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Skybet are giving odds for promotion from L1 next season. They have 19 teams listed, and the site says 'more teams to be added when participation is confirmed'. There will be one team coming up, and 3 teams from the 4 play off teams to be added. That makes 23 teams. So, who do you think is the 24th team whose 'participation is to be confirmed'?

 

Yep, they're missing from the list of teams.

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Skybet are giving odds for promotion from L1 next season. They have 19 teams listed, and the site says 'more teams to be added when participation is confirmed'. There will be one team coming up, and 3 teams from the 4 play off teams to be added. That makes 23 teams. So, who do you think is the 24th team whose 'participation is to be confirmed'?

 

Yep, they're missing from the list of teams.

 

Surprised they're still going actually, surely they can't be surviving on the 200k/moth that they get from the FL, especially as it's going to stop soon as they no longer have Championship entitlement.

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Skybet are giving odds for promotion from L1 next season. They have 19 teams listed, and the site says 'more teams to be added when participation is confirmed'. There will be one team coming up, and 3 teams from the 4 play off teams to be added. That makes 23 teams. So, who do you think is the 24th team whose 'participation is to be confirmed'?

 

Yep, they're missing from the list of teams.

 

 

And if you can trust the judgement of anyone, you gotta trust a bookie for getting it right. ;)

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71vagabondThursday, May 10, 2012 at 01:26 PM My experiences of Administrators (quite a number) haven't changed. I hasten to add, only buying from them. They move in, make all the easy pruning of staff and costs (subject to TUPE ruling, that prevents a cull beyond a certain number before redundancy and notice becomes due). Make sure the due diligence is done, as far as their fees being paid are concerned, then either have a buyer in mind for a quick sale and if not start factoring monies due at a % of their value and sell off assets at prices not far off liquidation value anyway. 'Ring any bells' We were rightly keen to see the back of the 'Greek bearing gifts' and all the lessons we can learn from their 'economic prowess' but I'm afraid we've ushered in 'Trevor the Tame'....there's nothing that's been achieved in this administration that a senior accounts clerk couldn't have managed. When you're in Admin it's obvious you have an urgent need for cash but only on the back of proving to court there is adequate funding to carry out due process. Given that process normally has a sensible time allowance granted, there needs to be a sensible strategy and a realistic timeframe to work to. For my part I'm of the opinion that when we start to trumpet 'frustrated by slow Fratton firesale' coming swiftly on the tail of selling on our 'prize playing asset' at what might be deemed to be a third of his market value we are entering the Liquidation zone without the announcement....after all don't 'Firesales' herald in 'Closing Down' versions? Now I'm confused........ At the same time we hear 'We will continue to use our sources in an attempt to find a buyer'....simple who's been introduced? 'We have ongoing dialogue with the FL about the way we can work together'....would that be the guy who described Pompey as a basket case and requiring vast sums of money to be saved' then? That makes me feel better. No the truth is we're trying to climb a glacier and the frustration of lack of fire sale income is simply because we're now spending more money than before despite the 'cuts' due to the return of high wage earners, who have no incentive to leave and or cancel their contracts and the escalating 'admin fees' that are probably twice what we got paid for Jason Pearce. This is now a farce beyond 'West End' bill boarding and somebody needs to come to their senses before things get worse. We've got our history and we've had some very happy days in the sunshine....they are banked and can't be sold (lock the trophy cabinet).....make a statement of intent. The club WILL be liquidated say by May 31st if and unless a bid is made, which is acceptable....not by anybody's desirable valuation but in comparison to what will be achieved in liquidation....that will focus attention from any interested party whilst giving say the 'Trust' an opportunity to plan for an undesirable I know but nevertheless almost inevitable outcome, ( in fact one of the options of reforming a new club has already been nullified by this continuous cock up) with the exception of BC making a move, as unpalatable as that is, we at least stand to mount a further and more robust bid to BC if necessary further down the road. The situation is beyond any sensible level of control or commercial candidness and more time will only serve to continue to rack up more unsustainable costs whilst being lumbered with the unsaleable and expensive assets. Call it and call it now! To reach a port we must sail and not drift.

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Now this guy talks a lot of sense

 

I don't know who added the words 'Report Unsuitable' but perhaps the Phew deemed it far too sensible to be passed without a remark ??

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Caught a bit of 'TalkSh*te' earlier and they reported that Birch has today said "it will go to the wire, but a fans takeover is feasible".

 

WTFILN.

 

Pressumably the same TalkSh*te that had presenters saying words to the effect of 'Saints in White with a red sash? What was that about!?'

 

Clueless f**kers.

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Caught a bit of 'TalkSh*te' earlier and they reported that Birch has today said "it will go to the wire, but a fans takeover is feasible".

 

WTFILN.

 

TBF it's the line being peddled but the sensible skates I know, who have actually pledged, don't think there is any chance of it happening and even if it did, the issues remain the same.

 

The can't sell players at the moment as clubs are waiting for the players to become even cheaper as the panic sets in or free agents.

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Iwas in Glasgow recently and got talking to soemone who's family used to follow Third Lanark until their demise.

