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    Long!!

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    Long!!!!!

    Hmm...looks offside...

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    Shane Long!

    Or is it going to be disallowed?

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    Shaner! didnt miss!

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    Nope. Offside.

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    Can we just be direct please? How many stupid errant back heels have been attempted so far?

    Do our players think they can afford to be this cute?

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    Could see that was offside from here

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    He was offside Dave, FA to do with VAR.

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    Longs record saved by VAR

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    Buggar denied by VAR

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    "Clear and obvious"...?

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    Long 1-0!

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    Shows the ridiculousness of VAR - how on earth could that realistically be called offside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    Na it was a cynical trip. Worthy of a yellow.
    So were some of the shirt pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    "Clear and obvious"...?
    You what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    I thought it was for the shirt pull?
    Possibly, my stream is a bit choppy (will see a Dr on Monday).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    You what?
    Qué?

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Shows the ridiculousness of VAR - how on earth could that realistically be called offside?
    Because it was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Shows the ridiculousness of VAR - how on earth could that realistically be called offside?
    The ridiculous part was that it showed drawing the lines and it appeared like Long was onside (shoulder of defender vs Long's foot) and then 2 more lines appeared on the screen and apparently he was offside. If it was offside then fine, but not really sure where they drew the lines to reach that conclusion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    You what?
    Look at the VAR shots - impossible to call that offside. Utterly ridiculous.

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    It was a more clear offside than the one that went in our favour over Spurs

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    Was a cool finish too. Bah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Shows the ridiculousness of VAR - how on earth could that realistically be called offside?
    It was offside. No debate.
    I don t understand why people don t accept it.

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    No VAR for that trip on Boufal?
    Certainly no pen given.
    Boufal's making some inroads, but ref not giving him anything, despite shirt pulls, trips, etc.

    Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Look at the VAR shots - impossible to call that offside. Utterly ridiculous.
    It’s not impossible to call. It was offside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohio Saint View Post
    It was a more clear offside than the one that went in our favour over Spurs
    And no different from the one that Palace had disallowed.

    On balance, VAR has been overwhelmingly beneficial for us so far this season.

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    Very poor first half.

    Vestergaard showing why he is nowhere near the first team - nearly costing us a goal near half time.

    Danso, Adams, Romeu all looking terrible.

    Smallbone looks like he has something about him: JWP been MotM by a country mile. BOufal flattered to deceive.

    NOt many of these players will be troubling the first team any time soon............

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    It was offside. No debate.
    I don t understand why people don t accept it.
    It was pretty bloody close... I get it, "offside is offside", but it WASN'T clear where the lines had been drawn, and to me it looked possible that the defender's shoulder was closer to the goal than Long's foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    "Clear and obvious"...?
    Yep - Ref gave it real time, so VAR can only overturn if it was a clear and obvious error - hardly that!

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    Well this is all a bit after the lord mayor's show. No surprise I suppose given is practically a whole new team out for us. The whole game is very pedestrian with very little quaility. Crowd are trying on the atmosphere front in the he Itchen North but the whole game is very flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    It’s not impossible to call. It was offside.
    It was only possible to call it offside after VAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Very poor first half.

    Vestergaard showing why he is nowhere near the first team - nearly costing us a goal near half time.

    Danso, Adams, Romeu all looking terrible.

    Smallbone looks like he has something about him: JWP been MotM by a country mile. BOufal flattered to deceive.

    NOt many of these players will be troubling the first team any time soon............
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    Crap first half lots of possession but no directness or end product... I am starting to think Adams is toilet! can't see what he offers apart from holding up the occasional ball can't finish dinner let alone a football..

    Mix it up a bit 2nd half and go direct!

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    Definite offside.

    Ref seems a bit crap in general though, letting them get away with feigning head injuries, fouling Boufal, and stopping play repeatedly.

