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    We're just shopping normally, Morrisons yesterday no milk and very little fresh veg, same at local co op this morning. We've got enough to cover us but it's obvious there are a lot of pillocks around. My daughter has a weekly online slot so we can get her to get us anything we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    We're just shopping normally, Morrisons yesterday no milk and very little fresh veg, same at local co op this morning. We've got enough to cover us but it's obvious there are a lot of pillocks around. My daughter has a weekly online slot so we can get her to get us anything we need.
    Don't bet on it my last Asda delivery was missing 30 out of 72 items. Our next one is still a week away (had to book two weeks ago) and stuff was literally being marked up as out of stock 30 seconds after it had gone into the shopping basket god knows how much will actually turn up when it is delivered.

    The country has gone ****ing nuts. Just been to our local Co-op to try and pick up some milk and bread it looked like the place had been looted in a riot shelves where pretty much empty. My son tried five different shops this morning trying to source a loaf of bread and a few eggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Don't bet on it my last Asda delivery was missing 30 out of 72 items. Our next one is still a week away (had to book two weeks ago) and stuff was literally being marked up as out of stock 30 seconds after it had gone into the shopping basket god knows how much will actually turn up when it is delivered.

    The country has gone ****ing nuts. Just been to our local Co-op to try and pick up some milk and bread it looked like the place had been looted in a riot shelves where pretty much empty. My son tried five different shops this morning trying to source a loaf of bread and a few eggs.
    Havenít seen an egg for a while now

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    "Social distancing measures would need to be in place for up to a year to prevent pressure on the NHS." BBC News

    Surely, this means we can forget talk of football being resumed in May/June? Even the start of next season in August must be in doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    "Social distancing measures would need to be in place for up to a year to prevent pressure on the NHS." BBC News

    Surely, this means we can forget talk of football being resumed in May/June? Even the start of next season in August must be in doubt.
    no mate. we 'must' finish the season to ensure liverpool win the league and hijack the whole COVID 19 thing to make it all about them.

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    Well according to my phone the government is forcing the closing of all pubs, clubs, restaurants and gyms. It seems asking the British public nicely not to go these places didn't really work (much like asking people politely not to panic buy) rationing will have to be the next step if people don't start behaving properly. Can't see anyway that this football season can be finished in any meaningful time frame about time the footballing authorities stopped kidding themselves..

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    Problem is if they don’t finish the season they don’t get the Sky money. They don’t get that then the whole lot of them go bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadhall Saint View Post
    Havenít seen an egg for a while now
    My missus is saying she's seeing too much of me. The cooking sort though, not for a while. No idea what the hoarders are gonna do with them. I guess bake and freeze?

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    My missus is saying she's seeing too much of me. The cooking sort though, not for a while. No idea what the hoarders are gonna do with them. I guess bake and freeze?
    I think the chickens are getting their own back for the way they were shabbily treated over bird flu.

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    Wrong thread.
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    Should the reason resume at the start of May,which I think is very unlikely, what would be the first fixture? Would it be Norwich away? Or would it be Brighton home - which the website currently says? If the postponed six games are tacked on to the end it could have a significant impact on the outcome of our season. Because suddenly we end the season with City home, Everton away and United away - the ending from hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    "Social distancing measures would need to be in place for up to a year to prevent pressure on the NHS." BBC News

    Surely, this means we can forget talk of football being resumed in May/June? Even the start of next season in August must be in doubt.
    Under what circumstances do they finish it behind closed doors (but on TV)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wild-saint View Post
    I think we will have 6 months plus before we are even remotely getting past it. Although in London its really quiet but outside people are largely ignoring the social distancing.

    As for stocking up for food im unsure why people are surprised. I loaded up on all the non perishable **** like rice, pasta and canned food back in the middle of February as it was blindingly obvious what was going to happen with the shops once the main stream accepted what was happening.

