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    I would hope to see the line-up as below in the run-up to the transfer window, with those players not named, informed they are surplus to requirements.

    ------------ McCarthy

    CedricóDanso--BednarekóBertrand

    -----Romeu-------Stephens

    Boufal------Hojberg------Djenepo

    ---------------Ings

    Bench:
    Gunn
    Yoshida
    Valery
    PEH
    Armstrong
    Redmond
    Adams

    It's time to quit fecking about with formation and selection, cut this squad back to the bone and only add players that can walk into the starting lineup directly after landing at the airport, if they need weeks of coaching, they are simply not good enough.

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    I think we are missing Adams. He wasn’t scoring but he was getting chances and we were much better at keeping the ball in the opposition half.

    Play Ings begins Adams with two of Djenepo, Boufal and Redmond (I’d go for the former two at the moment).

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    I would go with this. We would have to keep 6 behind the ball at all times due to our inability to defend.

    Leave Djenepo Boufal and Ings to attack

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    The fact a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) want Stephens in as a def mid speaks volumes about how poor we have been in that area. Personally I donít see that working but do think we need to play a settled back line and keep with it - half our problem is the constant chopping and changing of personnel and tactics. Iíd go McCarthy, Cedric, Bednerak, Yoshida, Bertrand - Rom and Hoijberg def mid, Djenepo/Armstrong/Redmond att mid and Ings upfront with Adams, Valery, Danso, Boufal, Gunn, Jwp and slattery pushing for places. All that said Iím unconvinced they could stay up but think itís our best shot - need a new centre back leader Jan which is not going to be easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgey View Post
    The fact a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) want Stephens in as a def mid speaks volumes about how poor we have been in that area. Personally I don’t see that working but do think we need to play a settled back line and keep with it - half our problem is the constant chopping and changing of personnel and tactics. I’d go McCarthy, Cedric, Bednerak, Yoshida, Bertrand - Rom and Hoijberg def mid, Djenepo/Armstrong/Redmond att mid and Ings upfront with Adams, Valery, Danso, Boufal, Gunn, Jwp and slattery pushing for places. All that said I’m unconvinced they could stay up but think it’s our best shot - need a new centre back leader Jan which is not going to be easy.

    The problem at DM is a lack of recovery ability and mobility. Oppo frequently get goal side in numbers. Not sure Stephens adds much in those areas. If we want to try someone there then Danso would make more sense but whether he’s good enough on the ball - who knows. I’d sooner have Harrison Reed then either of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza82 View Post
    I would go with this. We would have to keep 6 behind the ball at all times due to our inability to defend.

    Leave Djenepo Boufal and Ings to attack

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    JWP is not, never has been and never will be any good as a central midfielder, opponents stroll past him like he’s not there, which he shouldn’t be. No further proof is needed after Saturday surely?

    The idea of Stephens as a holding midfield player might work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza82 View Post
    I would go with this. We would have to keep 6 behind the ball at all times due to our inability to defend.

    Leave Djenepo Boufal and Ings to attack

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    I look at that line up and it just sums up how ****e our squad is.

    I have a lot of time for Yoshida due to his long service but let's face it he should be our back up CB not a starter. Bednarek makes some good last ditch tackles but often he has to because he ****ed up his initial positioning and gets by passed easily.

    Bertrand's best years are behind him and he has being going through the motions for a long time.

    Cedric is a very average RB already dreaming about being elsewhere next season.

    JWP and Stephens in midfield is horrible but Hoj isn't any better than JWP and Romeu is the best of the bunch but horribly immobile.

    Ings is ok but considering how ****e our other strikers are he hardly has competition for his place.

    Armstrong might do ok in that position but really hasn't shown much to suggest he is any more than squad player.

    Redmond and Boufal flatter to deceive and I'm still waiting for them to really take games by the scruff of the neck and become a real threat.

    Djenpo it's early days but he looks at least half decent and a threat

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    If we must have a 'local lad made good' in the side then give Slattery a chance every week and ditch Ward Prowse for good. WP has had endless opportunities to demonstrate his ineptness, Slattery can do no worse and can take a bloody good corner time after time.

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    I like that team but Stephens isn't a DM at all. CM is a troubled area for us but the reality is that Hoj, Romeu, JWP & Armstrong are the best of what we've got. Until we can strengthen, we will have to persist with them.

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    I wouldn't be about experimenting with stephens at centre mid.
    I'm not a huge fan of persisting with Cedric ahead of Valery either

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    My lineup thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ally_uk View Post
    That would do it for me , for home games, but would bring in a cb for Boufal away from home, where 3 at the back works ok

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    When we're at home against teams we should be getting a win...one of the issues is that our best 4 players all basically play in the same position, Ings, Redmond, Djenepo, Boufal, then you have Adams too who probably deserves a chance.

