Dan Johnson Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 It isn't publicly traded... quiet right, i meant limited and that the accounts are publicly available. My point was really to say it's all very well saying we've made £46million in transfer profit over the 5 years but you cant look at that in isolation, if we made a 46 million loss in the 5 years before that then transfer profit over 10 years is £0. single figures/stats in isolation dont tell the full story. Over the last 4 games we'd be 5th in the table based on results, that doesnt mean we can discount what went before it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neef Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 I think it's been evident for a while now that both the current and previous owners are not the type to pump millions into the club, Everton, Fulham-style. I think that's been the case since Poch/Cortese left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 I think it's been evident for a while now that both the current and previous owners are not the type to pump millions into the club, Everton, Fulham-style. I think that's been the case since Poch/Cortese left.I think the club have been pretty upfront about it but people still seem surprised. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Leeds' Jack Clarke interesting Tottenham and Southampton among host of Premier League clubs Tottenham and Southampton are among multiple Premier League clubs monitoring exciting Leeds winger Jack Clarke, Sky Sports News understands. Clarke, who is only 18, has been one of the stand-out young performers in the Sky Bet Championship this season, impressing a host of scouts with the maturity of his performances. The talented forward only made his Leeds debut off the bench in October, scoring his first senior goal for the Whites in their 3-2 win over Aston Villa just before Christmas. Clarke also scored against Nottingham Forest on New Year's Day before making his first Leeds starts, against QPR in the FA Cup and then Derby in the Championship, earlier this month. Sky Sports News has been told, despite the level of interest in Clarke, Leeds have received no firm offers for him and are adamant he is not for sale. Leeds boss Marcelo Bielsa is understood to be determined to keep all of his key players this month as they look to return to the Premier League for the first time since they were relegated at the end of 2003-04. Bielsa's side sit top of the table on 54 points from 28 games, a single point ahead of Norwich City and four points above third-placed West Brom. Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/11615269/leeds-jack-clarke-interesting-tottenham-and-southampton-among-host-of-premier-league-clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Leeds' Jack Clarke interesting Tottenham and Southampton among host of Premier League clubs Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11715/11615269/leeds-jack-clarke-interesting-tottenham-and-southampton-among-host-of-premier-league-clubs Not sure why this is a story to be honest... Leeds are never going to sell him now and quite rightly so. If (which looks likely) they get promoted, his value will skyrocket anyway, plus if you were him why would you want to leave now. Smacks of filling column inches, in a period where there is little to no transfer activity going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Not sure why this is a story to be honest... Leeds are never going to sell him now and quite rightly so. If (which looks likely) they get promoted, his value will skyrocket anyway, plus if you were him why would you want to leave now. Smacks of filling column inches, in a period where there is little to no transfer activity going on. The story doesn't say Leeds will sell. In fact, it says the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Call me old fashioned but I prefer it when businesses are profitable and financially secure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agree but according to RK we have over 400 people in the building now and they all have to be paid and lots of them are fiercely ambitious and looking all the time for wage increases. Why on earth we need 400 people to run a modest sized football club is beyond me. Sounds like the classic empire building that goes on in all organisations that do not have sufficient external over-sight into what is going on. Very Civil Service like, free money (i.e. Taxpayers or Sky/BT) always seems to bring with it corporate irresponsibility until reigned in by external factors. Bet we could be run well enough with half that number. Wonder what our Corporate Governance performance is like, assuming we have a CG Policy in the first place. There is some evidence of money being needlessly squandered by this e costly and ridiculous pre-match high shows that serve no purpose whatsoever after the first time other than damage the environment and keep a few front row folk warm on a nippy day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 The story doesn't say Leeds will sell. In fact, it says the opposite. Yes I'm very aware, which makes it even more of a waste of time article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Yes I'm very aware, which makes it even more of a waste of time article. No team has ever said they wont sell and then gone on to sell shortly after have they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Clarke might aswell stay put as Leeds will probably win league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Why on earth we need 400 people to run a modest sized football club is beyond me. Not sure where this 400 figure comes from, but total number of employees of the club would include casual and part time match day staff. Those workers certainly will not be earning £25k a year, mentioned earlier on this thread. I suspect the non playing parts of the club are run very efficiently indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 No team has ever said they wont sell and then gone on to sell shortly after have they. Apart from us (VVD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Not sure where this 400 figure comes from, but total number of employees of the club would include casual and part time match day staff. Those workers certainly will not be earning £25k a year, mentioned earlier on this thread. I suspect the non playing parts of the club are run very efficiently indeed. If anything, I expect the non-footballing operations at the club are relatively undersized for a business of such a size and profile. It's such an odd business model because the majority of turnover is contingent on being in the Premier League. There aren't many other businesses where the amount of "customers" can remain pretty constant but where your turnover can suddenly be cut in two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 If anything, I expect the non-footballing operations at the club are relatively undersized for a business of such a size and profile. It's such an odd business model because the majority of turnover is contingent on being in the Premier League. There aren't many other businesses where the amount of "customers" can remain pretty constant but where your turnover can suddenly be cut in two. Well as we have discovered with the whole sorry Pompey saga over recent years, football clubs are pretty much exempt from the normal rules of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 If anything, I expect the non-footballing operations at the club are relatively undersized for a business of such a size and profile. It's such an odd business model because the majority of turnover is contingent on being in the Premier League. There aren't many other businesses where the amount of "customers" can remain pretty constant but where your turnover can suddenly be cut in two. People who watch on TV are essentially customers and that is where the money comes from, they just aren't specific customers of Southampton FC, they are customers of PL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Don't forget agent fees and loyalty payments to players, that will have been a huge amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Don't forget agent fees and loyalty payments to players, that will have been a huge amount. Yeah, because player loyalty has been such a massive aspect of our club in recent years eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Sounds like Higuain to Chelsea is imminent. Hopefully, he chips in with a few goals against those around us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Sounds like Higuain to Chelsea is imminent. Hopefully' date=' he chips in with a few goals against those around us.[/quote'] Everytime I've seen him play for Argentina he's been awful! Don't really follow Italian football so can't comment how good he's been over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Everytime I've seen him play for Argentina he's been awful! Don't really follow Italian football so can't comment how good he's been over there. Pretty decent. He is good striker. For some reason Argentina are not a team, just a collection of good players and 1 incredible one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Everytime I've seen him play for Argentina he's been awful! Don't really follow Italian football so can't comment how good he's been over there. Argentina players go through some kind of vortex & become rubbish for their country. 31 goals in 75 games isn't too shabby though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Pretty decent. He is good striker. For some reason Argentina are not a team, just a collection of good players and 1 incredible one. I almost think they'd be better if they were like Portugal, with just Ronaldo and 10 Cedrics, playing as a team. Also, any excuse to post this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 He's not a bad player, but not sure whether he's still good enough, strong enough and fit enough to be a hit for Chelsea. Only time will tell, but wouldn't be a surprise to me if he's a bit of a flop. Sounds like Milan getting Piatek to replace him for £30m, not sure why Chelsea didn't just buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Everytime I've seen him play for Argentina he's been awful! Don't really follow Italian football so can't comment how good he's been over there. He's pretty much been a 1 in 2 man wherever he's been at the highest level, maybe a little on the wane physically but I reckon he'll score goals. Chelsea have a lot of the ball and a lot of play round the box, plus top quality attacking wide players in Hazard/Willian/Pedro but they just don't get enough people and movement in the box which is what Higuain is all about, he's a proper finisher, both feet and in the air and makes good runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 No actual rumours then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 No actual rumours then? How about an out? https://www.watfordfc.com/teams/under-23s/under-23-hornets-sign-saints-keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 No actual rumours then? I don't even care if the rumours are true or not. Just anything will do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Saints get a mention in some possible transfer activity: https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/23/do-report-fulham-want-sampdorias-poland-international-dawid-kown/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Would love Clyne and Wanyama back if at all possible. Crazy they'd be available given they have the talent and plenty of years left. both would be major improvements on what we have in those positions. Would take Lallana too even if some fans didn't like it. One that many would think is ridiculous, but Janssen at Spurs needs a move. Would be at a reduced price but like Ings think a clean start would do him good. Seen him be decent at times and he just had a rough start at Spurs he never recovered from. There is a goalscorer in there, and he's the high energy hard working striker who'd suit this system. Still young and would want to prove himself. I agree Janssen would suit Ralph's system very well. He's got pace, energy and can score (apart from in a Spurs shirt). He's only 24. Dutch papers are reporting Burnley are after him for 15 mln which is not bad for a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 If they'd accept around 12mn I'd go for it. Could still come good, and even struggling to score he'd be better than most our strikers. Yeah let’s just get a load of cr4p in on 60k+ a week. Not done that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 It's not worked for him at Spurs but I'd try him on loan. Not sure if that's feasible with Kane's injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 It's not worked for him at Spurs but I'd try him on loan. Not sure if that's feasible with Kane's injury. Poch has openly said he’s not in his, or indeed the clubs, plans. Probably similar wages to Austin so if we can ship him out wouldn’t mind Vincent until the end of the season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 I agree Janssen would suit Ralph's system very well. He's got pace, energy and can score (apart from in a Spurs shirt). He's only 24. Dutch papers are reporting Burnley are after him for 15 mln which is not bad for a striker. Surely Mopo n Ralph's styles are similar? So if Mopo can't use him, doubt Ralph could? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 No actual rumours then? - Marcus Bettinelli - Omar Elabdellaoui - Joakim Maehle - Gary Cahill - Martin Skrtel - Chris Mepham - Willi Orban - Joe Aribo - Thiago Mendes - Shoya Nakajima - Patrick Herrmann - Ademola Lookman - Ollie Watkins - Jack Clarke - Rabbi Matondo - Mbaye Diagne - Odion Ighalo - Jean-Kévin Augustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Poch has openly said he’s not in his, or indeed the clubs, plans. Probably similar wages to Austin so if we can ship him out wouldn’t mind Vincent until the end of the season at least. Ralph has said that he is only interested in players with a long term view. I doubt we are considering loans for anyone this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 (edited) Ralph speaks: 'Saints will only enter the market if it helps us' 'SAINTS WILL ONLY ENTER MARKET IF IT HELPS US' Despite their position in the Premier League, Ralph Hasenhuttl says Southampton have no need to enter the January market. "The team have shown that they have more potential in them than people thought," he told Sky Sports. "We didn't have to immediately bring new players in. "We tried to create potential and quality, and I think we did that. That doesn't mean we are not looking, because we are looking, but we'll only do a transfer if it helps us immediately and also for the future. "It's a package. If you find a young player who has potential and quality then we'll think about a transfer. The more important thing in this transfer period is to give players away, to have a committed group that is not too big. "If it is too big, I cannot give every player the feeling that he is important for me. That is what I want to do. "If a new player comes in now, it will take time to get used to our philosophy, so I think the most successful way to work is in the summer [transfer window] where we have a full pre-season and can work six weeks with new players." Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11615639/ralph-hasenhuttl-on-southampton8217s-transfer-plans-new-rules-and-playing-piano Edited 23 January, 2019 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 I don't mind Ralph having more time to sort out the wheat from the chaff. Then, come the summer the club will be in a better position to know exactly what they need. I'm pretty sure we can stay up with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Ralph speaks: 'Saints will only enter the market if it helps us' Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11615639/ralph-hasenhuttl-on-southampton8217s-transfer-plans-new-rules-and-playing-piano I like the rules part - not money fines but time fines - good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 "If a new player comes in now, it will take time to get used to our philosophy, so I think the most successful way to work is in the summer [transfer window] where we have a full pre-season and can work six weeks with new players." Explains why it’s all gone quiet then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Everytime I've seen him play for Argentina he's been awful! Don't really follow Italian football so can't comment how good he's been over there. Messi is pretty aweful for Argentina, dont think it makes him a bad player though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 We were 100% in for Maja but sounds like he may be off to France now. £3.5m and bags of potential. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Inter supposedly interested in Cedric (Di Marzio) https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-su-cedric-soares-del-southampton-per-la-difesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Inter supposedly interested in Cedric (Di Marzio) https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-su-cedric-soares-del-southampton-per-la-difesa Interesting. Just had a quick look & they were apparently in for Darmian @ Utd on loan but the loan fee for 6 months was really high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 So potentially three quite major outgoings. None in. Disappointing so far Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 So potentially three quite major outgoings. None in. Disappointing so far Need to sell before we can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 My football reporting pal in Japan reckons we should be in for the young CB partnering Yoshida in the Japan side. Very young and very handy. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/takehiro-tomiyasu/profil/spieler/331560?fbclid=IwAR34uKGTu26PNOdTIsiOk8HgK52SIJl-ys7B6ILRDpjizNKa1xOC5w1uPCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Need to sell before we can buy. Do you mean like Gabbi? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Inter supposedly interested in Cedric (Di Marzio) https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/inter-su-cedric-soares-del-southampton-per-la-difesa If it is to be believed, the talks are advanced and could happen quickly.............That surely would mean we are going to bring in at least 1 player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 Do you mean like Gabbi? That goes towards paying for Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 January, 2019 Share Posted 23 January, 2019 That goes towards paying for Ings. Hope Cedders goes for a fair whack then Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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