 

Actually I think Pompey could possibly end up as the Third Lanark of the south.

 

Gone but soon forgotten!!

 

In ten years time.

 

"Didn't Portsmouth have a football team once?"

"Nah...... you must be thinking of Southampton...... They reached a cup final in 2003, must be them..."

"No, they played in Blue!"

"What? Reading..... Brighton.....?"

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Caught a bit of 'TalkSh*te' earlier and they reported that Birch has today said "it will go to the wire, but a fans takeover is feasible".

 

WTFILN.

But Trevor didn't really mean it. He's just winding them up ;)

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and there's a pompey fan on there blaming The News! - for telling people that his beloved club has raped charities again. :?

Would he rather that was kept secret?

Pretty feeble apology from Lampitt too - deflects the blame for this atrocity to his staff.

 

That isn't news to the nutjobs on here, but you can understand why the likes of Ho have found it too uncomfortable to defend the club anymore.

 

There must still be other clubs' fans who don't realise that pompey haven't paid a penny of debt from their cup runs, and have shafted their own community a second time in two years.

 

Any other business wouild have been liquidated months ago - come on Birchy, press that button....halt the madness, for everyone's sake.

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We all said it at the time....'Family Club of the Year'!?

 

The thing is, I am not at all shocked by this. How sad is that? I expect we will see some equally bad headlines coming out in the near future, especially if they do go pop. What is really distressing is, as some of the posters underneath both articles have stated, that TBH and his agent will get paid first rather than the Cancer Charity or Kids Charity. Their best chance of getting any of the cash donated is to wait for liquidation and join the free for all.

 

I do feelm sorry for the fans who donated the cash too, they gave some of their hard earned money in full expectation that it would go to the charity - only to find out that the Dirty Skate barstewards kept it. If I were a Pompey supporter this would be the final straw, how can you possibly defend a team who does this???

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@pn_neil_allen: Here's the link. Another low with charity money kept. This time on David Lampitt's watch. http://t.co/4DTMCgka #Pompey

 

@pn_neil_allen: Lampitt's defence to this latest debacle. http://t.co/rBiYp3tq #Pompey

 

So the 'Family Club' of the year bagged the charity money & spent it on the likes of Husseklep !!!! & people wonder why us Saints fans want this dispecable club bombed out the league.

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@pn_neil_allen: Here's the link. Another low with charity money kept. This time on David Lampitt's watch. http://t.co/4DTMCgka #Pompey

 

@pn_neil_allen: Lampitt's defence to this latest debacle. http://t.co/rBiYp3tq #Pompey

 

FFS they never learn, what a cesspit of a club. Lampitt's (former FA Head of Integrity lol) defence is pathetic. The charity money should have been separated immediately into a different account and paid to charities straight away.

 

How different are the two South Coast 'rivals'. Whilst Pompey are pocketing charities cash, the Saints Foundation has raised £1m plus. Would love it if Cortese paid off the charities out of SFC funds....

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@pn_neil_allen: Here's the link. Another low with charity money kept. This time on David Lampitt's watch. http://t.co/4DTMCgka #Pompey

 

@pn_neil_allen: Lampitt's defence to this latest debacle. http://t.co/rBiYp3tq #Pompey

 

Jesus. The ultimate low. and apparently not even the first time.

 

F**king disgrace. This crap cannot be allowed to continue a second longer than necessary. Liquidate that swamp of a club.

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FFS they never learn, what a cesspit of a club. Lampitt's (former FA Head of Integrity lol) defence is pathetic. The charity money should have been separated immediately into a different account and paid to charities straight away.

 

How different are the two South Coast 'rivals'. Whilst Pompey are pocketing charities cash, the Saints Foundation has raised £1m plus. Would love it if Cortese paid off the charities out of SFC funds....

 

One could argue that it is simply down to differences in clubs fortunes, literally, but for me that doesnt wash.

 

However we may feel about Lowe's stewardship and Fry's administration, I have never heard of sh*t like this going down at SMS whilst we were in admin.

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One could argue that it is simply down to differences in clubs fortunes, literally, but for me that doesnt wash.

 

However we may feel about Lowe's stewardship and Fry's administration, I have never heard of sh*t like this going down at SMS whilst we were in admin.

 

We paid up, the Saints chosen charities were always given thei monies and we never cheated anyone - only Aviva missed out on a few quid... and will now get some more anyway, as the deal was struck that was fair and acceptable to all... what a difference a decent owner makes.

 

Its teh fact that so many of their fans have DEFENDED their clubs actions for so long that make sme want to puke - had they from day 1 expressed outrage, disgust at how the club had done this and all the other financial mismanagement, you could feel sympathy, but not when they have for so long refused to consider these aspects more than a passing slight embarrassment.

 

If tehy had any decency, the trust would pay the charities out of the pledged cash...

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Friday, May 11, 2012 at 10:39 AM These are very small sums. The £350 is probably no more than a couple of days wages for these charity managers. I always avoid paying to charity indirectly via companies if I can. I prefer to give directly to charities that I trust. I'm sure collecting for charity was well intentioned, but a loss making firm should not get involved with other people's money. Better that we give directly on the day. Wouldn't it be nice, if for the good of UK Football's image, a club up the road or the FA made good the shortfall?

