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    We can assume that Romeu and Adams will start as they were given a run out in the U23's last night.

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    Why would U23 starts mean they start at the weekend? Can't see Romeu starting and Adams almost never does. Just game time for them.

    Imagine it'll be back to Ings and Long up front and JWP in midfield. Surely one of Valery or KWP can play this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    We can assume that Romeu and Adams will start as they were given a run out in the U23's last night.
    Odd conclusion you've jumped to there!

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    Ideal opportunity to give Adams a full game alongside Ings. So won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Odd conclusion you've jumped to there!
    Not if you want them to be match fit and ready to go. Let's face it Smallbone and Obafemi didn't exactly tear up any trees at the Olympic Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    These type of posts really are laughable...
    Why? It's true

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    Why? It's true
    It really isn't. Someone can still be a fan despite not buying a ticket for a particular match. I'm not willing to spend 40/60 to see us play Newcastle and I'm still a committed fan.

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    Looks like Newcastle got a strong team out tonight. Extra time, penalities, a red card or two and the odd injury (not too serious, just a week out) would all be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    To be fair, Saint-Maximin does have a touch of the old Adama Traores about him: great ability, dribbling, speed, but hopeless end product.

    Someone decent will take a punt on him if he becomes available and see if they can't harness all that potential.

    I'd have him at Saints in a heartbeat.

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    He has that combination of pace and power that we pretty much struggle with every time we encounter it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Looks like Newcastle got a strong team out tonight. Extra time, penalities, a red card or two and the odd injury (not too serious, just a week out) would all be good.

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    Sadly it's looking like a nice little confidence boost instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Sadly it's looking like a nice little confidence boost instead.
    Yep. Broken their goal drought and now three up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Yep. Broken their goal drought and now three up.

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    Ended 2-3 and WBA unlucky not to draw Almiron and Saint Maximin look handful


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    Funny people were worried about Andy Carroll , looking at line up tonight of course one man guaranteed to score on Saturday is Shelvey.

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    We wont win this.

    They will do exactly what Burnley do. Defend deep, keep it tight, knowing we will gift them chances.

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    Another team we struggle to beat and can’t see this going any other way than a 1-2 loss. We’re going to be sucked into another messy relegation battle unless something extra can be found. Djenepo and Boufal are not showing enough to replace even Redmond, Adams still not showing enough striking quality, Hojberg (our Captain) is looking half the player he was and wants away, our defence is still flaky. Squad is paper thin in quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Fan CaM View Post
    Another team we struggle to beat and can’t see this going any other way than a 1-2 loss. We’re going to be sucked into another messy relegation battle unless something extra can be found. Djenepo and Boufal are not showing enough to replace even Redmond, Adams still not showing enough striking quality, Hojberg (our Captain) is looking half the player he was and wants away, our defence is still flaky. Squad is paper thin in quality.
    Harsh on Djenepo, he was MOM against Villa, caused them all sort of problems and was picked out for his performance by MOTD etc. and then his mum died, so he wasn't involved against West Ham.

    Newcastle are pretty average at best, they are in relegation form they haven't scored a goal in the league in the last 4 and that includes failing to score against Oxford Utd and they have sneaked through 3-2 in the FA Cup against a championship and league 1 team.

    They are relying on their very flukey results from the first half of the season, where they parked the bus and fluked goals from centre-backs, now that is not happening as much, they aren't scoring and they are making more mistakes at the back/

    I expect a much better showing from our team, Ralph seemed pretty angry with them and I reckon he'll have give them a bollocking, I reckon we'll win.

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    Really hope I'm wrong, but this has either got 0-0 or 1-0 Newcastle written all over it.

    We can't break down teams at home due to lack of creativity and Newcastle will sit deep and try to hit us on the break with the pace of Almiron and Saint-Maximum. If the latter has hit shooting boots on Saturday and they are clinical it could be a long afternoon.

    Until Ralph finds a way of overcoming the Burnley's, West Ham's and Newcastle's of this league expect the same results time and time again.

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    A game where if we concede first it's going to be horrible.

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    Newcastle are absolute pants and haven't scored in the league for 4 games.

    + They also have less time to prepare after last night's game and today likely being a recovery day.