    As for my shares they were all sold @ end of January. Looks like it wont be long before i can stat to renter. Easy money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintBobby View Post
    Under what circumstances do they finish it behind closed doors (but on TV)?
    Under circumstances in which they can play a match where the players stay at least three metres from each other? If I were a player I would absolutely refuse to go play while this is still going on. Why would they put themselves and their families at risk just for other people's entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    Under circumstances in which they can play a match where the players stay at least three metres from each other? If I were a player I would absolutely refuse to go play while this is still going on. Why would they put themselves and their families at risk just for other people's entertainment.
    End of season bonuses will be a big incentive

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    Under circumstances in which they can play a match where the players stay at least three metres from each other? If I were a player I would absolutely refuse to go play while this is still going on. Why would they put themselves and their families at risk just for other people's entertainment.
    I guess once we’re past the peak there is no reason players can’t be tested before the game. It only needs to be the starting 11s plus subs, refs and a few coaching staff. A guy on the radio said they have developed a test that gives results in 2 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    Under circumstances in which they can play a match where the players stay at least three metres from each other? If I were a player I would absolutely refuse to go play while this is still going on. Why would they put themselves and their families at risk just for other people's entertainment.
    It's been a very long time since football was "just for other people's entertainment".

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    Judging by some comments on here and people I know, I honestly think a few people (hopefully a minority but seems to be a large minority) are in denial about the seriousness of this outbreak - have you seen the Sky coverage of Italian hospitals? Understandable to an extent as the younger generation (below 50) have not seen any real hardship.

    We're not seeing football or any other sport in a long while folks - let the clever/political guys figure out how the season end is called, but there will be no more physical games played this season.

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    Danish supermarkets apparently have cracked the panic buying. First item say £2, second item say £100 in the bar code computer. Stopped it dead according to reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    second item say £100 in the bar code computer.
    Sounds about normal for Denmark tbf

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Danish supermarkets apparently have cracked the panic buying. First item say £2, second item say £100 in the bar code computer. Stopped it dead according to reports.
    Was that in Copenhagen? Sounds like first item heavily discounted, the second standard Copenhagen prices!

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    Quote Originally Posted by derry View Post
    Danish supermarkets apparently have cracked the panic buying. First item say £2, second item say £100 in the bar code computer. Stopped it dead according to reports.
    My missus wouldnít even notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattio View Post
    They are now 4 down (another one tested positive) - karma ??
    Ps. this is only a flippant comment, no deep offence intended !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosaint View Post
    They are now 4 down (another one tested positive) - karma ??
    Ps. this is only a flippant comment, no deep offence intended !!
    Haven't seen any reports of positive tests at SFC yet, the skates will no doubt be claiming that's 4-0 to them and trumps our 4-0 in their own back yard.

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    Lead story on bbc football, saints think league can be finished by june - insane and insensitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwichsaint View Post
    Lead story on bbc football, saints think league can be finished by june - insane and insensitive.
    Did you actually read what he said before getting upset about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Did you actually read what he said before getting upset about it?
    Quite.

    What he's said makes a lot of sense. There will obviously be a way, in a couple of months time, to put on football matches.

    The nation, by then, will need entertainment, things to look forward to and talk about.

    Sport can do that.

    In mid-May, after two months of everything shut and weeks and weeks of daily news about deaths, children climbing up the walls at home, people without purpose or work, the country is going to be at breaking point.

    If in June there are tests to test the 50 or so people required to put on a behind closed doors football match then I think they will start doing that. If the widespread national testing of people is underway then it would be completely appropriate.

    The fragile national consensus of "let's all stay in forever" will be straining and some entertainment/news/focus/collectivism may help to keep it going.

    The idea that we can beat this virus by months and months of solemn purgatory at a national scale is misguided. Distraction will be required.

    I'm expecting the BBC and ITV to put on some entertainment events to bring people together, and Sky putting on a week of back to back Premier League football (for free) could clearly be part of it.

    This isn't China. You can't keep British people indoors with soldiers on the corner of the street. But you can with entertainment. It's the only weapons weve got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Quite.

    What he's said makes a lot of sense. There will obviously be a way, in a couple of months time, to put on football matches.

    The nation, by then, will need entertainment, things to look forward to and talk about.

    Sport can do that.

    In mid-May, after two months of everything shut and weeks and weeks of daily news about deaths, children climbing up the walls at home, people without purpose or work, the country is going to be at breaking point.

    If in June there are tests to test the 50 or so people required to put on a behind closed doors football match then I think they will start doing that. If the widespread national testing of people is underway then it would be completely appropriate.

    The fragile national consensus of "let's all stay in forever" will be straining and some entertainment/news/focus/collectivism may help to keep it going.

    The idea that we can beat this virus by months and months of solemn purgatory at a national scale is misguided. Distraction will be required.

