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The response to this e-mail to the Football League should be interesting...

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

It was good to see the Football League have taken action against Portsmouth for diluting their failed 2010 CVA with a 2012 CVA. I agree with the need for a points penalty and also the other conditions laid out before any takeover is accepted by the Football League.

 

However... diluting a failed CVA with a new CVA amounts to exactly the same as not agreeing a CVA in the first place.

 

When teams in the past have failed to exit administration with a CVA they have received heavier points deductions than the recent -10 for Portsmouth.

 

For example...

 

Rotherham -17 points

Bournemouth -17 points

Leeds -15 points

 

Rotherham and Bournemouth had -2 points more due to multiple adminitstrations. Portsmouth have now had 3 administrations! 1998, 2010 and 2012!

 

Even leading members of the Portsmouth Supporters Trust (one of the groups that may attempt a takeover) thought it would be more than -10 points. Colin Farmery admitted today that he and Mick Williams thought "it would be -15 or more".

 

Can someone from the Football League please explain this inconsistent approach to sporting sanctions for two offences which amount to the same thing?

 

Regards,

 

...........................

 

If you want to ask the same. Email them here...

 

enquiries@football-league.co.uk

 

Can anyone think of a good way we can get some exposure in the media to these questions?

 

The Football League need to explain the thought process behind their seemingly inconsistent sporting sanctions.

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@pn_neil_allen: Off with #Pompey tomorrow morning to cover their tour to Spain and Gibraltar. Could be up to 8 triallists on flight! Will keep you informed!

 

 

 

I take it that this could their flight then? The plucky few all pulling together to get their flight off the ground! :D

 

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They are claiming it is all being paid for by sponsors/host team etc. BUT... they said the same on previous tours whilst in financial problems and their accounts showed the club were billed some of the money. If that is the case again, I don't see how a club in admin can justify to its creditors a trip to Spain for a week.

 

I think it depends on how many timeshares they sell :?

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@pn_neil_allen: Off with #Pompey tomorrow morning to cover their tour to Spain and Gibraltar. Could be up to 8 triallists on flight! Will keep you informed!

 

One of those Triallists ive heard is Simon Gillett

 

Doncaster manager Dean Saunders...

 

“I wanted to sort something out with Gilly but we’ve spoken to his agent and another club has been in. What they’re offering him is way out of our price range so he won’t be coming back to us I’m afraid."

 

http://www.southyorkshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/saunders-confirms-attempts-to-bring-gillett-back-to-doncaster-rovers-are-over-1-4735038

 

If he ends up at Pompey, it is ridiculous! They should be using youth team players, not outbidding fellow relegated clubs with bids "way out of their price range".

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Doncaster manager Dean Saunders...

 

“I wanted to sort something out with Gilly but we’ve spoken to his agent and another club has been in. What they’re offering him is way out of our price range so he won’t be coming back to us I’m afraid."

 

http://www.southyorkshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/saunders-confirms-attempts-to-bring-gillett-back-to-doncaster-rovers-are-over-1-4735038

 

If he ends up at Pompey, it is ridiculous! They should be using youth team players, not outbidding fellow relegated clubs with bids "way out of their price range".

 

After those comments from Saunders, I fully expect it to be Pompey who have offered the wages. They haven't got a clue and as long as they keep chugging along as they are then they will continue to take the ****, which quite frankly is what they're doing.

 

When you look at what happened to Rangers, a club millions times bigger than they'd ever be, it makes you sick to see Portsmouth still going when their crimes are so much greater. Justice will only be served when they are liquidated and a new club is formed in a random Southern league.

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Doncaster manager Dean Saunders...

 

“I wanted to sort something out with Gilly but we’ve spoken to his agent and another club has been in. What they’re offering him is way out of our price range so he won’t be coming back to us I’m afraid."

 

http://www.southyorkshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/saunders-confirms-attempts-to-bring-gillett-back-to-doncaster-rovers-are-over-1-4735038

 

If he ends up at Pompey, it is ridiculous! They should be using youth team players, not outbidding fellow relegated clubs with bids "way out of their price range".

 

After those comments from Saunders, I fully expect it to be Pompey who have offered the wages. They haven't got a clue and as long as they keep chugging along as they are then they will continue to take the ****, which quite frankly is what they're doing.

 

When you look at what happened to Rangers, a club millions times bigger than they'd ever be, it makes you sick to see Portsmouth still going when their crimes are so much greater. Justice will only be served when they are liquidated and a new club is formed in a random Southern league.

