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    I just want to see some energy and pressing. We're almost playing at the moment waiting for the inevitable. Why have our managers proven tactics been abandoned? Lets get at them, pressure them and actually try to win the game!

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    A long afternoon ahead and predictable evening of angst on here methinks.

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    McCarthy
    Cedric
    Vestergaard
    Danso
    Bertrand
    Romeu
    Hojbjerg
    Djenepo
    Boufal
    Redmond
    Ings

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    I can’t see anything from this game, but at least we have a full squad available. The problem is the wrong players will end up playing, including that midfield trio that hinders us, and struggling to pick two centre backs of decent calibre, let alone 3. And we will play 3 centre backs.

    It’ll probably be (352):

    McCarthy
    Stephens
    Bednarek
    Vestergaard
    Cedric
    Hojbjerg
    Romeu
    Ward-Prowse
    Bertrand
    Redmond
    Ings

    (Or include Yoshida for one of the others) which is a loss before we’ve even started. I’d like to see us have a go at them with pacy, attacking football. My team (4231):

    McCarthy
    Cedric
    Yoshida
    Vestergaard
    Bertrand
    Hojbjerg
    Romeu
    Djenepo
    Boufal
    Redmond
    Ings

    but I don’t think we will see Djenepo, Boufal and Redmond play together all season.

    Either way it’ll be a loss tomorrow. I just hope we keep the score down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaveloyMush View Post
    I have been saying this for some time, Reinhard!
    We know it, does RH know it?

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    Considering we lose when we set up to defend, we might as well take the game to them.

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    Everyone expects 5 at the back tomorrow and can see why RH would do that.


    Probably won't happen, but time we gave 4-2-3-1 a go IMO. Looks more balanced, although CM in any formation is a concern these days.




    McCarthy

    Valery Bednarek Danso Bertrand




    Romeu JWP




    Boufal Armstrong Djenepo



    Ings




    Bench:
    Gunn
    Cedric
    Stephens
    Hojberg
    Redmond
    Long
    Adams

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    Decent saints pub before the game ?

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    Pointless doing pre match threads nowadays - instead of trying to predict the line up and formation we should just guess how many points we’re going to get each week.

    I’m going for zero.

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    4-2-3-1 = Effectively 6 defenders. Stop slowing the bloody game down on the counter attacks so drop JWP.
    McCarthy

    Valery
    Bednarek
    Danso
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    Romeu

    Boufal
    Redmond
    Djenepo

    Ings (C)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsbridge Saint View Post
    4-2-3-1 = Effectively 6 defenders. Stop slowing the bloody game down on the counter attacks so drop JWP.
    McCarthy

    Valery
    Bednarek
    Danso
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    Romeu

    Boufal
    Redmond
    Djenepo

    Ings (C)
    That's a good looking side - I doubt Ralph has the clear thinking mind to drop Ward-Prowse; but we live in hope. I'd have Adams, Armstrong and Obafemi on the bench as attacking subs.

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    2 pages for a build up thread, the Saints have really killed our enthusiasm.

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    Totally random but obviously not worth starting a thread for so just posting here. I had a pretty awful dream last night that P*mpey were in the FA Cup Final against Leicester. Leicester missed a penalty on 29 minutes and then I stopped watching. Pretty sure them down the road won it

    Happy Saturday, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsbridge Saint View Post
    4-2-3-1 = Effectively 6 defenders. Stop slowing the bloody game down on the counter attacks so drop JWP.
    McCarthy

    Valery
    Bednarek
    Danso
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    Romeu

    Boufal
    Redmond
    Djenepo

    Ings (C)

    This^^^ but with Armstrong in the centre of 3 instead of redmond

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    Letís be honest, weíre not going to go with 4 attacking players at Arsenal away, maybe we will be Norwich at home, but theyíll kill us if we attack them at the Emirates.

    The logic would be to play 352 with Romeu holding and Hojbjerg and JWP linking between the defence and Redmond / Ings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_TOAST View Post
    Decent saints pub before the game ?
    Anyone back in Southampton between 3 and 5pm. Preferably one with a big sofa to hide behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    2 pages for a build up thread, the Saints have really killed our enthusiasm.
    To be honest, it's not just the thread, it's more forum-wide apathy. But you can't blame people for losing the love, it's not as if we've had a few bad results, it's the result of 3 seasons of mediocrity at best and pure crap at worst, mostly the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsbridge Saint View Post
    4-2-3-1 = Effectively 6 defenders. Stop slowing the bloody game down on the counter attacks so drop JWP.
    McCarthy

    Valery
    Bednarek
    Danso
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    Romeu

    Boufal
    Redmond
    Djenepo

    Ings (C)
    I like the look of that line up - but I would guess Ralph wonít. Ralph is a nailed on 3-5-2 for this, which is more 5-3-2 for us...

    RB - depends how badly Cedric P*ssed Ralph off against Everton - if heís been forgiven Cedric will play.
    JWP will play regardless of form - so change Boufal for JWP- Redmond is also undroppable so will play regardless.
    Danso at CB - I would like to see it, but Ralph probably wonít so itíll be Stephens.
    Away at Arsenal he will play 3 CBís anyway so add Vestergaard to that too, so remove Djenepo.

    There, 5-3-2, includes the JWP/Redmond out of form but undroppables, and looks really unadventurous and dull. Iíll be amazed if it isnít like this.

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    Don't know why but I got a feeling we might get a win/draw from this one.

