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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    We are going to have a terrible summer. We're already in financial turmoil and lost money from match day tickets and sales due to corona. Not to mention that the Premier League monies for TV appearances will be in jeopardy if the season doesn't finish, or the fact that the club is now running with greatly reduced income at time when it isn't budgeted.

    Plus ofc, we have the wrong first team players on short contract expries, and Les Read's golden spunk generation of players inflated wages and long contracts.

    Why anyone would have any enthusiasm about this summer is beyond me. Outside of hoping we get taken over by Red bull!!

    Sorry to be negative, sign of the times. Feel free to cheer me up
    If next season is wiped off, that s more players out of contract and more off the wage bill.
    Not sure we should renew Long at this rate as he will be 34 by next summer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    We are going to have a terrible summer. We're already in financial turmoil and lost money from match day tickets and sales due to corona. Not to mention that the Premier League monies for TV appearances will be in jeopardy if the season doesn't finish, or the fact that the club is now running with greatly reduced income at time when it isn't budgeted.

    Plus ofc, we have the wrong first team players on short contract expries, and Les Read's golden spunk generation of players inflated wages and long contracts.

    Why anyone would have any enthusiasm about this summer is beyond me. Outside of hoping we get taken over by Red bull!!

    Sorry to be negative, sign of the times. Feel free to cheer me up
    If next season is wiped off, that s more players out of contract and more off the wage bill.
    Not sure we should renew Long at this rate as he will be 34 by next summer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    We are going to have a terrible summer. We're already in financial turmoil and lost money from match day tickets and sales due to corona. Not to mention that the Premier League monies for TV appearances will be in jeopardy if the season doesn't finish, or the fact that the club is now running with greatly reduced income at time when it isn't budgeted.

    Plus ofc, we have the wrong first team players on short contract expries, and Les Read's golden spunk generation of players inflated wages and long contracts.

    Why anyone would have any enthusiasm about this summer is beyond me. Outside of hoping we get taken over by Red bull!!

    Sorry to be negative, sign of the times. Feel free to cheer me up
    Maybe.

    But there'd be some money due to TV money. The previous season losses include poor spending, failing to get rid of players. We haven't spent much this season. We'll shift a few, have a more streamlined squad. We won't have a manager sacking and hiring to pay for.

    A small squad with competition from the likes of Smallbone, Vokins, Valery isn't the end of the world IMO. Better than spending big on rubbish. I'd love a new keeper and striker but if we stick with McCarthy and work on Adams so be it.

    We could sell Vestergaard, who clubs seem to like for some reason, ditch Mo, forster, carillo, lemina, hoedt, probably Boufal too. We'd have enough for a couple of 15m level signings. A CB and midfielder you'd imagine, maybe get a loan or two.

    There's no reason if done well we couldn't have a mid table team without net spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Maybe.

    But there'd be some money due to TV money. The previous season losses include poor spending, failing to get rid of players. We haven't spent much this season. We'll shift a few, have a more streamlined squad. We won't have a manager sacking and hiring to pay for.

    A small squad with competition from the likes of Smallbone, Vokins, Valery isn't the end of the world IMO. Better than spending big on rubbish. I'd love a new keeper and striker but if we stick with McCarthy and work on Adams so be it.

    We could sell Vestergaard, who clubs seem to like for some reason, ditch Mo, forster, carillo, lemina, hoedt, probably Boufal too. We'd have enough for a couple of 15m level signings. A CB and midfielder you'd imagine, maybe get a loan or two.

    There's no reason if done well we couldn't have a mid table team without net spending.
    Good effort Adrian, some valid silver linings in there

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    Of course, there may not even be a transfer window this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenridge View Post
    We have been linked with him for about 3 years!

    On a free it could make sense.

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    https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...ig-sport-bild/

    Looks like we will finally get our man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...ig-sport-bild/

    Looks like we will finally get our man.
    Not at that price we won't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...ig-sport-bild/

    Looks like we will finally get our man.
    Thought for a minute Oliver Bierhoff was coming out of retirement.

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    Player link alert ....

    https://www.hammers.news/club-news/r...m-for-jose-sa/

    Although not a reliable or credible source it does break the monotony of having no football on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Player link alert ....

    https://www.hammers.news/club-news/r...m-for-jose-sa/

    Although not a reliable or credible source it does break the monotony of having no football on...
    He sounds like a decent option and I'd be pleased if we were going for a keeper. Gunn so clearly needs a loan move for next season to play regularly.

    But I'm not sure how we can sign players when everything is so uncertain. Revenues will be hit, things could prove really difficult. Think only the biggest clubs will be doing any business this summer. We may have to sell just to keep going this time.

