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    Went out on pens tonight to Colchester. All not well there.
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    Helps our league cup chances but probably not this game

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    See Poch threw it again. Not interested in trophies that one.

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    That back 4 again, Bednarek and Yoshida in the middle, Yoshida was running on one cylinder v Skates, Bednarek pretty much likewise.
    Bring Adams from the bench and stick the Irish fella O’bafemi to start, maybe a few starts from the bench might give Che a different impetuous.

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    Same line up but swap Adams and Obafemi for Boufal and redmond

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    Get the feeling Poch's mind is in Madrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Same line up but swap Adams and Obafemi for Boufal and redmond
    Yeah, definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Boy Saint View Post
    That back 4 again, Bednarek and Yoshida in the middle, Yoshida was running on one cylinder v Skates, Bednarek pretty much likewise.
    Bring Adams from the bench and stick the Irish fella Oíbafemi to start, maybe a few starts from the bench might give Che a different impetuous.
    Even though we kept a clean sheet I thought the defence looked pretty dodgy last night, especially at set pieces, they got away with it because Pompey are a ****e league one side.

    Having said that we've tried loads of different combos of a back four/five the last two seasons and still haven't found one that looks really solid yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Same line up but swap Adams and Obafemi for Boufal and redmond
    Would agree.

    Shame we havenít got someone to come in and give Hoj a chance to recharge.

    McCarthy does seem to have something extra on Gunn. Donít know if itís Gunnís inexperience but the defence seems a little bit more composed with him stood behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Even though we kept a clean sheet I thought the defence looked pretty dodgy last night, especially at set pieces, they got away with it because Pompey are a ****e league one side.

    Having said that we've tried loads of different combos of a back four/five the last two seasons and still haven't found one that looks really solid yet.

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    I agree. We are a mess at set pieces, party also because none of our midfielders or strikers are strong in the air. Pelle and Lambert used to clear loads of corners and Wanyama won plenty of headers too.

    Having said that, that was still out best back 4, I think.

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    Tough game they arent too shabby at home. Would take adraw. Start same XI as last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Shame we havenít got someone to come in and give Hoj a chance to recharge
    Armstrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    Armstrong?
    The forgotten man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    I agree. We are a mess at set pieces, party also because none of our midfielders or strikers are strong in the air. Pelle and Lambert used to clear loads of corners and Wanyama won plenty of headers too.

    Having said that, that was still out best back 4, I think.
    It probably is our best back 4 it's just not the great in the PL.

    Vest has turned out to be a massive disappointment (I was hoping he was going to be a beast in the air when we signed him), Stephens is ****ing gash and Danso looks very green but has potential I think.

    I'm not sure there is much between Cedric and Valery and Bertrand is the only proper LB we have.

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    Ralph surely has to keep the back 4 used at Pompey. And let them settle

    No way should Vestergaard waltz back in and please god stop throwing Danso in at fullback

    I fear Ralph will change it, sadly. He seems to have a blind spot with the defence

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    Be bold and go for the throat, for once a good time to play them

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    Same back 4 or maybe Danso in there for one of the centre-backs.

    Hopefully Djenepo might be fit and we can go with a forward line of Ings, Redmond and Djenepo.

    I think Adams needs taking out of the firing line for a bit, maybe bring him on against tired legs or get him an under-23 game where he hopefully gets some goals, because at the moment his confidence looks shot.

    As others have said they are ok at home, but generally are in poor form so we have a decent chance, especially as we seem to be decent away from home.

    See if we can keep it tight and frustrate them, get the crowd on their back, Villa almost did it for over an hour and Newcastle did it to them, with our pace going forward we could then hit them on the break.

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    Please Yoshida and please, Mccarthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    Same back 4 or maybe Danso in there for one of the centre-backs.

    Hopefully Djenepo might be fit and we can go with a forward line of Ings, Redmond and Djenepo.

    I think Adams needs taking out of the firing line for a bit, maybe bring him on against tired legs or get him an under-23 game where he hopefully gets some goals, because at the moment his confidence looks shot.

    As others have said they are ok at home, but generally are in poor form so we have a decent chance, especially as we seem to be decent away from home.

