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    Default Official: Kyle Walker-Peters Joins on Loan

    As this seems to have advanced now, though I'd move into its own thread rather than the massive January window thread.

    Daily Echo reporting that Saints have beaten Brighton and Palace to the loan signing of KWP.

    Spurs wanted a sale this window but Saints wouldn't agree to it at this stage. Loaning him first.

    Thoughts?

    Source: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18...walker-peters/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    As this seems to have advanced now, though I'd move into its own thread rather than the massive January window thread.

    Daily Echo reporting that Saints have beaten Brighton and Palace to the loan signing of KWP.

    Spurs wanted a sale this window but Saints wouldn't agree to it at this stage. Loaning him first.

    Thoughts?

    Source: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18...walker-peters/
    A loan with an obligation maybe?

    Certainly have the money available if we don’t take up the Danso option.

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    Spurs fans don't seem to think he's much cop but let's see. He can play either side so that's useful.

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    Text one of my best mates who is a very level-headed Spurs STH who has watched Saints with me on occasion...

    "He’s not even our second choice RB and he’s the only other RB at the club. Not good enough for us and not good enough for you either."

    Hope this is a Ryan Bertrand style pickup!

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    Guess short term it gives us some options
    Hopefully no obligation involved as buying someone with little experience, just because he's at spurs is poor logic. Aurier is a terrible right back too, which says something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    Text one of my best mates who is a very level-headed Spurs STH who has watched Saints with me on occasion...

    "He’s not even our second choice RB and he’s the only other RB at the club. Not good enough for us and not good enough for you either."

    Hope this is a Ryan Bertrand style pickup!
    Yeah a level headed Spurs supporter I work with said a few weeks ago, before we were even linked I think that playing him was like having a school boy at full back.
    Like you say hopefully its a Ryan Bertrand type thing and if not then hes just cover for 4/5 months.

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    Should be a full proof signing after Pekhart / Falque / Forecast ripped it up for us over the years

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    To be fair there were quite a number on here who thought Jack Stephens was a poor CH a few months back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iansums View Post
    To be fair there were quite a number on here who thought Jack Stephens was a poor CH a few months back.
    He was... a few months back.

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    He is

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    Not thrilled about this, but the last signing I wasn't thrilled about was Danny Ings and I was super excited for Vestergaard, Hoedt, and Carillo so I'm going to reserve judgement this time.

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    Feels a bit like a Betrand situation. He was poor on loan at Villa before he joined us, and was viewed as a funny choice. Turned out alright though I suppose!

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    If coached properly then he would be a great prospect.
    Would love it if he played in the replayed and scored the winner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    He was... a few months back.
    No, he wasn't, his form was poor yes, like the rest of the team and he wasn't getting a run of games. Forum experts

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    Atleast it seems to be a "try before you buy" situation. We have 5/6 months to see if he'd be a good enough replacement for Cedric, if he isn't I'm sure he'll be sent back and we'll look at alternatives. Worth a punt, if just for a bit of cover. You'd expect we have an option to buy if we want him.

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    It’s a strange move for the player because once Cédric is fit he probably isn’t going to play much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    If coached properly then he would be a great prospect.
    Would love it if he played in the replayed and scored the winner!
    Not allowed as he wasn't here for the 1st game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Atleast it seems to be a "try before you buy" situation. We have 5/6 months to see if he'd be a good enough replacement for Cedric, if he isn't I'm sure he'll be sent back and we'll look at alternatives. Worth a punt, if just for a bit of cover. You'd expect we have an option to buy if we want him.
    Indeed, seems eminently sensible if it's a deal on those terms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    As this seems to have advanced now, though I'd move into its own thread rather than the massive January window thread.

    Daily Echo reporting that Saints have beaten Brighton and Palace to the loan signing of KWP.

    Spurs wanted a sale this window but Saints wouldn't agree to it at this stage. Loaning him first.

    Thoughts?

    Source: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18...walker-peters/
    If it's a loan with an option rather than obligation to buy then I think it's a good move. We can check him out ala Danso and then decide. He can play both sides and is young with at least some PL experience. Whilst not great he has been ok every time I have seen him play (only a handful). Was he not tipped for England not long ago?

