Hassenhuttl stated that he didn't want the younger players to think that they've made it after a few appearances? I don't know.
    If they're part time, where is he training?? Back with Saints? Very odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarvSFC View Post
    Tyreke Johnson was on BT Sport with Woking against Hartlepool last night in a 1-1 draw. Didn't really stand out. I also didn't realise Woking were a part-time club until it was mentioned last night, making the decision to loan him there all the stranger. Maybe he's being educated on the other side of football, as it's so easy to end up there and Hassenhuttl stated that he didn't want the younger players to think that they've made it after a few appearances? I don't know.
    Going back 3 or 4 years, he was one I thought would make a break through.

    Now, maybe Sims aside, I’m not sure many of the loan players we have out on loan even have a future with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    If they're part time, where is he training?? Back with Saints? Very odd.
    Part time clubs still train. Probably has some sessions back at Saints to supplement, but it's hardly a problem commuting between Southampton and Woking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Part time clubs still train. Probably has some sessions back at Saints to supplement, but it's hardly a problem commuting between Southampton and Woking.
    I attended a Surrey FA CPD session with Ian Dyer, Wokings assistant manager, at the end of last season and he talked about loan signings. Woking train twice a week and loan players come to those but train with their parent club at other times.

    He’s done a few sessions via Surrey FA so if I can get to his next one, I’ll try to chat to him about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyinthesky View Post
    So to confirm players out on loan are:

    Player.................Cost to Buy........Weekly Wage...Annual Wage

    Forster...................£10m.................£70 k............£3.5m
    Hoedt....................£15m.................£60k ............£3.0m
    Elyonoussi..............£15m.................£65k. ...........£3.4m
    Carillo....................£19m.................£7 0k............£3.5m
    Lemina...................£15m.................£65k ............£3.4m
    Reed.......................Nil.................... .£20k............£1.0m
    Hesketh...................Nil..................... £10k............£0.5k
    Jones......................Nil.................... .£3k..............£0.15k
    O'Connor.................Nil...................... £2k.............£0.10k
    Johnson...................Nil..................... £1k..............£0.05k

    So based on these guesstimates, there are 10 players out on loan with a potential transfer write off 'value' of £74m (!!!) and with a prospective weekly wage saving of nearly £19m a year.
    It would be interesting to learn how much of these wages are being underwritten by the club.
    Normally there would be loan fees attached to these players but I reckon this option has been by passed by the high level of wages the players are contracted to receive.
    What a terrible indictment on those involved with these transfers.
    I bet the players agents must have had a field day negotiating with our management team at SMS at the time.
    Les Reed is one of the worst things to have ever happened to Saints.

    People don't realise because we are still in the premier league / not bankrupt etc. But under his stewardship (end of 2014 - 2019), almost every aspect of the club nosedived.

    But we don't need to go over that again.

    What is important right now is that the club stabalises over a few seasons, and we establish a good young team with potential, with an academy that is once again feeding the first team.

    Post Les we have made the first of those steps under Ralph. But we it to continue for a couple of seasons minimum - hopefully then with some improvements of the first team.

    Glasgow/Heisenberg/Cabbage loved to go on about his momentum curve... But it absoltuley applies to us right now. We are currently (I hope) just coming out of the bottom dip!

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    Tyreke Johnson hit a belter for Woking today.

    http://sport.bt.com/southampton-loan...91364394673322

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    Harrison Reed was Sky’s man of the match yesterday for Fulham

    He was very impressive in holding midfield role

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    Lenina started for Galatasaray in their 1-0 win over Kasimpasa, but was subbed after 30 minutes with stomach cramps/upset stomach.

    Carrillo came on at half time for Leganes in their match against Villarreal, they lost 0-3.

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    Wesley Hoedt played the full 90 minutes for Antwerp in their 1-2 over Anderlecht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Kucho View Post
    Wesley Hoedt played the full 90 minutes for Antwerp in their 1-2 over Anderlecht.
    Hoedt played in a match his team actually won.

    Anderlecht really must be poor under Kompany not to have exploited a particular weakness in the Antwerp defence.

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    O’Connor just scored Gillingham equaliser away vs Bristol Rovers.

    He started the match with Alfie Jones.

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    Lemina played 60 mins before being subbed in a 0-0 draw away to Club Brugge. Picked up a yellow card.

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    https://www.spreaker.com/user/11083314/cottage-talk-8-8-2019


    About 12 mins in on the podcast. Seems some people like him. This is from the Blackburn fan..

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    Always seems to impress on loan, but for whatever reason, he either wants to stay, we want him to stay, or we want too much money for him to leave permanently.

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    Forster played in Celticís 3-1 at home to Kilmarnock. Saved a penalty late on.

    Moi was an unused sub.

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    In Europe he saved a shot but not the penalty and " was pleased to see a header go over the bar" that's Forster !

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    Sims starting for NYRB tonight.

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    Didn’t watch all of it but he had a decent game. Was using his pace to good effect. Made a few great passes but his finishing wasn’t too good, NYRB won 2-0. Looked to be having fun on the bench after he was subbed off and got a decent ovation from the travelling fans.

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