    See if we can keep it tight and frustrate them, get the crowd on their back, Villa almost did it for over an hour and Newcastle did it to them, with our pace going forward we could then hit them on the break.
    Sounds like his injury is pretty serious.

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    If anyone has a spare ticket for this, please let me know. Need one ticket.

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    My bold lineup for this one would be:

    Gunn

    Vestergaard Bednarek Danso

    Cedric Romeu JWP Bertrand

    Adams Ings Redmond

    With Boufal coming on for a cb if we need a goal. If Djenepo is fit he may compete with Adams. As has been said previously, I think Hoj could do with a rest and JWP looked good in midfield. To those drawing conclusions that Yosh or McCarthy should start based on pompey, bare in mind they are a pretty rubbish league 1 side so a clean sheet doesn't mean much. Further, on set pieces we looked very shakey when the ball was tossed into the box and I think Gunn claims the ball better than McCarthy and Vest clears better than Yosh. Also McCarthy nearly let in an absolute howler at his near post when Marquis shot from range. Luckily it hit the post but his positioning was dire.

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    ---------------Gunn
    Cedric Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand
    --------------Romeu-------------
    -------JWP-----------Hojbjerg-----
    ------Boufal--Ings---Redmond

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Sounds like his injury is pretty serious.
    A shame if so as he has looked a real threat (when played in his correct position).

    But I'd then go for Boufal, Ings and Redmond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab Lungs View Post
    Please Yoshida and please, Mccarthy.
    Yes, agreed.

    Having those two, plus Bertrand and Cedric as our fullbacks gives us more experience/composure at the back IMHO.

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    We’re 1 ticket short. jharris9587@gmail.com if anyone has a spare

    Good time to play Spurs. Same back 5, Ings and Redmond to start please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    ---------------Gunn
    Cedric Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand
    --------------Romeu-------------
    -------JWP-----------Hojbjerg-----
    ------Boufal--Ings---Redmond
    This is our best available team imo. Round pegs in round holes, an in form Ings, pace both sides of him.
    Spurs are on a bad run, dressing room appears in a mess, and Poch's head may well be in Madrid. We get something from the game.

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    Am I making this up or do Spurs have quite a good record of bouncing back from cup exits by spanking weaker opposition?

    On the lineup - I'm not sure Yoshida's performance last night did him any favours. Danso and Bednarek? Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    Am I making this up or do Spurs have quite a good record of bouncing back from cup exits by spanking weaker opposition?

    On the lineup - I'm not sure Yoshida's performance last night did him any favours. Danso and Bednarek? Who knows.

    Why’s that? He’s historically struggled against Harry Kane but his performance last night was excellent.

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    He grew into it but looked shakier than most in that early period. Caught in no man's land for Marquis's long-range shot and napping at that corner when they almost bundled it in. Another day and we could have been 2-0 down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    He grew into it but looked shakier than most in that early period. Caught in no man's land for Marquis's long-range shot and napping at that corner when they almost bundled it in. Another day and we could have been 2-0 down.
    Yoshida is one of the players who needs regular games to be at his best. He has been decent for us after an extended run in the team but he frequently looks like an accident waiting to happen in his first couple of games back after not being a regular starter.

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    Surely having a right back at right back, and a left back at left back is the sensible approach for this one? Instantly brings balance to the side.

    Redmond in from the start obviously. I don't want to see Vesterguard up against Kane or Moura, so Yoshida please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Same line up but swap Adams and Obafemi for Boufal and redmond
    Agree

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    [QUOTE=benjii;2763814]I agree. We are a mess at set pieces, party also because none of our midfielders or strikers are strong in the air.

    i noticed this too. But - surprise - it got better in the second half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren2 View Post
    Get the feeling Poch's mind is in Madrid.
    Are their U-18s looking for a new coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Would agree.

    Shame we havenít got someone to come in and give Hoj a chance to recharge.

    McCarthy does seem to have something extra on Gunn. Donít know if itís Gunnís inexperience but the defence seems a little bit more composed with him stood behind.
    Or maybe it was because we finally had a RB at RB, a LB at LB, and our 2 best CBs in between.