 

Are we perhaps getting a little ahead of ourselves here? If Gillett has been offered a contract which is way above what Doncaster can afford, then how can the club making that offer be Pompey? They can't sign anybody at present, and no player (and certainly no agent, come to that) is going to sign for a club which is (a) under an embargo and therefore not able to sign any players; (b) highly unlikely to be able to pay said wages; and © about to start the season on -10, always assuming they get that far in the first place.

 

Save your righteous wrath; whoever Gillett's signed for, it's not going to be Pompey. If it is, I'll happily consume my share of humble pie; but for any player to sign for Pompey right now would be the daftest thing since General Custer said "Yeah, there's a few Indians over there, but nothing to worry about."

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I was wondering which of the high earners are going on this 10 day jaunt to Spain because surely they should be here finalising their exits as the cooling off period for Chanrai is up next Monday, 7 days time.

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They also confirmed on Solent that NONE of the 'senior' players have gone to Spain.

 

Well...kids tickets are cheaper aren't they? :lol:

 

Gerald Vernon-Jackson said to Cleggie about liquidation...interesting. Also, the Council had Nottarf valued at £2.6M, not the £12M as in the company books...

 

Simon Gillett is on the plane.

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Simon Gillett is on the plane.

 

If true it's time for more emails to the Football League, clear evidence of intent to outbid rivals with cash they haven't got.

 

Meanwhile the delusion about their 'greatest fans' is reaching new heights. Laughable stuff

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I get confused, what with our weekend being Friday & Saturday and all that.

 

So, can someone remind me, was it last week or this week that 3 players were leaving?

 

That'll be last week. And the week before. And the week before that. How much have they shifted off the £20,000 a day wage I'll so far - can someone remind me?

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sorry to be controversial but I've never really wanted them liquidated, I just wanted to see a decent punishment imposed for the blatant criminality and cheating.

 

If you'd asked me a while back when it looked like they could hang onto their Championship status, I'd have said I wanted to see them starting in League One with about -15.

Let's not forget that it wouldn't have required too much for us to be facing the nightmare scenario of starting in the same divison as them in a few weeks - that would've been grossly unfair.

 

So on that basis, we are not far off the punishment that I hoped to see.

If you add in the financial restrictions then perhaps we are there.

 

If anyone still thinks they've got away with it - they've plummeted through two divisions and are potless, plus our change in fortunes has just compounded the dwindling few's misery.

 

So for me justice has almost been done - all we need now is some sort of apology or admission of guilt and I'm happy, and from the way their fans were throwing coins and abuse out of the South Stand on our final visit to fortress fatpipes, I can see we are nearly there...

 

I have no wish to see them saved, I certainly won't shed tears if HMS Liquidation cruises quietly past the Round Tower, the damage has all been self-harm with full fan support.

But I see their current state as a pretty decent punishment, and the restrictions should halt any thoughts of a repeat.

 

 

 

 

Put me down for August 2nd. :)

 

 

For me their ill-gained Cup win also has to be expunged from the record books.

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I get confused, what with our weekend being Friday & Saturday and all that.

 

So, can someone remind me, was it last week or this week that 3 players were leaving?

Come on Phil keep up its ALWAYS next week!

And they almost got rid of three. Two is the new three.

They way they do Maths in poorsmouth they probably think they did get rid of three!

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Sweepstake entry.

 

They have taken the **** so often can I be really precise and go for 14:59 on 18th August 2012 - the "crowd" are in place, Bompey and the officials are waiting patiently to kick off, only then to realise that there is no opposition, and a plain white van is heading rapidly up the M275 with the takings from the turnstiles.

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Izale McLeod, Brian Howard and Simon Gillett confirmed trialists - good players at L1 level

 

Players that some other League One teams couldn't hope to match their wage demands. I know that Pompey can't sign these players until the embargo is lifted but the very fact they are even contemplating doing so is deja vu of breathtaking proportions...

 

“I wanted to sort something out with Gilly but we’ve spoken to his agent and another club has been in. What they’re offering him is way out of our price range so he won’t be coming back to us I’m afraid."
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Izale McLeod, Brian Howard and Simon Gillett confirmed trialists - good players at L1 level

 

Wonder if anyone has learnt how to do a cash flow forecast at Nottarf yet?

 

4,500 ST's sold wasn't it?

 

Cannot believe any of those 3 will want to play for less than 5k a week

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Players that some other League One teams couldn't hope to match their wage demands. I know that Pompey can't sign these players until / if the embargo is lifted but the very fact they are contemplating doing so is deja vu of breathtaking proportions.

