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    Pretty crazy how easily everyone has accepted giving up their civil liberties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedArmy View Post
    Pretty crazy how easily everyone has accepted giving up their civil liberties.
    Are. You. Serious.

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    ‘Use food delivery services where you can.’
    Might be able to get a slot in late May if you’re quick, ffs.

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    The prisons are going to be rammed with this persistent 2 times a day runners

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    Still seeing stuff on social media saying the direction is not very clear!

    My god!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Wow

    Which clown said if this was a weapon, it would be a pretty feeble one
    Weston I believe, in response to me.

    Better get used to this sort of stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Still seeing stuff on social media saying the direction is not very clear!

    My god!
    Mind boggling really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedArmy View Post
    Pretty crazy how easily everyone has accepted giving up their civil liberties.
    Happy to give them up if it saves the lives of my fellow countrymen tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadhall Saint View Post
    Happy to give them up if it saves the lives of my fellow countrymen tbh
    For only a few weeks too

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Just watched Boris. All of us in the pub couldn't believe what we were hearing.
    I spat my beer all over the three blokes opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Still seeing stuff on social media saying the direction is not very clear!

    My god!
    That’s because it isn’t. Too many unanswered questions. “Travelling to and from work”. Work is not always done at just one place.

    It might be clear to certain people in certain situations, but there are many instances where this guidance is undefined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    For only a few weeks too
    The hassle I’ll go through over those few weeks will be nothing compared to the families that will lose loved ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    That’s because it isn’t. Too many unanswered questions. “Travelling to and from work”. Work is not always done at just one place.

    It might be clear to certain people in certain situations, but there are many instances where this guidance is undefined.
    Let's be honest. Unless you are a key worker, you should not be working if it cannot be done at home.

    Obvious really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    That’s because it isn’t. Too many unanswered questions. “Travelling to and from work”. Work is not always done at just one place.

    It might be clear to certain people in certain situations, but there are many instances where this guidance is undefined.
    This.

    Is a builder ‘essential’? To me - yes, personally, but there’s 3 of them on my job - so will they get dispersed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Let's be honest. Unless you are a key worker, you should not be working if it cannot be done at home.

    Obvious really
    Why didn’t he say they then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SO16_Saint01 View Post
    This.

    Is a builder ‘essential’? To me - yes, personally, but there’s 3 of them on my job - so will they get dispersed?
    Are they listed key workers?

    Just seen a post on Facebook where someone will be opening their hair salon tomorrow as that is also essential!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Let's be honest. Unless you are a key worker, you should not be working if it cannot be done at home.

    Obvious really
    How about services that support key workers? What if an ambulance needs a new tyre, or some diesel?
    If someone works in co-op, are they a key worker or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    How about services that support key workers? What if an ambulance needs a new tyre, or some diesel?
    If someone works in co-op, are they a key worker or not?
    The contracts that supports emergency vehicles will remain extant and those workers know this.

    A mechanic at your local garage without such contract, who can quickly MOT your car, will have to shut

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    Strong measures although still some things open to interpretation.

    It's obvious by the lack of traffic that a lot of people are already staying at home but there's loads of companies who will still be telling their staff to come in because they don't want to lose money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    The contracts that supports emergency vehicles will remain extant and those workers know this.

    A mechanic at your local garage without such contract, who can quickly MOT your car, will have to shut
    Fair enough, you probably know emergency protocols better than I do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    How about services that support key workers? What if an ambulance needs a new tyre, or some diesel?
    If someone works in co-op, are they a key worker or not?
    Surely 99% of this is obvious.

    The emergency services will have their own maintenance contracts. Supermarkets, petrol stations and chemists will remain open. Top Shop, Ann Summers and Games Workshop won’t. Various transport services also count as essential, I’m sure their line managers are capable of marking competent decisions on who needs to be at work and who doesn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    Fair enough, you probably know emergency protocols better than I do!
    I said way further up that the planning gone into this, just from the area I have visibility on, has been on a level we have not seen ever in peace time.

    All to save the NHS, otherwise, we are all done!

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    😂😂😂😂

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    That was in response to CB Fry’s post further up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Let's be honest. Unless you are a key worker, you should not be working if it cannot be done at home.