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    Could be a perfect time to play them....

    Get at them quickly and we could rattle a few.

    Start sluggish like Tuesday and they could pick us off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Yoshida is one of the players who needs regular games to be at his best. He has been decent for us after an extended run in the team but he frequently looks like an accident waiting to happen in his first couple of games back after not being a regular starter.

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    The other defenders seem to play better with him in the side too - perhaps he plays a key role in organising them. That does go against claims that Stephens gets picked because "he is a talker", but it's what I see at least. He is also the only centre back with any hint of pace, so can at least cover his or others mistakes. No chance of that with big Jannik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    He grew into it but looked shakier than most in that early period. Caught in no man's land for Marquis's long-range shot and napping at that corner when they almost bundled it in. Another day and we could have been 2-0 down.
    Maybe, but Marquis was still a long way from goal. If that had crept in the positioning of McCarthy would have been mostly to blame. I thought most players looked shaky early on, and Yoshida was regulalrly in the right place to make important blocks or interceptions later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfahaji View Post
    Maybe, but Marquis was still a long way from goal. If that had crept in the positioning of McCarthy would have been mostly to blame. I thought most players looked shaky early on, and Yoshida was regulalrly in the right place to make important blocks or interceptions later on.
    Watching that back, it does look like Yoshi should have easily been able to step in and intercept that ball before it got to Marquis but got caught wrong-footed. But that aside, I thought he had a great game and should definitely start on Saturday. If Ralph drops him again in favour of Vest then he will have officially lost the plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Watching that back, it does look like Yoshi should have easily been able to step in and intercept that ball before it got to Marquis but got caught wrong-footed. But that aside, I thought he had a great game and should definitely start on Saturday. If Ralph drops him again in favour of Vest then he will have officially lost the plot.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Ralph reverts to a back three for spurs away with Vest alongside Yoshida and Bednarek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Watching that back, it does look like Yoshi should have easily been able to step in and intercept that ball before it got to Marquis but got caught wrong-footed. But that aside, I thought he had a great game and should definitely start on Saturday. If Ralph drops him again in favour of Vest then he will have officially lost the plot.
    This. Vest is best when he's just one of the rest (and not blessed with selection)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Watching that back, it does look like Yoshi should have easily been able to step in and intercept that ball before it got to Marquis but got caught wrong-footed. But that aside, I thought he had a great game and should definitely start on Saturday. If Ralph drops him again in favour of Vest then he will have officially lost the plot.
    Yep - I'm really hoping that the team selection vs Bournemouth was actually just a deliberately weakened side to save our strongest for Pompey. But I'm not convinced...!

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    No fresh injury concerns apparently but now Djenepo is being called a "long term injury", real shame that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWar View Post
    No fresh injury concerns apparently but now Djenepo is being called a "long term injury", real shame that.

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    Very much hope he hasn't contracted 'sold to Liverpool already' disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    He grew into it but looked shakier than most in that early period. Caught in no man's land for Marquis's long-range shot and napping at that corner when they almost bundled it in. Another day and we could have been 2-0 down.
    I thought this too - first 25 minutes or so, Yoshida looked very shaky indeed, with a couple of ropey passes and instances of poor control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Watching that back, it does look like Yoshi should have easily been able to step in and intercept that ball before it got to Marquis but got caught wrong-footed.
    And he was miles out of position in the first place.

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    Gunn
    Cedric bednarek yoshi Bertrand
    Hojberg Romeu jwp
    Redmond ings boufal

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    I think we'll play a back five. Newcastle won there a few weeks ago by simply clogging up the middle. Tottenham don't want to get wide and put in crosses. Poch loves his side to side and back again football - but played by a team low on confidence and seemingly energy (surprisingly they're one of the worst pressing outfits in the league these days - very un-Poch), it's not that hard to deal with.

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    I'm hoping we start this one quickly and get in their faces early. If play like we did second half against Bournemouth we could knock their fragile confidence. It seems like a lot of games this season we've started off to slowly we have to concede (or have a few close calls) before the players wake up and start playing.

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