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    Did anyone else watch any of Amazon's coverage last night? Watched 10 minutes of Palace v Bournemouth and gave up. Not because of the game but the picture quality.

    Can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right. Not techy enough to know if it is down to frame rate, speed of streaming or the way it's filmed but it just felt wrong. Maybe down to mt equipment ? 50" HD smart tv, watched via the app on the tv. Can't really explain it, it was almost a dreamlike quality, to the eye it was like the players were always a split second slower than the ball. Seen similar definition (for want of a better word) in films, seems ok then but maybe sport is simply to fast action for it (whatever "it" is).

    I'll be watching our game tonight because it's us, but if that's the normal quality it's not something I'd subscribe to permanently.

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    I didn't watch the games last night.

    But Amazon Primes 4k programmes pic quality and their live tennis coverage have been fantastic.

    (i watch through an X Box One)

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    I watched the start of Palace then switched over the City game when that started. The Stadium Atmosphere mode was brilliant.

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    This is the future. Simon Jordan made a good point yesterday.

    The premier league could easily ditch the TV companies, provide their service around the world (any game at the touch of a button a bit like Amazon), charge everyone who wants it, £9.99 per month.

    You will kill off illegal streaming services whilst making all the clubs richer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersonic View Post
    I watched the start of Palace then switched over the City game when that started. The Stadium Atmosphere mode was brilliant.
    And you could turn off the insufferable peter drury

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    There's a 2.5min delay

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    Watched palace game and a bit of the man city before i got bored.
    Quality was excellent.

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    I looked at it too late to see anything except the highlights. Picture quality initially was abysmal, completely unwatchable, but it improved a couple of minutes later when the highlights were almost finished.

    There’s something wrong with the encoding in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurzel View Post
    Did anyone else watch any of Amazon's coverage last night? Watched 10 minutes of Palace v Bournemouth and gave up. Not because of the game but the picture quality.

    Can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right. Not techy enough to know if it is down to frame rate, speed of streaming or the way it's filmed but it just felt wrong. Maybe down to mt equipment ? 50" HD smart tv, watched via the app on the tv. Can't really explain it, it was almost a dreamlike quality, to the eye it was like the players were always a split second slower than the ball. Seen similar definition (for want of a better word) in films, seems ok then but maybe sport is simply to fast action for it (whatever "it" is).

    I'll be watching our game tonight because it's us, but if that's the normal quality it's not something I'd subscribe to permanently.
    The problem is your end and not Amazon. We've had the same issue watching the tennis and last night's football on the Amazon app on a Samsung smart tv. As you say it was a poor quality, almost hazy and a bit jerky.

    However, I plugged in an Apple TV box and watched through that and the picture quality was the same as usually on Sky Sports and BT Sport. I think the issue is using the app on Smart TVs which seems ok for movies but not for sport.

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    Was in perfect 4K for me with no buffering issues at all. I don't mind the slight delay as I don't have score notifications on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    I looked at it too late to see anything except the highlights. Picture quality initially was abysmal, completely unwatchable, but it improved a couple of minutes later when the highlights were almost finished.

    There’s something wrong with the encoding in my opinion.
    Were you watching through the app on a Smart TV?

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    worked fine for me, unaware of any delays as not tied to my phone 24/7

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    All depends on how you're viewing it, your broadband connection etc. Mine picture via apple TV Amazon prime app was great.

    Employing Michael Owen less great.

    Tricky balance between being happy all games are on and it just being something else to make Amazon money and control. I get why they don't want just one company having all the rights but it does screw over fans.

    Also, would you want all games to be available live? While we're rubbish on tv a lot, it's nice that it's fairly rare and more of an occasion to be on live. You watch a lot of other teams games when they're on because you can't always watch your own. Just seems it'll massively hit attendances if Amazon get more rights and keep doing this.

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    Any idea what the quality is like via a firestick? I assume the quality is as good as Apple TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    All depends on how you're viewing it, your broadband connection etc. Mine picture via apple TV Amazon prime app was great.

    Employing Michael Owen less great.

    Tricky balance between being happy all games are on and it just being something else to make Amazon money and control. I get why they don't want just one company having all the rights but it does screw over fans.