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    It is difficult to understand what the effect of the current health crisis will have on club economics which includes transfer values.

    My personal view is the latter will see significant reductions and presumably this will have an effect on club finances.

    It would be interesting to see what 'values' are attributable to our loan players but can see that these must have reduced considerably in todays markets.

    That said, hopefully, there are bargains out there to be had, provided Mr Goa's finances are not completely shot.

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    I really can't believe that gibberish like this is still being thrown out. Assume it's an agent who hasn't woken up to the fact that the gravy train is about to dry up.

    Utterly stupid on so many levels.

    https://beta.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/04/...or-the-sa/?amp


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    I really can't believe that gibberish like this is still being thrown out. Assume it's an agent who hasn't woken up to the fact that the gravy train is about to dry up.

    Utterly stupid on so many levels.

    https://beta.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/04/...or-the-sa/?amp
    The story is based on quotes from Yan Valery, not an agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    The story is based on quotes from Yan Valery, not an agent.
    I would think most likely an agent asking Valery whether he'd like to see Konate at Saints and then building a story round his answer.

    I've no idea whether he's worth that much but there's no way Saints will throw even half as much at yet another CB until we've offloaded a few. That's if there actually is a transfer window at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    I would think most likely an agent asking Valery whether he'd like to see Konate at Saints and then building a story round his answer.

    I've no idea whether he's worth that much but there's no way Saints will throw even half as much at yet another CB until we've offloaded a few. That's if there actually is a transfer window at all.
    It was a 21 year old footballer in a global pandemic lockdown posting on social media to his mate. How exactly would an agent benefit from being involved from telling Valery to post such a thing?

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    Conspiracy theories everywhere!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    It was a 21 year old footballer in a global pandemic lockdown posting on social media to his mate. How exactly would an agent benefit from being involved from telling Valery to post such a thing?
    But who picked up this innocent Instagram exchange and made a story of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    But who picked up this innocent Instagram exchange and made a story of it?

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    An amateur journalist for a naff click bait website... Not an agent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    An amateur journalist for a naff click bait website... Not an agent
    What did someone do in a former life to come back as you? ����*♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    What did someone do in a former life to come back as you? ����*♂️
    Ran a dodgy Asian wet food market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    An amateur journalist for a naff click bait website... Not an agent
    I could agree with you there, maybe. But still makes the story rubbish.

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    Saints miss out on Willem II youngster Joel Ideho Dutch media report. 16 year old Ideho decides to join Ajax over Saints and German side Hertha.

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    I have it on good authority that Saints are expecting a difficult and probably quiet window. Priority is obviously a RB.

    Of the players out on loan, they expect it to be hard to move any on, especially post Covid. Forster could still have a role. Lemina frustrates as his ability is recognised but his attitude, workrate and consistency don't fit with Ralph's philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    I have it on good authority that Saints are expecting a difficult and probably quiet window. Priority is obviously a RB.

    Of the players out on loan, they expect it to be hard to move any on, especially post Covid. Forster could still have a role. Lemina frustrates as his ability is recognised but his attitude, workrate and consistency don't fit with Ralph's philosophy.

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    So a pretty normal one then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    I have it on good authority that Saints are expecting a difficult and probably quiet window. Priority is obviously a RB.

    Of the players out on loan, they expect it to be hard to move any on, especially post Covid. Forster could still have a role. Lemina frustrates as his ability is recognised but his attitude, workrate and consistency don't fit with Ralph's philosophy.

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    Does that mean, priority is a RB that isn't KWP ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Does that mean, priority is a RB that isn't KWP ?
    I get that impression. But no-one has really seen him play. Suggestions that there's a shortlist of about 16 which may well include him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    I have it on good authority that Saints are expecting a difficult and probably quiet window. Priority is obviously a RB.

    Of the players out on loan, they expect it to be hard to move any on, especially post Covid. Forster could still have a role. Lemina frustrates as his ability is recognised but his attitude, workrate and consistency don't fit with Ralph's philosophy.

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    Not surprised. Will be interesting to see if the market is more muted overall. Top priority is moving Gao on and achieving new ownership. Clean the club again, unite the fanbase, fresh start. Hope we keep Ralph, best manager we could have in the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint1977 View Post
    Not surprised. Will be interesting to see if the market is more muted overall. Top priority is moving Gao on and achieving new ownership. Clean the club again, unite the fanbase, fresh start. Hope we keep Ralph, best manager we could have in the circumstances.
    Sorry, typo, meant clean it out, all of the scouting and back room team, get rid of Kreuger/Reed stuff and Ralph have his own team

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint1977 View Post
    Not surprised. Will be interesting to see if the market is more muted overall. Top priority is moving Gao on and achieving new ownership. Clean the club again, unite the fanbase, fresh start. Hope we keep Ralph, best manager we could have in the circumstances.
    I don't get the impression Gao is going anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    I don't get the impression Gao is going anywhere.