 

Alternatively from Gillet & Howard's point of view, they may be called trialists, they may be free agents, but at least this way they personally at least get a pre-season with a football club rather than working on their own. Might help them find a proper club to sign for later on

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Alternatively from Gillet & Howard's point of view, they may be called trialists, they may be free agents, but at least this way they personally at least get a pre-season with a football club rather than working on their own. Might help them find a proper club to sign for later on

 

I thought Doncaster wanted to keep gillet.

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I thought Doncaster wanted to keep gillet.

 

Quite right- they did, but were significantly outbid by 'another football club' who's offer they coudn't hope to match: same old skate tactics - gazump other clubs for the best players and don't worry too much about how they'll be paid

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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/mcleod-set-to-be-among-eight-pompey-triallists-1-4059700

 

'We have got to thank the triallists. They are being patient with us in a way and want to go and play for a fantastic club and this is what it is.

 

‘But, at the end of the day, they have come here, they are training, they are fighting for their lives because they want a career.

 

‘If they can impress along the way then there will be something there for them.’

 

Linvoy for England

9:55 AM on 16/07/2012

When are we able to sign players again?? Mokoena and Mullins have left so surely we can bring at least 1 in? Or are the FL waiting until the wage bill is at a certain level before we can sign anyone?

 

:facepalm:

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Quite right- they did, but were significantly outbid by 'another football club' who's offer they coudn't hope to match: same old skate tactics - gazump other clubs for the best players and don't worry too much about how they'll be paid

 

If it wasn't them I wouldn't beleive that any club could do this again

 

:facepalm:

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On the flip side, it does make me smile to see them giving a trial to someone we decided wasn't good enough for us in League One :lol:

 

I wonder if anyone else released at the same time might turn up down there? That list of legends reads:

 

• Lloyd James

• Simon Gillett

• Oliver Lancashire

• Chris Perry

• Wayne Thomas

• Graeme Murty

• Jamie White

• Michael Poke

• Jon Otsemobor

• Jake Thomson

• Kayne McLaggon

• Tom Dunford

• Jack Boyle

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On the flip side, it does make me smile to see them giving a trial to someone we decided wasn't good enough for us in League One :lol:

 

I wonder if anyone else released at the same time might turn up down there? That list of legends reads:

 

• Lloyd James

• Simon Gillett

• Oliver Lancashire

• Chris Perry

• Wayne Thomas

• Graeme Murty

• Jamie White

• Michael Poke

• Jon Otsemobor

• Jake Thomson

• Kayne McLaggon

• Tom Dunford

• Jack Boyle

 

Gillett went on to do a good job in the Championship. He'd be a great signing for the Skates, once again at prices they can't afford.

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@pn_neil_allen: Just landed in Malaga. Can confirm Izale McLeod and Simon Gillett among #Pompey touring party. More info on other triallists in a bit.

 

It's a yummy slice of humble pie for me then! I just couldn't believe that, after what's just happened, they've effectively outbid another League One club for Gillett's services. But then again, I suppose it should come as no surprise. OK, so Gillett will cost a lot less than some of their existing senior players, but how the hell can they make any offers at present, let alone ones which a club like Doncaster can't match?

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Originally Posted by Doncaster Rovers Manager Dean Saunders

 

“I wanted to sort something out with Gilly but we’ve spoken to his agent and another club has been in. What they’re offering him is way out of our price range so he won’t be coming back to us I’m afraid."

 

Players that some other League One teams couldn't hope to match their wage demands. I know that Pompey can't sign these players until the embargo is lifted but the very fact they are even contemplating doing so is deja vu of breathtaking proportions...

 

This is precisely why they need to be put down. They just won't learn. Get the green screens out and call the bloke with the Big Gun. C'mon Trev, do football and the wider business community a favour. Kill the bastards today.

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Alternatively from Gillet & Howard's point of view, they may be called trialists, they may be free agents, but at least this way they personally at least get a pre-season with a football club rather than working on their own. Might help them find a proper club to sign for later on

 

Going away on a "break" .... good way of keeping your fitness level up

 

Then look around for a real Club

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The same Doncaster who had Diouf and Habib playing most of last season yet only paid £2k per week for both?

 

I think they key word in that sentence is PAID.

 

Something which your disgusting club has yet to do to ANY creditors, and probably 75% of the player's [salary wise] since April this year.

 

People in glass houses....

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