    I'm expecting the BBC and ITV to put on some entertainment events to bring people together, and Sky putting on a week of back to back Premier League football (for free) could clearly be part of it.

    This isn't China. You can't keep British people indoors with soldiers on the corner of the street. But you can with entertainment. It's the only weapons weve got.
    👏 Brilliant post

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Quite.

    What he's said makes a lot of sense. There will obviously be a way, in a couple of months time, to put on football matches.

    The nation, by then, will need entertainment, things to look forward to and talk about.

    Sport can do that.

    In mid-May, after two months of everything shut and weeks and weeks of daily news about deaths, children climbing up the walls at home, people without purpose or work, the country is going to be at breaking point.

    If in June there are tests to test the 50 or so people required to put on a behind closed doors football match then I think they will start doing that. If the widespread national testing of people is underway then it would be completely appropriate.

    The fragile national consensus of "let's all stay in forever" will be straining and some entertainment/news/focus/collectivism may help to keep it going.

    The idea that we can beat this virus by months and months of solemn purgatory at a national scale is misguided. Distraction will be required.

    I'm expecting the BBC and ITV to put on some entertainment events to bring people together, and Sky putting on a week of back to back Premier League football (for free) could clearly be part of it.

    This isn't China. You can't keep British people indoors with soldiers on the corner of the street. But you can with entertainment. It's the only weapons weve got.
    Exactly!

    Whilst many of us don't care right now, in a month or two time, when we're sick of re-runs of everything, everyone, and I mean EVERYONE will be crying out and welcoming behind closed doors, competitive football. It will help us stay in and help this pass by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Quite.

    What he's said makes a lot of sense. There will obviously be a way, in a couple of months time, to put on football matches.

    The nation, by then, will need entertainment, things to look forward to and talk about.

    Sport can do that.

    In mid-May, after two months of everything shut and weeks and weeks of daily news about deaths, children climbing up the walls at home, people without purpose or work, the country is going to be at breaking point.

    If in June there are tests to test the 50 or so people required to put on a behind closed doors football match then I think they will start doing that. If the widespread national testing of people is underway then it would be completely appropriate.

    The fragile national consensus of "let's all stay in forever" will be straining and some entertainment/news/focus/collectivism may help to keep it going.

    The idea that we can beat this virus by months and months of solemn purgatory at a national scale is misguided. Distraction will be required.

    I'm expecting the BBC and ITV to put on some entertainment events to bring people together, and Sky putting on a week of back to back Premier League football (for free) could clearly be part of it.

    This isn't China. You can't keep British people indoors with soldiers on the corner of the street. But you can with entertainment. It's the only weapons weve got.
    Spot on.

    I’m not really sure how anyone who read what semmens actually said can consider it “insane” or “insensitive”

    He was as you say merely expressing after a couple of months of misery football can be the first shot in the arm to show people some sense of normality is returning, but he also says only when it’s safe and the NHS and police aren’t overrun. Strange how anyone can interpret it any differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Spot on.

    I’m not really sure how anyone who read what semmens actually said can consider it “insane” or “insensitive”

    He was as you say merely expressing after a couple of months of misery football can be the first shot in the arm to show people some sense of normality is returning, but he also says only when it’s safe and the NHS and police aren’t overrun. Strange how anyone can interpret it any differently.
    So it can't be finished by June then surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    So it can't be finished by June then surely?
    He didn’t say it would be. He said “we hope to” Read what he said it’s not hard. I’ll even help you by posting the link.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51990101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    He didn’t say it would be. He said “we hope to” Read what he said it’s not hard. I’ll even help you by posting the link.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51990101
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Quite.

    What he's said makes a lot of sense. There will obviously be a way, in a couple of months time, to put on football matches.

    The nation, by then, will need entertainment, things to look forward to and talk about.

    Sport can do that.

    In mid-May, after two months of everything shut and weeks and weeks of daily news about deaths, children climbing up the walls at home, people without purpose or work, the country is going to be at breaking point.

    If in June there are tests to test the 50 or so people required to put on a behind closed doors football match then I think they will start doing that. If the widespread national testing of people is underway then it would be completely appropriate.

    The fragile national consensus of "let's all stay in forever" will be straining and some entertainment/news/focus/collectivism may help to keep it going.

    The idea that we can beat this virus by months and months of solemn purgatory at a national scale is misguided. Distraction will be required.