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    Damn VAR. My rule would be if it's not clear and obvious inside 20 seconds then it isn't clear and obvious.
    Besides that Saints have been poor in attacking areas and very open in defence. I'm going for 0-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfahaji View Post
    It was pretty bloody close... I get it, "offside is offside", but it WASN'T clear where the lines had been drawn, and to me it looked possible that the defender's shoulder was closer to the goal than Long's foot.
    You do know that the coloured lines we see are for spectators benefit. The officials do not use/see those lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    It was offside. No debate.
    I don t understand why people don t accept it.
    I think the issue is that for offside they draw lines and you can be a mm off (objective). For a penalty they ask “was it a clear and obvious mistake?” (subjective). They need to sort this out. Lost count of the number of times that the comma say “no penalty but if the ref had given it then it wouldn’t have been overturned”. So it was a penalty then? And some **** in black ****ed up but you don’t want to show him up?

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    https://www.theguardian.com/football...say-law-makers

    "VAR should not be used for ‘something marginal’, says Ifab"

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    Just seen a replay of the shirt pull on Vestergaard. Um, VAR?
    We're not getting the rub of the green today. Mind you, we shouldn't need it - we should be winning this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    It’s not impossible to call. It was offside.
    Not in the eyes of the ref or lino at the time. Had this been at a ground without VAR it would have counted.
    Maybe var should not be used in FA Cup to keep a level playing pitch for all clubs involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useful Idiot View Post
    Definite offside.

    Ref seems a bit crap in general though, letting them get away with feigning head injuries, fouling Boufal, and stopping play repeatedly.
    You were looking at the defender on the far side, right? Because when the first line was drawn, Long's foot looked ONSIDE. The only thing that could have changed was if Long's chest/shoulder was also further forward than his foot and that part of the drawing wasn't shown.

    At the very least there was millimetres in it, so not sure how anyone can say it was "obvious".

    I'm not complaining that it was disallowed, just bemusing that people think it was clear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericofarabia View Post
    Not in the eyes of the ref or lino at the time. Had this been at a ground without VAR it would have counted.
    Maybe var should not be used in FA Cup to keep a level playing pitch for all clubs involved.
    Linos for you


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericofarabia View Post
    Not in the eyes of the ref or lino at the time. Had this been at a ground without VAR it would have counted. .....
    Or, perhaps, the lino would have put his flag up. He knows that VAR will check, so he doesn't have to make the decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeG View Post
    I'm not there today but apparently there's a bloke sat with the directors wearing a Red Bull coat!

    Anyone on earlobe watch?
    Anything in this?

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    Not great. No pace or intensity in the game.

    Of the kids, Vokins has looked okay, Smallbone pretty anonymous. Danso at right back is still a round peg in a square hole.

    Adams continues to look bobbins. What's he good at?

    Huddersfield have had a couple of dangerous counters. Could see them scoring.

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    No I'm not sure about that bit... so who is drawing the yellow lines? Because those are the ones that made it look onside, and then eventually a red and a blue line were shown with the red being the offside one.

    I'm not saying it wasn't offside, just that it wasn't obvious, in much the same way that Zaha wasn't obviously offside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    "Clear and obvious"...?

    Having just read up on VAR rules, it seems that 'clear and obvious' doesn't apply to offside decisions.

    Either you are or you're not...

    Think they will have to re-write the offside rule as this is a 'clear and obvious' conflict with the game at the moment...

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    Well eventually we were going to be on the negative end of the atrocious VAR system on a tight call.
    Home to Huddersfield is the game you want that decision to go against you.
    No clue why Boufal one isn't a pen though. The guy comes through the back. Is that not as clear and obvious as the offside that they had to spend 5 minutes working out.

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    Plenty of deadwood on display today,lucky they are not in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
    Having just read up on VAR rules, it seems that 'clear and obvious' doesn't apply to offside decisions.
    It does apply to offsides, according to the people that make the rules...
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...say-law-makers

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