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    Ralph's demeanour at the press conference was very downbeat and he seems almost in despair of how to engineer a recovery from our current plight. It was almost like he was pleading with the hacks for ideas on what to do next. If he really has run out of ideas and hope then for sure we are in trouble. I don't recall in recent times a head coach so seemingly at loss to understand what has to be done to fix things.

    Maybe he feels that they can't be fixed because the players at his disposal either do not have the guts for a fight or just haven't got it in them to concentrate for 90 minutes and leave everything on the pitch. Elite athletes that can use all their body's resources to maximum advantage and effect are not like most of us who don't have a clue about their body's potential or how to control it and extract the last ounce of brain and muscle power.

    In most cases footballers are not elite athletes; yes, a few will be but most are just talented and not very bright kids and what they are being asked to do is probably beyond their understanding. It's one thing for a coach to demand this level of effort and concentration form their players but quite another for those players to understand and know how to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Marco View Post
    Don't know why but I got a feeling we might get a win/draw from this one.
    I donít know why either, weíre gash.

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    I'm very doubtful about playing djenepo, Redmond and boufal all in the side. Yes they are all flair players, but they are all reasonably similar in that they all like to hold the ball for too long. If one of them was capable of quick incisive pass like Tadic then all 3 would make sense. But I just don't think it would work and they would all try to occupy a similar space.


    It's an unpopular opinion and I under why, but I would push jwp higher up the pitch. His best form last season was when he was occupying space similar to Alli. He's generally played deeper this season so, given our scarcity of options, would want to see what he can do further up. I concede though that would be unpopular!

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    4-1 Arsenal Iím afraid

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazza View Post
    I don’t know why either, we’re gash.
    We are total gash.

    I think maybe its because they are on a bad run and the natives are restless.
    That could take pressure off us.

    I am sure that feeling of optimism will change to dread once our team sheet is announced though.

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    Arsenal are beatable but we would need to be organised, attack minded & setup with players in the correct position, all things that look unlikely at the moment, Should we get nothing from this game where do we go from here?

    With confidence at an all time low & seemingly no one really believing RH can turn it around, we are looking odds on to be in the relegation zone at xmas, the statistics of teams not going down who are in the relegation zone at Xmas isn't great to say the least. If we don't get investment in the January transfer our fate is sealed.

    I know all the issues aren't solely RH's fault but he simply isn't performing to the level we require, our players are certainly average but I still believe they are capable of mid table if the very best performance is obtained from them

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    If they score first there will only be one outcome, we do not have the character or bottle to turn anything around once it starts to go pear shaped. We'll defend deep and try to keep them at bay and look to hit them on the break, unfortunately Arsenal are far too good for us, it's gonna be a home win.

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    4-1 to us

    Emery gets sacked after the game

    Adams scores 2 / Ings gets 2


    Ps I haven't had a beer yet ;-)

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    Today's U23 side


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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict Colony View Post
    4-1 to us

    Emery gets sacked after the game

    Adams scores 2 / Ings gets 2


    Ps I haven't had a beer yet ;-)
    It's not the beer that's done that, it's the 'Class A' you sprinkled on your cornflakes this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Bates View Post
    Today's U23 side

    No Slattery in the under 23s today? Has he travelled today I wonder.

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    Surprised at the amount of anti Hasenhuttl songs around London today. Some quite vicious stuff too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morse View Post
    It's not the beer that's done that, it's the 'Class A' you sprinkled on your cornflakes this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefizzy14 View Post
    No Slattery in the under 23s today? Has he travelled today I wonder.
    No Slattery, Vokins or L'undulu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    No Slattery, Vokins or L'undulu.
    Yeah I know. I know N'Lundulu has been injured, but maybe hes travelled to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefizzy14 View Post
    Yeah I know. I know N'Lundulu has been injured, but maybe hes travelled to.
    Wandered where l'undulu had gone. Is Smallbone still injured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Wandered where l'undulu had gone. Is Smallbone still injured?
    been back in training this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    been back in training this week
    Cheers 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    been back in training this week
    Oh yeah spotted Smallbone in the training pics this week.

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    Boufal and Djenepo on the bench whilst Obafemi starts.WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpsaint View Post
    Boufal and Djenepo on the bench whilst Obafemi starts.WTF
    Can only think this because of the travelling they did during the last week. Looks like a back four today.

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    Return of 4-2-2-2?

    Suprised re Djenepo and Boufal but both have had long Intl trips.

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    1McCarthy
    2Cťdric Soares
    35Bednarek
    5Stephens
    21Bertrand
    16Ward-Prowse
    23HÝjbjerg
    17Armstrong
    20Obafemi
    9Ings
    22Redmond


    Substitutes
    3Yoshida
    7Long
    12Djenepo
    14Romeu
    19Boufal
    28Gunn
    43Valery

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    Thought it couldn't get any worse then I see Obafemi in the XI.

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    Looks like 4222 or 442. There line up is odd too. Either 3 at the back or Chambers in midfield I'd guess. Gonna be goals in this game.

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    Adams behind Long and Obefemi in the pecking order?

    Onto the flop list he goes.

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    NO Che????

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    Cheers for Adams, Ross. Fully fit squad and he’s nowhere to be seen.

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    Adams not even on the bench.

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    If the two central midfielders are PEH and JWP then Arsenal will have a field day.
    Is Ralph trying to get the sack? Everyone fit and that’s what he comes up with? Give me strength

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    Arenít they going to run straight through our midfield?

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