    I'm expecting the BBC and ITV to put on some entertainment events to bring people together, and Sky putting on a week of back to back Premier League football (for free) could clearly be part of it.

    This isn't China. You can't keep British people indoors with soldiers on the corner of the street. But you can with entertainment. It's the only weapons weve got.
    This is exactly why this situation is getting worse. Dear God just how stupid and irresponsible can some people get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattio View Post
    This is insane. Why the **** are league 1 footballers who are young and are in social distancing measures getting tested, and yet NHS workers who could actually help this ****storm are forced to self isolate for 14days if their kid gets a cough rather than get tested themselves. It’s ****ing obscene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc oli View Post
    This is insane. Why the **** are league 1 footballers who are young and are in social distancing measures getting tested, and yet NHS workers who could actually help this ****storm are forced to self isolate for 14days if their kid gets a cough rather than get tested themselves. It’s ****ing obscene.
    I understand that the Skate players were tested because they had played Arsenal just after they played Olympiakos where there was a known problem (and Arteta got it as well) !
    Totally agree that health workers should get absolute priority and fail to see where the testing kits came from for the footballers !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosaint View Post
    I understand that the Skate players were tested because they had played Arsenal just after they played Olympiakos where there was a known problem (and Arteta got it as well) !
    Totally agree that health workers should get absolute priority and fail to see where the testing kits came from for the footballers !!
    they probably went private.

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    When the time is right to resume football

    televise every premier league game adjust kick offs to allow 2-3 games per day, ideally free to all if not at a discounted rate i.e. reduced nowtv day passes, sell amazon more games
    Have daily match of the day with extended highlights of the days 2-3 matches

    Allow lower leagues to show all matches online for a small fee to boost finances

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    You can get a test done for £370 in Harley St , according to reports in the press. You may be clear but I assume it won't stop you catching it after the test ! They say they are developing a test to show if you have had it already ( checking antibodies I think) it which case you are OK to work in a hospital etc so I presume you won't get it twice .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    This is exactly why this situation is getting worse. Dear God just how stupid and irresponsible can some people get?
    He's right though. Whilst we need to do everything we can now to stop the spread of the virus, the measures we are taking now simply aren't a ling term solution. You can't just lock the entire population in their houses/appartments indefinitely and hope we find a vaccine. People will go mad. We'll have a depression, both mentally and economically.

    Quote Originally Posted by East Kent Saint View Post
    You can get a test done for £370 in Harley St , according to reports in the press. You may be clear but I assume it won't stop you catching it after the test ! They say they are developing a test to show if you have had it already ( checking antibodies I think) it which case you are OK to work in a hospital etc so I presume you won't get it twice .
    The first test is pretty much pointless. You could test negative, walk outside and pick it up from a hand rail, 10 feet from the practice. The antibody test could be more useful long term, if you could then get a certificate allowing you to travel, work with at risk groups, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    He's right though. Whilst we need to do everything we can now to stop the spread of the virus, the measures we are taking now simply aren't a ling term solution. You can't just lock the entire population in their houses/appartments indefinitely and hope we find a vaccine. People will go mad. We'll have a depression, both mentally and economically.



    The first test is pretty much pointless. You could test negative, walk outside and pick it up from a hand rail, 10 feet from the practice. The antibody test could be more useful long term, if you could then get a certificate allowing you to travel, work with at risk groups, etc.
    But a vaccine is not needed before things go back to normal If ppl self isolate and stopped spreading it, just like in China, the more ppl spread it the worse it becomes and the longer it will take to clear up and the more ppl will die as the NHS becomes over stretched due to ignorant ppl and self fish ppl ignoring simple instructions for a short period of time.

    Furthermore I notice how ppl with plenty of money are now running away to remote places in the country spreading it into places that don't even have hospitals.

    If ppl continue to ignor advice, eventually the government will be forced to impose martial law as Italy are having to do as ppl in Italy still continue to ignor advice.

    Ppl think staying in doors for a couple of weeks is bad, well not following simple instructions now will mean they will end up being forced to do it for longer with even more restrictions In place instead of having some tiny bit of freedom like now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosin View Post
    But a vaccine is not needed before things go back to normal If ppl self isolate and stopped spreading it, just like in China, the more ppl spread it the worse it becomes and the longer it will take to clear up and the more ppl will die as the NHS becomes over stretched due to ignorant ppl and self fish ppl ignoring simple instructions for a short period of time.