    Also, would you want all games to be available live? While we're rubbish on tv a lot, it's nice that it's fairly rare and more of an occasion to be on live. You watch a lot of other teams games when they're on because you can't always watch your own. Just seems it'll massively hit attendances if Amazon get more rights and keep doing this.
    The lower leagues are protected by the 3 o'clock ban which is probably the main issue attendance wise. I do wonder if eventually they'll experiment with premier league having a different kick off time altogether, enabling the wider sort of amazon multi tv coverage/money deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Any idea what the quality is like via a firestick? I assume the quality is as good as Apple TV?
    Where it's a streaming service the quality depends entirely on your connection. You'd have to try it and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Bates View Post
    There's a 2.5min delay
    This was the larger issue from what I heard about it, I didn't watch any of it personally. It's always the issue with streaming, whether legally or illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by once_bitterne View Post
    Were you watching through the app on a Smart TV?
    This was via my Virgin Media Tivo box V6. I also have a Firestick but that's on the TV out in the conservatory but that's way to cold to enter without appropriate clothing.

    I am also on the highest datarate bundle so bandwidth shouldn't be a problem although it was playing up a bit earlier in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    This was via my Virgin Media Tivo box V6. I also have a Firestick but that's on the TV out in the conservatory but that's way to cold to enter without appropriate clothing.

    I am also on the highest datarate bundle so bandwidth shouldn't be a problem although it was playing up a bit earlier in the evening.
    If you have Virgin cable internet it won't be a bandwidth issue but try the Firestick and see what it's like tonight. It was way better for me on Apple TV than watching through the app on my Smart TV.

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    I watched on a Samsung smart tv 4K, The Prime app on the smart hub gave good quality reception. The firestick on the same tv wasn't quite as good. I also put it on my laptop for comparison and found that the TV was about 45 secs behind the lap top, excellent picture. I was using the Bt internet smart hub about three rooms away, the signal quality was showing marginal. I'm just about to link the tv etc to the Bt booster that I have about 6ft from the tv which showed an excellent signal. I couldn't be bothered to try and link it last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurzel View Post
    Did anyone else watch any of Amazon's coverage last night? Watched 10 minutes of Palace v Bournemouth and gave up. Not because of the game but the picture quality.

    Can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right. Not techy enough to know if it is down to frame rate, speed of streaming or the way it's filmed but it just felt wrong. Maybe down to mt equipment ? 50" HD smart tv, watched via the app on the tv. Can't really explain it, it was almost a dreamlike quality, to the eye it was like the players were always a split second slower than the ball. Seen similar definition (for want of a better word) in films, seems ok then but maybe sport is simply to fast action for it (whatever "it" is).

    I'll be watching our game tonight because it's us, but if that's the normal quality it's not something I'd subscribe to permanently.
    Might be your tv settings. I know that if I change the presets like "movie" "dynamic" "vivid" etc it will have an outcome on the watch-ability. Some are unwatchable for sports in a way just like you said that you can't quite put your finger on. Some TVs have a
    "sports" mode. Might be worth a check?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    The lower leagues are protected by the 3 o'clock ban which is probably the main issue attendance wise. I do wonder if eventually they'll experiment with premier league having a different kick off time altogether, enabling the wider sort of amazon multi tv coverage/money deal.
    Thats what they do in America with their American Football. No NFL games are played on Saturday because it would affect the attendances at the college football games. It's not out of the question that we might see all EFL fixtures played on a Saturday and all PL games on a Sunday / Monday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    I watched on a Samsung smart tv 4K, The Prime app on the smart hub gave good quality reception. The firestick on the same tv wasn't quite as good. I also put it on my laptop for comparison and found that the TV was about 45 secs behind the lap top, excellent picture. I was using the Bt internet smart hub about three rooms away, the signal quality was showing marginal. I'm just about to link the tv etc to the Bt booster that I have about 6ft from the tv which showed an excellent signal. I couldn't be bothered to try and link it last night.
    I've just linked to the bt booster on the smart hub app and the picture was perfect. The firestick wasn't as good but watchable none the less with no buffering.

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    Watched the City game on my phone for about 30mins - was fantastic quality, no issues at all, will watch our game on the firestick tonight on tv should be decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    And you could turn off the insufferable peter drury
    What!? One of about 4 commentators that has the ability to enhance the game. Put on the Palace game and heard a Owen first, then Eni Aluko and then said ‘they just need Jenas to complete the whole set’ and lo and behold 5 minutes later he pops up on screen. That stadium effects mode is going to come in handy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    Might be your tv settings. I know that if I change the presets like "movie" "dynamic" "vivid" etc it will have an outcome on the watch-ability. Some are unwatchable for sports in a way just like you said that you can't quite put your finger on. Some TVs have a
    "sports" mode. Might be worth a check?
    This is likely to be it - the motion smoothing setting on many TVs is input-specific.