    Obvious really
    “Obvious really”

    What is that supposed to mean? If you have a business that desperately needs some finance to see it through the next month how do you “do that from home”? If you have manufacturing contracts to fulfill, how do you “do that from home”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    “Obvious really”

    What is that supposed to mean? If you have a business that desperately needs some finance to see it through the next month how do you “do that from home”? If you have manufacturing contracts to fulfill, how do you “do that from home”?
    That is a different argument to what is being instructed by the PM.


    No good worrying about a business if you are dead!

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    I'm also a bit confused by some reactions I've seen on twitter, one post saying ''It's not lock-down, so I'm not staying in'' - I mean, what on gods earth do you have to do? Personally, I'd let those dicks go out and just taser the ****ers for 3 weeks non-stop.

    I would say that the 'going to work' element is a bit confusing and needs urgent clarity. What is essential to some isn't essential to others, what can be done remotely can't be done for others - and that's across all sectors.

    He just needs to say that the only people leaving the house for work should be key workers and that will put an end to the uncertainty - otherwise this is open to business interpretation (construction firms, docks, industry etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    That is a different argument to what is being instructed by the PM.


    No good worrying about a business if you are dead!
    But if that business employs several people who would otherwise lose their jobs?

    Please don’t mention the government’s lans to offer financial help. There are no details yet as to how that will be arranged, and anyway somebody has to be there to try to get the help. At both ends of the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    I'm also a bit confused by some reactions I've seen on twitter, one post saying ''It's not lock-down, so I'm not staying in'' - I mean, what on gods earth do you have to do? Personally, I'd let those dicks go out and just taser the ****ers for 3 weeks non-stop.

    I would say that the 'going to work' element is a bit confusing and needs urgent clarity. What is essential to some isn't essential to others, what can be done remotely can't be done for others - and that's across all sectors.

    He just needs to say that the only people leaving the house for work should be key workers and that will put an end to the uncertainty - otherwise this is open to business interpretation (construction firms, docks, industry etc)
    But if he says that only key workers can go out hundreds of thousands of businesses will go bust in a matter of days, not weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    But if that business employs several people who would otherwise lose their jobs?

    Please don’t mention the government’s lans to offer financial help. There are no details yet as to how that will be arranged, and anyway somebody has to be there to try to get the help. At both ends of the line.
    They can crack on if they want. Risk being killed by the virus, or at best, a hefty fine.

    Not sure who many would expect to sell their goods to. But each to their own.

    We are a breath away from tougher lockdowns, like they have in France. Where you are awarded a e1000 fine on the spot and a scrap with a soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Surely 99% of this is obvious.

    The emergency services will have their own maintenance contracts. Supermarkets, petrol stations and chemists will remain open. Top Shop, Ann Summers and Games Workshop won’t. Various transport services also count as essential, I’m sure their line managers are capable of marking competent decisions on who needs to be at work and who doesn’t.
    As a Tube worker we’ve been told we’re not closing to keep ferrying the key workers around. The problem is staff are dropping like flies as they self isolate because they or one of their household have Covid 19 symptoms, and that is largely because they are coming into contact with customers despite posters advising the social distancing 2 metres and posters saying essential travel only. Luckily for me, as a Station Supervisor of one of the smaller stations, I can position myself in the office, minimising direct contact with customers. There have been a couple of incidents in the last couple of days on other lines than mine, involving customers collapsing with Covid 19 symptoms, which staff and other customers have obviously been exposed to. Rush hour this morning was a lot busier than I was expecting, I wait to see how busy tomorrow is.

    This is an unprecedented and unique situation. Unfortunately there will still be people out there that don’t respect authority and will flaunt the new guidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    But if that business employs several people who would otherwise lose their jobs?

    Please don’t mention the government’s lans to offer financial help. There are no details yet as to how that will be arranged, and anyway somebody has to be there to try to get the help. At both ends of the line.
    WG you are the PM what message would you give?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    But if he says that only key workers can go out hundreds of thousands of businesses will go bust in a matter of days, not weeks.
    It's such a tricky balancing act, but the government are doing a lot to help all businesses. Will prob get further help going forward.

    I think without that clarity you'll still get commutes full of people, like we saw today on the tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Wow

    Which clown said if this was a weapon, it would be a pretty feeble one
    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    Weston I believe, in response to me.