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    I wonder if beating palace to his signature means that they have got Maehle who they are linked with. Personally I would prefer him to KWP, more experience and more proven capability.

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    Tottenham loaning us him before our replay is sus...

    Seriously though he burst on to the scene and did well, quick, can cover both full back positions, and as it’s a loan (unless it’s with an obligation to buy) then it’s risk free. Yes he’s been overlooked lately but Spurs still wanted £15 million to buy him so that says something.

    I remain open minded about this one, we certainly needed a specialist full back and he could turn out to be a master stroke. Yes I’m sure people would have wanted a first choice right back but this means we have until summer to properly scout one.

    Palace are in for Norwich’s Jamal Lewis at left back. I’d be all over that as a long term successor to Bertrand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikee View Post
    I wonder if beating palace to his signature means that they have got Maehle who they are linked with. Personally I would prefer him to KWP, more experience and more proven capability.
    As long as it's not like the De Boer/Pellegrino situation where we both ended up with appalling choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lets B Avenue View Post
    Not allowed as he wasn't here for the 1st game.
    Answers my suspicions...

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    Not sure why people are against this. Every time I've seen him play I have thought he has been decent and in the few premier league games he has played he has provided assists.

    He can play both flanks and if a loan to buy option it is a win win situation. January is always hard to buy players and if we made a punt on a player from Europe it could be another player we loan out for years. Hopefully this is a Bertrand type of loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatlesaint View Post
    Yeah a level headed Spurs supporter I work with said a few weeks ago, before we were even linked I think that playing him was like having a school boy at full back.
    Like you say hopefully its a Ryan Bertrand type thing and if not then hes just cover for 4/5 months.
    Level headed Spurs supporters. You're having a laugh. 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Level headed Spurs supporters. You're having a laugh. 
    its hard to believe but he really is

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    Had a look on Spurs forums and got the sense he just hasn't been given the game time there.
    Some calling for "sell, as long as there is a sell on clause" which suggests not everyone has given up on him.
    Loan seems good for everyone if it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    Tottenham loaning us him before our replay is sus

    Why?

    Plus... if you aren't registered to play in the original game then you can't play in the replay.

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    Think the key question here is, assuming we would have an option to buy in the summer, who is the better bet to replace Cedric from next season? Valery or KWP?

    I haven’t given up hope that our recent progress may persuade Cedric to sign an extension by the way. But the last we heard he is off and so for me it’s less about this season and more about next.

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    Seems a bit odd. We are one of the most form teams in the league, just about competing for a European place, and could do with a signal of intent rather than a squad filler. So it seems odd that we would sign Spurs 4th choice right back. Arguably 5th choice as they would probably play Sissoko there ahead of KWP.

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    Have to say this is a bit weird, given his rubbishness. Do think our transfer policy feels like it's written by Stevie Wonder sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forester View Post
    Think the key question here is, assuming we would have an option to buy in the summer, who is the better bet to replace Cedric from next season? Valery or KWP?

    I haven’t given up hope that our recent progress may persuade Cedric to sign an extension by the way. But the last we heard he is off and so for me it’s less about this season and more about next.
    I don't think we would be going for KWP and supposedly still be interested in Frimpong if there was any chance of Cedric staying. Think this activity is a strong indication that he will be playing elsewhere. Shame, but some of the forum experts say he is crap so guess it must be true.

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    I guess it makes sense, although hardly inspiring. Gao's investment is basically safe for another season, he isn't going to start spending if he doesn't have to. Kind of a no-lose situation assuming there's no obligation to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    A loan with an obligation maybe?

    Certainly have the money available if we don’t take up the Danso option.
    We won't take up the Danso option.

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    So Valery out for the season? Seems a bit weird if not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Armstrong View Post
    Text one of my best mates who is a very level-headed Spurs STH who has watched Saints with me on occasion...

    "He’s not even our second choice RB and he’s the only other RB at the club. Not good enough for us and not good enough for you either."

    Hope this is a Ryan Bertrand style pickup!
    Had Spurs fans say the opposite too.

    Maybe he's off form or needs a new club. Maybe he's rubbish.

