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    Was surprised he didn't play at Fulham, where he would have had more chances to get off the mark.

    5 years ago there were idiots (probably the same ones) slagging off Pelle after 2 games. He scored at Millwall in the League Cup and was off and running.

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    Clearly he has to be given more time; we have so many players that have been written off (e.g. Redmond) but needed time to settle in and gain some confidence before we start making a negative conclusion about.

    My concern though remains the same; he scored 22 goals last year. 21 were with his right foot, just a single tap in with his left. No headers. Unless he can improve these areas he will be a very limited player and easy for premiership defenders to mark. For the Burnley game he missed a good chance in the first few minutes because he hit the ball with his right (instead of his left) and he missed another good chance against Liverpool because his header was inadequate.

    It is very difficult to lead the line if you can't head a ball or shoot adequately with your weaker foot. It will be interesting to see if Saints can develop these two apparent weaknesses - you can get away with these fundamental limitations in the Championship, not in the Premier. But he is young and learning ..... Let's give him the season to improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lets B Avenue View Post
    Was surprised he didn't play at Fulham, where he would have had more chances to get off the mark.

    5 years ago there were idiots (probably the same ones) slagging off Pelle after 2 games. He scored at Millwall in the League Cup and was off and running.
    I still remember how happy he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WALK DMC View Post
    Clearly he has to be given more time; we have so many players that have been written off (e.g. Redmond) but needed time to settle in and gain some confidence before we start making a negative conclusion about.

    My concern though remains the same; he scored 22 goals last year. 21 were with his right foot, just a single tap in with his left. No headers. Unless he can improve these areas he will be a very limited player and easy for premiership defenders to mark. For the Burnley game he missed a good chance in the first few minutes because he hit the ball with his right (instead of his left) and he missed another good chance against Liverpool because his header was inadequate.

    It is very difficult to lead the line if you can't head a ball or shoot adequately with your weaker foot. It will be interesting to see if Saints can develop these two apparent weaknesses - you can get away with these fundamental limitations in the Championship, not in the Premier. But he is young and learning ..... Let's give him the season to improve.
    I’m not sure he can lead the line in the traditional sense, but my thinking is probably outdated, it should do like a commanding enter forward who can bring others into play, but we haven’t had that since my man-crush Grazziano left, and before that Lambert, I think we’ve really missed that. I really hope it works out for Adams, I think it might take him a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lets B Avenue View Post
    Was surprised he didn't play at Fulham, where he would have had more chances to get off the mark.

    5 years ago there were idiots (probably the same ones) slagging off Pelle after 2 games. He scored at Millwall in the League Cup and was off and running.
    Remember how Mane was slaughted on here 'give him away, no one will buy him' etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lets B Avenue View Post
    Was surprised he didn't play at Fulham, where he would have had more chances to get off the mark.

    5 years ago there were idiots (probably the same ones) slagging off Pelle after 2 games. He scored at Millwall in the League Cup and was off and running.
    I don't think he had the comfort of two games before the barracking started, I recall a few loons making sarcastic cheers after about 35 minutes or so after he won a header.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo1976 View Post
    I made a post about how useless Carrillio was ,was i right?.........i got slated for it uuummmm ..tick for me i think,but i do think Che will prove a good buy,

    my other concern is theres a lack of depth in the attackers, atm Obafemi seems to be very injury prone himself atm not looking to promissing for the lad atm,

    having been out since Arsenal game last season,dosent seem to be able to shrug of hamstrings.
    Most of us predicted that. I can only think of 4 people who would slate you for that, Reed, the clown, the donkey himself, and his mum.

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    Thought Adams was excellent yesterday, comfortably his best game for us.

    Aside from the two chances which he did little wrong with, he was really strong, held the ball up well and put their defence under pressure.

    Confident he will do well long term for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Thought Adams was excellent yesterday, comfortably his best game for us.

    Aside from the two chances which he did little wrong with, he was really strong, held the ball up well and put their defence under pressure.

    Confident he will do well long term for us.
    Yes he looked good in the highlights I saw. He's gradually getting there.

    He will score the winner against the skates and become an instant hero, his early season form will be brushed under the carpet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Thought Adams was excellent yesterday, comfortably his best game for us.

    Aside from the two chances which he did little wrong with, he was really strong, held the ball up well and put their defence under pressure.

    Confident he will do well long term for us.
    He’s done well. Imagine how we might do when he starts putting the chances away.

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    Adams has a good game. Very unlucky with his efforts and have to tip your hat to their keeper. Cracking save

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    He had some remarkable power on the one that came off the post. If only he had scuffed it, it might have gone in

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    He's saving his first goal for those dirty skate b@stards. Oh how sweet it will be....

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    I thought his signing was risky and before Saturday I hadn't changed my mind but he impressed me on Saturday. Really good movement, strong and good pace. Great technique for the shot that hit the post and unlucky with the chance that was saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    I thought his signing was risky and before Saturday I hadn't changed my mind but he impressed me on Saturday. Really good movement, strong and good pace. Great technique for the shot that hit the post and unlucky with the chance that was saved.
    This echoes my thoughts on him. Not sure a good performance against a championship team has actually changed my mind but he displayed the attributes, or potential, of a good striker.

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    I rate him and reckon he will come good. He could be on 3 or 4 goals already if chances were taken properly. What I like about him is the fact he isn't afraid to have a crack. Danny Ings on the other hand is gash! 20 million for that come on now......

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    What is would the bookies give on a Che Adams derby double? Scoring against Bournemouth and Pompey

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    1 goal in his last 18 games.

    ****e.

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    Nothing has changed my opinion.
    3 goals more than Stern John once got for us in the championship and we paid £15million for him.