    3-0 Saints (Che x2 and Valery with the goals)

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    This one looks like a draw to me although, obviously, I hope for better.

    I can see us crawling over the line rather than pushing on.

    Saint-Maximin worries me. If he gets into his stride we have no-one to stop him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallBoy View Post
    Saint-Maximin worries me. If he gets into his stride we have no-one to stop him.
    He has 1 PL goal and 1 assist. Lots of PL sides have been able to stop him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    He has 1 PL goal and 1 assist. Lots of PL sides have been able to stop him...
    And Almiron only has 2 goals and 1 assist in the PL from 27 games.

    I am not sure why people are so scared of these players, they are fast sure, but they don't contribute much, they seem similar to what Troare was a few years ago, lots of pace and dribbling but no end product.

    Between them they have 3 goals and 2 assists from 43 games.

    Djenepo has 2 goals and 2 assists from only 9 starts.

    Their top scorer is Shelvey with just 5, and the 4 centre-backs are their joint second top scorers, we should be more worried about defending set pieces IMO.

    They have only scored 24 goals all season (worse in the league) and literally 50% of those goals have come from set pieces, only one of their goals has come on the counter attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    He has 1 PL goal and 1 assist. Lots of PL sides have been able to stop him...
    Pace and power are attributes we can easily nullify!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Pace and power are attributes we can easily nullify!
    Yes, through team work!

    Ward-Prowse is no where near as quick as Zaha. Still kept him in his back pocket, with help from teammates.

    If Ward-Prowse isn't used again at right back and Walker-Peters or Valery start then along with Bertrand we have some quick fullbacks.

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    I see Wanyama was available on a free. We have no one with the muscle to deal with fast, physical and muscular players (like Newcastle has). That looks like negligence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    I see Wanyama was available on a free. We have no one with the muscle to deal with fast, physical and muscular players (like Newcastle has). That looks like negligence.
    There is a reason he has been signed by Montreal Impact... he is not remotely the player he used to be. His knees have had it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Pace and power are attributes we can easily nullify!
    its fine mate, if you remove the games against us Michal Antonio only has 1 PL goal and 1 assist this season too, plenty of other sides have been able to stop him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    And Almiron only has 2 goals and 1 assist in the PL from 27 games.

    I am not sure why people are so scared of these players, they are fast sure, but they don't contribute much, they seem similar to what Troare was a few years ago, lots of pace and dribbling but no end product.
    It's not that anyone thinks they are good. It's because these are the players that always seem to score against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    And Almiron only has 2 goals and 1 assist in the PL from 27 games.

    I am not sure why people are so scared of these players, they are fast sure, but they don't contribute much, they seem similar to what Troare was a few years ago, lots of pace and dribbling but no end product.

    Between them they have 3 goals and 2 assists from 43 games.

    Djenepo has 2 goals and 2 assists from only 9 starts.

    Their top scorer is Shelvey with just 5, and the 4 centre-backs are their joint second top scorers, we should be more worried about defending set pieces IMO.

    They have only scored 24 goals all season (worse in the league) and literally 50% of those goals have come from set pieces, only one of their goals has come on the counter attack.
    That`s encouraging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfp1 View Post
    It's not that anyone thinks they are good. It's because these are the players that always seem to score against us.
    They don't particularly score against anyone.

    Of course they might score, but its far more likely Newcastle won't score at all, will score from a set piece/long shot or from a bad defensive error from us.

    Particularly as we are likely to have more of the ball and we don't seem to be very good when that happens.

    I am not worried about Newcastle scoring, its us scoring that is going to be the issue, especially if Redmond and Djenepo continue to be out and JWP has to play right back again.

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    Shelvey seems to do well against us, some I think that we should move JWP back into midfield to "****house" him.

    At the back, it is probably best not to start with a 3 with Vestigaard, as he will struggle if Newcastle don't go long to Joelton, but break with pace instead in the wide areas If Djenepo is OK, I would play a normal back 4 with Vallery or KWP at right back, and then switch to a back 3 if required by moving Bertrand over and using Djenepo as a wing back. like the end of the Spurs home cup game.

    Not sure who should partner Ings up front, as Long was hiding behind defenders last week and you can't press a team that are happy to give you possession, or get behind a team that play a solid block of 8/9 on the edge of their box.