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    Will there be streams available tonight for those without Amazon Prime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylander View Post
    Will there be streams available tonight for those without Amazon Prime?
    DAZN is streaming it here in Canada. It's a paid service too. I assume there will be the usual free streams to try your luck with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylander View Post
    Will there be streams available tonight for those without Amazon Prime?
    You can get Amazon Prime on trial for 30 days, free; https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/of...ft_EPL_19_tp_7

    Watch on your laptop/desktop if you don't have a TV app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by once_bitterne View Post
    If you have Virgin cable internet it won't be a bandwidth issue but try the Firestick and see what it's like tonight. It was way better for me on Apple TV than watching through the app on my Smart TV.
    Thanks for the suggestion but I shall be freezing my nuts off at the game tonight. I’ll try it another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    You can get Amazon Prime on trial for 30 days, free; https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/of...ft_EPL_19_tp_7

    Watch on your laptop/desktop if you don't have a TV app.
    TV Channel 554 through Virgin.

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    Dont forget it’s a 7.30 kick off nearly caught me out


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    You can get Amazon Prime on trial for 30 days, free
    This. For several years, I've signed up for Amazon 30 day trials whenever I've ordered anything off there in order to get free next Day delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion but I shall be freezing my nuts off at the game tonight. I’ll try it another day.
    Well done you. The hat-trick of badness that is traffic, weather and late kick-off, plus Amazon showing the game, have seen me cry off tonight.

    Build-up on Amazon is streaming perfectly for me thus far, they really seem to be throwing the kitchen sink at this. Sky and BT should be very afraid. Glad I no longer hold shares in the latter...

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    Tried watching the game through the X Box One S and the picture was constantly stuttering.

    Watching through the App on the Phillips TV works fine.

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    Absolutely perfect for me on PS4. What’s your broadband speed? Are you plugged direct into your router?

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    Streaming through the app on ps4, perfect picture.

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    Superb on my fire tv box. Lovely to be able to flick over to Liverpool game and then back to the saints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Superb on my fire tv box. Lovely to be able to flick over to Liverpool game and then back to the saints.
    Can stream on up to 3 different devices I think so if you've got phone/tablet you can whack both games on.

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    Mine was great till last 5 minutes

    Switched to mobile and seemed ok

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    Had Saints on my laptop whilst my son watched Villa/Chelsea on the FireStick; PC picture was perfect all game, the stick wasn't quite as clear a picture and stuttered for the last couple of minutes.

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    Is the main commentator wearing a wig? Seriously, it’s gotta be!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurzel View Post
    Did anyone else watch any of Amazon's coverage last night? Watched 10 minutes of Palace v Bournemouth and gave up. Not because of the game but the picture quality.

    Can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right. Not techy enough to know if it is down to frame rate, speed of streaming or the way it's filmed but it just felt wrong. Maybe down to mt equipment ? 50" HD smart tv, watched via the app on the tv. Can't really explain it, it was almost a dreamlike quality, to the eye it was like the players were always a split second slower than the ball. Seen similar definition (for want of a better word) in films, seems ok then but maybe sport is simply to fast action for it (whatever "it" is).

    I'll be watching our game tonight because it's us, but if that's the normal quality it's not something I'd subscribe to permanently.
    Checked all my TV settings before tonight's game.
    First half was worse than yesterday, poor quality pic and constant buffering after the half hour mark.
    At half time I checked the back of the TV and my nice yellow lead was nowhere to be seen, so TV streaming via WiFi ( which to be fair should be sufficient to handle it). Found it, hardwired tv back to my router and absolutely perfect for the rest of the game.
    Lesson learned, check the obvious first, it's usually that

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    Perfect picture for me. Using Roku stick

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    On demand games was excellent. Picture quality for me was fine (Amazon app through BT box). Only minor downside is that it takes my app about 30 seconds to change channels, I’d ideally like to flick to other games for a few seconds when there’s lulls in play at saints (most of the time then lolz).

    Overall though an excellent service, looking forward to more of the same on Boxing Day.

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    Loads of empty seats tonight. Reckon many were tempted to stay away

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    Thought it was good, liked being able to flick through the goals of the other games at half time. The 2 minute delay is cool as well, when we were clinging on in the last minutes of injury time I just went online to check we had won so got rid of the nerves.

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    I started watching on our second (older) TV via Chromecast from a tablet and it kept freezing. I then moved to a room with Prime installed on the (smart) TV and it worked fine. It made up for me not being able to use my season ticket this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Loads of empty seats tonight. Reckon many were tempted to stay away
    Yeah, we had a few around us even in the central Kingsland. Wasn’t too cold though. I had my thermals on and a thick jumper but because it was a calm night I didn’t feel the cold.

    When my wife has finished watching the Deadliest Catch I’ll try the highlights again.

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    100% record on Prime !

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