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Surely one of us on a wind up?!!!

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The problem here is that PFC (whichever version) seems to treat charity money collected from fans as just another source of both income and outgoings, and so is taking it through the club washing machine, when it should be completely ring-fenced.

 

Disgrace.

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It seems that the PST has gained a total of 335 pledges out of the 1,000 by say they need by the 15th.

 

So at £2.50 a go that's a total of £837.50 that they have definitely raised.

 

Probably fair to assume that 20% will not pay the next £97.50.

 

I don't think they're going to be in a position to offer Mr Birch an option next week...

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@pn_neil_allen: Here's the link. Another low with charity money kept. This time on David Lampitt's watch. http://t.co/4DTMCgka #Pompey

 

@pn_neil_allen: Lampitt's defence to this latest debacle. http://t.co/rBiYp3tq #Pompey

 

100% truthfully, if that were my club, I'd want them punished for it.

 

If you're collecting for charity, your financial position is completely irrelevant. They should never be a creditor FFS, that money should be heading directly to them, every penny, with no problems. What PFC have done is theft pure and simple. Amazed at how little it gets reported and that any sympathy remains, it's fcking disgusting.

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Why are the FA/FL doing f**k all.

 

The FA/FL are a f**king disgrace aswell.

 

Family club of the year,someone is on a massive p*sstake. If this was my club i think i would be concentrating on another sport.

 

C'mon Trev wind the f**kers up.

 

God bless HMRC.

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‘Pompey have been really good in supporting charities in the community. Initially I didn’t think there was a problem and we were arranging cheque presentations.’ (quote from a Charity spokesperson)

 

FFS, how gullible are they???

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@pn_neil_allen: Here's the link. Another low with charity money kept. This time on David Lampitt's watch. http://t.co/4DTMCgka #Pompey

 

@pn_neil_allen: Lampitt's defence to this latest debacle. http://t.co/rBiYp3tq #Pompey

 

And that ladies and gents is how you become community club of the year!

 

Incredible, and the second instance under a different ceo, different owners and different insolvencies... the staff will remain the same so additional shame on them.

 

The fact that we have raised £1m, £1,000,000 through the Saints foundation whilst they are conning partner charities out of a few hundred quid really illustrates how far apart we are. We evolve, grow and prosper... they stagnate, steal, stink and devolve.

 

Staggering really, I imagine Lampitt simply bunged the bucket collections in his boot and headed towards Hornton Heath.

 

The problem here is that PFC (whichever version) seems to treat charity money collected from fans as just another source of both income and outgoings, and so is taking it through the club washing machine, when it should be completely ring-fenced.

 

Disgrace.

 

Whilst the childrens cancer charities still wait for a penny from CVA MKI (2010), pompey continue to take on loanees from man city, feed them and house them... technically skates can claim they have paid the charities as they are included as small unsecured creditors which signed off andrew andronikous cva.

 

In reality though, as all creditors from that administration, are yet to see a penny and trevor is now telling us that cva will now never be honoured and they will be lumped in a % of a % of CVA MKII (if they are lucky)...absolutely sickening.

 

Remember, if you ever read about pompey doing any community work, bringing cancer ridden children onto the pitch and handing them jumbo cheques, or any other initiative that looks decent = pompey will trouser the cash, f*ck the charities over then brush it all aside with some flippant remarks in a local rag by the ex-ceo...

 

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FFS, just shut them down, NOW.

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That's pretty poor right there and surprised the media have not picked up on it. Taking money that was donated with the intention of helping a charity is disgusting. For that thought to even cross their mind says what kind of people they are. No different from stealing one of those charity money pots you see in shops.

 

I actually hope they go under now as they will keep doing stuff like that if allowed to continue.

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Well here is the response I got from the FL have e-mailed them this morning with the links to the latest rip off of local charities. It is just about what I expected in that they don't seem to care one bit.

 

Thank you for your email.

 

The Football League Community Club of the Year award nominations are shortlisted after a review of all submissions is made by a panel of judges. These judges are made up from various sports industry and sports business/media personnel. A full list of judges can be viewed here http://www.football-league.co.uk/footballeagueawards/20120207/judges-2012_2293339_2315323.

 

You can read more about the Pompey Sports & Education Foundation and the work they do here http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/community.aspx.

 

The Family Award is again voted for and decided by a judging panel. We also might add that neither award has anything to do with club finances or spending, rather they are a reflection of the advocacy of families that visit the club and the work that the club has done to engage with supporters via a number of matchday events and activities.

 

Thank you for contacting The Football League.

 

Regards,

 

 

Andrew Pomfret

Customer Services Officer

The Football League Limited

Email - enquiries@football-league.co.uk

http://www.football-league.co.uk

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"rather they are a reflection of the advocacy of families that visit the club and the work that the club has done to engage with supporters via a number of matchday events and activities."

 

Activities like raising money for charity for example?

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