    But it's only 3 months ago Saints fans would have been delighted to give away Stephens, Cedric and a fair few other important players. Plenty of our current decent starting 11 didn't make the team under previous managers too. It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    So Valery out for the season? Seems a bit weird if not.
    Must be.

    Anyone else think Valery could end up playing further forward? I think he's always looked pretty good going forward but defensively he has a huge amount to develop. Could provide competition with Armstrong for that right midfield place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    So Valery out for the season? Seems a bit weird if not.
    No cos he can play on the left as well so cover for Bertrand.
    2 for 1 - right up Saints street, cheap

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    Quite suprised by the negative reaction to this. After the singings of Carillo, Hoedt, Vestergaard etc I am quite pleased that Ralph has the chance to evaluate a player at close quarters before spending on them.

    As for KWP not making it at Spurs, even to break through there is tough enough, and we know Mourinho likes big, physical players so hardly a suprise he isn't a fan.

    If he signs its a no lose for Saints really, ahead of what needs to be a big summer of outs and ins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Why?

    Plus... if you aren't registered to play in the original game then you can't play in the replay.
    Two posts down from the original...

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    Makes you wonder if Crocker had some influence in this deal.. will have worked with kwp in the younger England set ups maybe sees something in him?

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    Happy with that as a loan. Let him cover and if he's not great then nothing's lost. We've got a much better chance of signing a permanent Cedric replacement in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    So Valery out for the season? Seems a bit weird if not.
    He can play on the left so can provide cover for RB as well, something Ralph mentioned as a priority since it seems that Vokins isn't ready for the PL. I don't think the signing means that Valery is out for the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dig Dig View Post
    He can play on the left so can provide cover for RB as well, something Ralph mentioned as a priority since it seems that Vokins isn't ready for the PL. I don't think the signing means that Valery is out for the season.
    It's not great for him though. Say we've got a fully fit squad and you can put Valery on the bench, to cover right back, or KWP to cover both. Who gets left out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    It's not great for him though. Say we've got a fully fit squad and you can put Valery on the bench, to cover right back, or KWP to cover both. Who gets left out?
    How long will it take Valery to regain match fitness and we don’t know how much the virus has taken out of him


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    West Ham are apparently in for him, so maybe not a done deal.

    All the Kyle Walker-Peters experts on here may get their wish on him not joining as they have written him off already.

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    I think its more the fact that we were very interested in Maehle and he did look like an exciting prospect with plenty of decent top level experience, and probably as we haven't a pot to p*** in were not pursuing him and going for cheap option, same as Augustin deal, he's so much more of a Ralph type player than Adams, why they didn't let Leeds take Che and we jumped at JKA ill never know

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    Would be a good bit of business to bring KWP on loan till the end of the season with an option to buy. He has always looked good when hes played for Tottenham.

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    Maybe Maehle didn't want to come, or we weren't interested. I liked the sound of him but haven't seen him play so no idea.

    But Cedric is off in the summer. Shame really as he's improved a lot and has great experience, imagine he'll get a good move on a free. Still, KWP and Valery for next season sounds alright. LB worries me more in who we'd get if Bertrand wants out. They won't want to block Vokins but he's some way off really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danjosaint View Post
    I think its more the fact that we were very interested in Maehle and he did look like an exciting prospect with plenty of decent top level experience, and probably as we haven't a pot to p*** in were not pursuing him and going for cheap option, same as Augustin deal, he's so much more of a Ralph type player than Adams, why they didn't let Leeds take Che and we jumped at JKA ill never know
    Not so sure.

    Why is Maehle a great player all of a sudden? He is apparently available for €7M - not much in today's terms and no one has rushed to buy him? KWP would be £15M for permanent signing. Seems a very wise move to get him on loan and if he is any good then buy him in the summer - much less risk no?

    As for Augustin, let's see how he does at Leeds - was touted for £38M https://tbrfootball.com/everton-shou...lack-of-games/ not so long ago. Seems Leeds will pay cira £3M for a loan to end of season and £18M option to buy - some drop! Is he really better than what we have?

    I don't disagree that our owner probably has an infestation of moths in his wallet, but we need to be a lot more smarter about our future buys.

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