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    Djenepo in today's training pics. Couldn't see Boufal or Bertrand but they were in yesterday's pics.

    Looks like a full squad is pretty much available, minus Redmond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    Andy Carroll is just back from injury it seems. So off the bench to get a couple of headed goals, and then go off injured again for 6 months?
    Has he actually played since he battered us up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefoggy View Post
    Has he actually played since he battered us up there?
    Probably not much.

    Latest from physio room:

    Mar 02: "We know the issue we have got. Unfortunately, we can't seem to get him right. It is nothing to do with his ankle. It is frustrating but we hope he is back in the next couple of weeks."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    Probably not much.

    Latest from physio room:

    Mar 02: "We know the issue we have got. Unfortunately, we can't seem to get him right. It is nothing to do with his ankle. It is frustrating but we hope he is back in the next couple of weeks."

    Is that from March 2002 ?

    Certainly seems he's been injured for ages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Is that from March 2002 ?

    Certainly seems he's been injured for ages
    and still being paid a tidy sum along the way, great being a footie player, still at least Newcastle set his contract at a mere 22.5k per week and 70k only if he plays.

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    Would go....

    --------------McCarthy
    ----KWP Bednarek Stephens Bertrand
    ------------JWP Hojbjerg
    ----Armstrong--------Djenepo
    -----------Long--Ings

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    Team picks itself surely no mucking about with formations please Ralph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Garrett View Post
    Would go....

    --------------McCarthy
    ----KWP Bednarek Stephens Bertrand
    ------------JWP Hojbjerg
    ----Armstrong--------Djenepo
    -----------Long--Ings
    Yep. Could arguably have Valery at RB instead but it's a coin toss for me. I just want to see JWP back in the middle where he belongs. I've got a feeling though that we'll see something different, 3 at the back perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Yep. Could arguably have Valery at RB instead but it's a coin toss for me. I just want to see JWP back in the middle where he belongs. I've got a feeling though that we'll see something different, 3 at the back perhaps.
    As I posted earlier, picking that team allows you to switch to a back 3 , using KWP and Djenepo as wing backs, without using a sub. Ralph did this in a recent home gem, Spurs maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    They couldn't wish for more accommodating opponents next week to end that then.

    Newcastle are away to WBA in the Cup on Tuesday. Maybe that will help us.
    Was a decent win for them to give a bit of confidence, might end up working against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Yep. Could arguably have Valery at RB instead but it's a coin toss for me. I just want to see JWP back in the middle where he belongs. I've got a feeling though that we'll see something different, 3 at the back perhaps.
    I hope not, the problem we have is whoever players at the back isn't good enough, sometimes we get away with it sometimes we don't. But that's the position we are in and what happens when a manager is here for 3 transfer windows and only allowed to bring two players in (which he had to fund via sales)

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    Smallbone and Armstrong unavailable according to Hasenhuttl.

    Smallbone ill and Armstrong not trained due to concussion vs West Ham.

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    Can see us changing the system for Newcastle now without Stu, he's vital in a 4-2-2-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    Can see us changing the system for Newcastle now without Stu, he's vital in a 4-2-2-2.
    Hasenhuttl talked today about using Boufal and Djenepo. So could be them behind Ings and Long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Hasenhuttl talked today about using Boufal and Djenepo. So could be them behind Ings and Long.
    Long in a game like this is useless

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    I don't think he will start Boufal and Djenpo, even though I would. Boufal was very poor against West Ham, but promising the last home game he played before he went off injured.

    I think he will do:

    McCarthy
    KWP
    Bednarek
    Stephens
    Bertrand

    JWP
    Romeu
    PEH
    Djenpo

    Ings
    Long

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    Long in a game like this is useless
    Totally agree, in a game where they will sit on their penalty area and surrender 70% possession, Long's good qualities aren't best served in a game like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint97 View Post
    Long in a game like this is useless
    His Schlong has momentum at St Mary’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    I see Wanyama was available on a free. We have no one with the muscle to deal with fast, physical and muscular players (like Newcastle has). That looks like negligence.
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    Yes, pity that we didn't make an approach before he signed up to play in the States.

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