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    Not enough loan money has churned through the club yet clearly to sources he can access. It will feel like SFC again when he has gone although dread to think what mess he will leave behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beavis17 View Post
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    hmm, 22 year old dutch right back, started at Ajax, 30 games for Gronigen. Any of our dutch members know anything about him, FM20 stats etc?

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    He doesn't give Zeefuik...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    He doesn't give Zeefuik...

    Interesting but watching that I thought he'd probably cause a few interruptions to games for refs to review VAR on some of his challenges, and end up with a few reds in the EPL especially against the protected species, Liverpool, Manc Utd etc.

    Confirmed at the end though, 73 appearances, 19 yellow cards, and 2 reds.

    Good wild kicking out at 3.08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Interesting but watching that I thought he'd probably cause a few interruptions to games for refs to review VAR on some of his challenges, and end up with a few reds in the EPL especially against the protected species, Liverpool, Manc Utd etc.

    Confirmed at the end though, 73 appearances, 19 yellow cards, and 2 reds.

    Good wild kicking out at 3.08.
    I thought that. Im not sure a video like that is a good one to judge how good someone is to be honest. Whilst a meaty tackle makes for a good watch, it would suggest hes either out of position a lot or not tight enough to his man.

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    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ts-evan-ndicka

    This guy is good, which means we probably won’t get him.

    Article also suggests we like Malang Sarr at Nice and Mohammed Salisu at Real Valladolid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beavis17 View Post
    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ts-evan-ndicka

    This guy is good, which means we probably won’t get him.

    Article also suggests we like Malang Sarr at Nice and Mohammed Salisu at Real Valladolid.
    It's good though that we are looking to crack on with our transfer plans during this current pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefizzy14 View Post
    It's good though that we are looking to crack on with our transfer plans during this current pandemic.
    Or:

    It's good though that some often unreliable sources are writing that we are looking to crack on with our transfer plans during this current pandemic.

    Hope they're correct that we are actively planning to recruit but we all know that this speculation leads to disappointment in normal times so I won't get my hopes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefizzy14 View Post
    It's good though that we are looking to crack on with our transfer plans during this current pandemic.
    If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

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    https://twitter.com/ed_aarons/status...990596610?s=21

    Apparent interest in Mohamed Simakan at Strasbourg. 19 and can play CB or RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

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    Well skysports are normally reliable when it comes to information. Why do you know different then mate?

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    Reims centre back Axel Disasi linked
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...si-summer.html

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    Interesting that we are being linked to strikers.

    Gianlica Scamacca who is 21 and we were first linked with aged 16 so there may be some truth to it.

    Shon Wiessman, 24yo Israeli Wolsfberger striker who has a goal a game this season.

    We only need 4 strikers so signing one would mean a departure. Long has seemingly been offered an extension but nothing has been announced. Obafemi is an obvious one to keep given he is a.) cheap b.) Academy produced and c.) not likely to expect to start all the time.

    Therefore would seem like Adams is the most vunerable, especially if we were to get a big offer from Leeds who seem to love him.

    Unless of course the striker links have no substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Interesting that we are being linked to strikers.

    Gianlica Scamacca who is 21 and we were first linked with aged 16 so there may be some truth to it.

    Shon Wiessman, 24yo Israeli Wolsfberger striker who has a goal a game this season.

    We only need 4 strikers so signing one would mean a departure. Long has seemingly been offered an extension but nothing has been announced. Obafemi is an obvious one to keep given he is a.) cheap b.) Academy produced and c.) not likely to expect to start all the time.

    Therefore would seem like Adams is the most vunerable, especially if we were to get a big offer from Leeds who seem to love him.

    Unless of course the striker links have no substance.
    Has there been any link to him from a 'reliable' media source ?

    As for Adams I suspect Leeds might be a bit more ambitious in their target once promoted.

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    Milot Rashica of Bremen linked.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...battle-bremen-

    But also linked with Liverpool and Leipzig, so would have thought we'd likely be third choice, although he may of course see us as a stepping stone.

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    Liverpool will tell him to play himself into the Prem at Saints first then he will walk into their first team , Ha Ha !

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    Quote Originally Posted by East Kent Saint View Post
    Liverpool will tell him to play himself into the Prem at Saints first then he will walk into their first team , Ha Ha !
    That's our best chance of getting him TBF, but they not want to pay a premium again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    That's our best chance of getting him TBF, but they not want to pay a premium again.
    Because signing Mane, van Dijk etc worked out so badly for them?

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