    Better get used to this sort of stuff...
    Which clowns seriously believe this is a weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    But if he says that only key workers can go out hundreds of thousands of businesses will go bust in a matter of days, not weeks.
    I would hazard an educated guess that there are a lot of casual foreign workers in London getting paid cash in hand. Illegal,yes, but if that stops they’ll either resort to crime or die. Which means non -essential travel, at least in London, will continue until greater measures are put in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    They can crack on if they want. Risk being killed by the virus, or at best, a hefty fine.

    Not sure who many would expect to sell their goods to. But each to their own.

    We are a breath away from tougher lockdowns, like they have in France. Where you are awarded a e1000 fine on the spot and a scrap with a soldier.
    I’m not talking about companies that make goods and then hope to sell them. There are many companies that have contracts to fulfil and if they don’t supply these contracts then they so get paid and if they don’t get paid then they can’t pay their staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    It's such a tricky balancing act, but the government are doing a lot to help all businesses. Will prob get further help going forward.

    I think without that clarity you'll still get commutes full of people, like we saw today on the tube.
    All this help is great, but you have to wonder at the size of the deep recession that is inbound!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    It's such a tricky balancing act, but the government are doing a lot to help all businesses. Will prob get further help going forward.

    I think without that clarity you'll still get commutes full of people, like we saw today on the tube.
    The government aren’t doing anything at the moment. At the moment it’s all promises but no actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Still seeing stuff on social media saying the direction is not very clear!

    My god!
    Yep. Couldn't have been clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Yep. Couldn't have been clearer.
    Clear as mud.

    What counts as “absolutely cannot be done from home”? I can think of loads of examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    Weston I believe, in response to me.

    Better get used to this sort of stuff...
    Classic Westie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Clear as mud.

    What counts as “absolutely cannot be done from home”? I can think of loads of examples.
    You are correct.

    But these are exceptional times and people will lose their jobs and their lives

    Tragic, I know, but the whole economic machine is grinding to a halt as we speak. This is unprecedented in this country.

    We will be paying for decades I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellingtonSaint View Post
    Where are you based SiP?
    My abode is in Tauranga.

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    How about deliveries? Royal Mail / DHL etc. Will these carry on or be suspended do we think? No, I’m not concerned about any bloody Amazon orders, just trying to gauge the scale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    How about deliveries? Royal Mail / DHL etc. Will these carry on or be suspended do we think? No, I’m not concerned about any bloody Amazon orders, just trying to gauge the scale!
    I’ve just ordered an angle grinder from Amazon and some other bits from Toolstation. I’ll let you know if any of it turns up in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    How about deliveries? Royal Mail / DHL etc. Will these carry on or be suspended do we think? No, I’m not concerned about any bloody Amazon orders, just trying to gauge the scale!
    Can only imagine deliveries will continue (generally lonesome job,) with all priority given to the coronavirus effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    I’ve just ordered an angle grinder from Amazon and some other bits from Toolstation. I’ll let you know if any of it turns up in the near future.
    Ordered a book from Amazon on Saturday - arrived this lunchtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Wow

    Which clown said if this was a weapon, it would be a pretty feeble one
    Oppenheimer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    As a Tube worker we’ve been told we’re not closing to keep ferrying the key workers around. The problem is staff are dropping like flies as they self isolate because they or one of their household have Covid 19 symptoms, and that is largely because they are coming into contact with customers despite posters advising the social distancing 2 metres and posters saying essential travel only. Luckily for me, as a Station Supervisor of one of the smaller stations, I can position myself in the office, minimising direct contact with customers. There have been a couple of incidents in the last couple of days on other lines than mine, involving customers collapsing with Covid 19 symptoms, which staff and other customers have obviously been exposed to. Rush hour this morning was a lot busier than I was expecting, I wait to see how busy tomorrow is.

    This is an unprecedented and unique situation. Unfortunately there will still be people out there that don’t respect authority and will flaunt the new guidelines.
    I think there’s a certain tolerance of idiocy built in to most of the predictions. If everyone was able to stick to the governments advice rigidly, 99% of people would only spread it to people in our own homes. It would basically be over in a month. Sadly that won’t happen. Partly due to stupidity and partly due to people such as yourselves, who are forced into social interaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Still seeing stuff on social media saying the direction is not very clear!

    My god!
    Do you think might be wise to stay off social media?
    Seems many getting worked up by MLT. Don’t think it is doing any of us any good

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