    --------------------McCarthy
    Valery---Bednarek-------Yoshida---Bertrand
    ------------Romeu--------Hojbjerg
    -Redmond/Boufal-----------Djenepo/Redmond
    -------------Ings--------Adams

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    When it comes to relegation battles it's not just about ability, but commitment. We clearly have some who don't want to be here or aren't great for the dressing room.

    Ralph needs them gone asap and a proper team unit out there.

    If we've no money I'd get Reed back too as we're so lacking CM numbers.

    Redmond needs dropping, form is terrible. Needs selling if he's one of the disruptive ones. He puts effort in but moans at teammates constantly, so unsure what he impact is. But Djenpo and Boufal need to start either side of Ings each week. Or with Ings and Adams in a 4222. Silly to give up on Adams yet. Those 4 in attack and we might have something. Got to be better than sitting back and doing nothing.

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    --------------------McCarthy
    Cedric---Bednarek-------Yoshida---Bertrand
    ------------Romeu--------Hojbjerg
    -Valery-----------Boufal
    -------------Ings--------Adams

    I would rather not play Cedric or Bertrand, both want out, but we currently don't have anyone else. Valery is better going forward, so would play him further up the pitch.
    Djenepo is better as impact sub to conserve his energy, coming on without specific position, just with instruction to "do something special".
    Redmond was a passenger on Saturday, and we need to play Adams until he gets the target, and surely that is soon.
    Most of all, in January, for me (IMHO) we need a midfield general to (1) captain/lead the team, (2) energise all around him, and (3) play box to box as playmaker - cos it was obvious on Saturday the current incumbents don't know how to make a play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    --------------------McCarthy
    Cedric---Bednarek-------Yoshida---Bertrand
    ------------Romeu--------Hojbjerg
    -Valery-----------Boufal
    -------------Ings--------Adams

    I would rather not play Cedric or Bertrand, both want out, but we currently don't have anyone else. Valery is better going forward, so would play him further up the pitch.
    Djenepo is better as impact sub to conserve his energy, coming on without specific position, just with instruction to "do something special".
    Redmond was a passenger on Saturday, and we need to play Adams until he gets the target, and surely that is soon.
    Most of all, in January, for me (IMHO) we need a midfield general to (1) captain/lead the team, (2) energise all around him, and (3) play box to box as playmaker - cos it was obvious on Saturday the current incumbents don't know how to make a play.
    Swap Djenepo for Valary and Slattery for PEH, that would be mine.

    I don't know if Slattery is any good but just in hope that he isn't allergic to passing the ball forward like JWP, Romeu and PEH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saints foreva View Post
    Swap Djenepo for Valary and Slattery for PEH, that would be mine.

    I don't know if Slattery is any good but just in hope that he isn't allergic to passing the ball forward like JWP, Romeu and PEH.
    Djenepo is our most exciting player, but I would hold him back and unleash him for final 20 mins of games. He was ineffective on Saturday, playing a defined role. Play Boufal from the off, and season with a dash of Djenepo in the second half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Djenepo is our most exciting player, but I would hold him back and unleash him for final 20 mins of games. He was ineffective on Saturday, playing a defined role. Play Boufal from the off, and season with a dash of Djenepo in the second half.
    He was woefully out of position for the 2nd goal ...........because now heres the ****ing thing...hes no left back or indeed a defender.who in the first place shouldnt have been on the pitch playing that position.

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    What’s happened with Slattery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo1976 View Post
    He was woefully out of position for the 2nd goal ...........because now heres the ****ing thing...hes no left back or indeed a defender.who in the first place shouldnt have been on the pitch playing that position.
    He wasn't playing LB though he was playing LWB a subtle difference and to be fair he looked far better going forward than Cedric in that postion. For their second he was out of position mostly because he was blowing out his arse and looked knackered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    What’s happened with Slattery?
    He's playing for the U23's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgey View Post
    The fact a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) want Stephens in as a def mid speaks volumes about how poor we have been in that area. Personally I don’t see that working but do think we need to play a settled back line and keep with it - half our problem is the constant chopping and changing of personnel and tactics. I’d go McCarthy, Cedric, Bednerak, Yoshida, Bertrand - Rom and Hoijberg def mid, Djenepo/Armstrong/Redmond att mid and Ings upfront with Adams, Valery, Danso, Boufal, Gunn, Jwp and slattery pushing for places. All that said I’m unconvinced they could stay up but think it’s our best shot - need a new centre back leader Jan which is not going to be easy.
    Romeu has put in decent performances - Stephens is in no way suited to the role IMHO

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