    Furthermore I notice how ppl with plenty of money are now running away to remote places in the country spreading it into places that don't even have hospitals.

    If ppl continue to ignor advice, eventually the government will be forced to impose martial law as Italy are having to do as ppl in Italy still continue to ignor advice.

    Ppl think staying in doors for a couple of weeks is bad, well not following simple instructions now will mean they will end up being forced to do it for longer with even more restrictions In place instead of having some tiny bit of freedom like now.
    We can't just self isolate for a few months and hope the disease will die out. All that means is that as soon as the restrictions are lifted, there will be a mass outbreak again because there are bound to be people around the world who still have it without knowing. We need these measures now to stop the NHS being overwhelmed by an enormous flood of cases all at the same time but this isn't a long term solution.

    China are:
    1 - Lying
    2 - Going to have exactly the same problem the minute they lift restrictions.

    I think it's going to be a balancing act. First we get the rate of infection under control to a point where hospitals can reasonably manage the number of cases they have. Then we will have to relax and tighten certain restrictions on a pro-rata basis in order to balance life with the capacity of our hospitals.

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    They say after SARS etc the far east countries have learnt to respond to such an epidemic. In the west we have been complacent and have reacted too slowly . You could say that as the trade live wild animals for consumption in open markets in China etc that they cause them as well !!!!! (such as bats ,bush rats , lizards etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    We can't just self isolate for a few months and hope the disease will die out. All that means is that as soon as the restrictions are lifted, there will be a mass outbreak again because there are bound to be people around the world who still have it without knowing. We need these measures now to stop the NHS being overwhelmed by an enormous flood of cases all at the same time but this isn't a long term solution.

    China are:
    1 - Lying
    2 - Going to have exactly the same problem the minute they lift restrictions.

    I think it's going to be a balancing act. First we get the rate of infection under control to a point where hospitals can reasonably manage the number of cases they have. Then we will have to relax and tighten certain restrictions on a pro-rata basis in order to balance life with the capacity of our hospitals.
    If ppl cant follow advice and it becomes even more of an issue than it already is ( which is highly likely) then we are all grounded till a vaccine is made which is estimated to be at the earliest of 12 months away, if we can control it and stop it spreading and Killing a quarter of the population then the government won't have to order martial law, if ppl continue to ignor advice and hospitals become over whelmed like they are starting to, Martial law will have to be introduced so important infrastructure can continue to run other wise the country will shutdown.

    If ppl can't put the nation over their selfishness of going outside cause they are Bored then for obvious reason ppl will need to be forced to stay inside like Italy, Germany, France, Spain are / starting to do, the UK isn't special it will have to follow the rest of the world eventually if ppl can't do as told like they haven't every where else.

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    It won't be received well on here probably, but it really felt like the UK government dithered pretty long in deciding whether or not to lockdown. Over here it seemed they took too long and then the UK decided to carry on without shutting things down for over a week longer, mostly due to it being too inconvenient. That extra week, with an increasing number of people infected and still inclose contact with others, thousands of others in the case of schools and public transport could really make a difference later on. Hopefully not though. It just seems that once you know that a lockdown is the only way forward, waiting a couple of weeks to do it seems a bit weak. The measures taken to keep people paid seem incredible though. Probably better than here where people laid off can only claim 60%.

    Disturbingly, I recently heard from someone who works ina treatment centre in the UK (the actual person, not a friend of a friend of a friend) that the amount of peolel he's seen dying with his own eyes is far higher than the numbers being released. Not sure why they would be under-reporting the numbers. Anyone else heard anything like this?

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    Mortality rate seems to be steadily creeping up (if you can trust the figures). 3% initially and for quite a while but above 4% for a few days now.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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    Le Tiss is being a right tit over this crisis.
    To start with, started saying he didn’t what the fuss was all about.

    And now, refuses to admit he was wrong, compares Corona with the flu saying if we take measures like this, we should do it every year for the flu to protect our elderlies.

    He should stick to football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    Mortality rate seems to be steadily creeping up (if you can trust the figures). 3% initially and for quite a while but above 4% for a few days now.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    Luxembourg looks ****ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    Mortality rate seems to be steadily creeping up (if you can trust the figures). 3% initially and for quite a while but above 4% for a few days now.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    Inevitable as bed space and ventilators are all in use. Hence the need to lock down and stop the spread outside of our homes.

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