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    Che will come good. Che will come good. Che will come good. No worry.

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    I don't think he's going to make it. Several games in now, not really looking instinctive enough, not creating opportunities himself, missing the few chances that others create for him.

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    Very unlucky not to get two at Bramall and whatever you think about him tonight, the only time we looked close to beating the ‘keeper was from a penalty he won.

    I have faith. J Rod’s first goal was a long time coming IIRC and he had a similar record and attributes at Championship level.

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    He’s not scuffing it enough. Keeps hitting it too clean and getting blocked.

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    Won a lucky penalty. a rather lucky penalty.
    Some good hold up play I suppose.

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    As above, a few decent moments of hold up play, but I've not seen anything from him to suggest that he's got what it takes to perform the Herculean task of outscoring Shane Long.

    His last touch before contact on the penalty was taking the ball out of play about ten yards ahead of him, so he was very lucky as otherwise it would've just looked like another passage of play where he lacked the pace or technique to create a chance for himself.

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    It's not happening, is it?

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    Can't fault his work rate he works hard for the team but right now he isn't looking like much of a goal threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Can't fault his work rate he works hard for the team but right now he isn't looking like much of a goal threat.

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    Apart from the game last weekend where he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Apart from the game last weekend where he was.
    He almost scored against Sheffield United - it's going to take more than that to make a convincing argument that he'll make the grade.

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    So have we signed another duffer?

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    I'm calling it now. He's not good enough. Another championship player who can't make the step up. He might break his duck against Portsmyth, if Ralph doesn't have another stroke of genius and rest him, but that'll be just papering over the cracks.

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    I’ll be honest I really like him. Strong, holds the ball well. Decent feet. Pace. Hard worker. I can’t see how the goals won’t come. But then I like Danny ings as well. Must just be me I suppose but I’m more than happy with him.

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    He should have taken the penalty he won last night to boost his confidence.

    I think there is more from him but the problem isnít Che, itís the rest of the team not being good enough.

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    Whilst he's clearly a lower league player and Birmingham have pulled off the con of the century getting us to splash out £15m, it's really important we don't get on his back. He's an horrendous striker but slagging him off during games won't help anyone.

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    He’s gonna score on Tuesday.

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    some of the comments on here thought he played really well against Sheff utd, Liverpool and at times against United. He'll come good

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    Doesn’t look remotely like a Prem quality striker. In fact so far I have no idea how he managed to gain a decent reputation in the Championship...he just does not seem to put himself in a position to score a goal or have the ability to create a decent shooting chance for himself. Would love to see h8m come good, but how long does Ralph persist? Trouble is we’ve no other viable options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niceandfriendly View Post
    Whilst he's clearly a lower league player and Birmingham have pulled off the con of the century getting us to splash out £15m, it's really important we don't get on his back. He's an horrendous striker but slagging him off during games won't help anyone.
    This comment will come back to haut you sir. I can guarentee it.

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    I remember when Redmond was getting a load of clog. Now itís Adams turn. Personally, I think heís done ok, itís a big step up and he could come good. Only top top players jump up to premier league level and hit the ground running, doubt heíll be that but he could be a decent mid table player. Looked no worse than Ings this season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    I remember when Redmond was getting a load of clog. Now it’s Adams turn. Personally, I think he’s done ok, it’s a big step up and he could come good. Only top top players jump up to premier league level and hit the ground running, doubt he’ll be that but he could be a decent mid table player. Looked no worse than Ings this season.


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    Is that really how low the barometer is now set ?

    Personally the snippets I've seen from Adams have given me some optimism, but he does need to break his duck. Once off the mark and with a bit of confidence I'm hoping he knock a few in, a few "scuffs" in there but who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    some of the comments on here thought he played really well against Sheff utd, Liverpool and at times against United. He'll come good
    He should score at least one against Pompey. In fact, I see him as our key player for that game.

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    It took Jay Rodriguez eight league games to score his first for the club and another eight for his second after making the step up to the Premier League from the Championship. He wasn't so bad before the injury ruined him. Although, I guess he had more pace and was better at carrying the ball than Adams, but he was also playing in a better Southampton team. Unfortunately, there aren't many Lambert's or Pukki's who just make the step up with ease, many others need time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    I remember when Redmond was getting a load of clog. Now itís Adams turn. Personally, I think heís done ok, itís a big step up and he could come good. Only top top players jump up to premier league level and hit the ground running, doubt heíll be that but he could be a decent mid table player. Looked no worse than Ings this season.


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    Totally agree he hasn't looked any worse than Ings. The only problem with that is that Ings has been ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stknowle View Post
    Totally agree he hasn't looked any worse than Ings. The only problem with that is that Ings has been ****.
    Yes, and Ings cost £20million and is nearer the end of his career. Adams will be ok, plenty of good signs yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellman View Post
    Yes, and Ings cost £20million and is nearer the end of his career. Adams will be ok, plenty of good signs yesterday
    Exactly


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    Needs to be booed, immediately.

    6 games without a goal in a new league? Boo him. Definitely.

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    To be fair to the lad he's no better or worse than our other strikers. Non of them are anywhere near prolific, or indeed regular scorers. Pretty much par for the Saints standard of striker really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab Lungs View Post
    Needs to be booed, immediately.

    6 games without a goal in a new league? Boo him. Definitely.
    If he ever does finally score can I suggest we greet the goal with a huge ironic cheer, the likes of which We used to reserve that pile of dross PellŤ, the lazy, lumbering cat-horse weíve never replaced properly.

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    We need to replace him with Premier League quality like Ashley Barnes or Glenn Murray.

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    I did have my doubts about him when it was well known we were after him for some months yet no other premiership teams competed for his signature, which means 19 other clubs had a look and went "nah"

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