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This thread sometimes has some interesting stuff on it, and I know some decent skates who have read it and even learned from it, but moaning about Pompey OnLine, and squinnying to The Football League really makes Saints fans look small time.

 

I feel such a fool now!

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Oh, go on, do quote it a bit.. I can't be a***d to go and find it and it'll annoy them so much..

 

This one is quite funny...

 

Their forum appears to be the same few people going over the same ground over and over again. Desperately trying to appear clever.

In truth they come over as a bunch of first year students the kind that think they've got 20 years experience in whatever field they're studying when they've actually only been to 3 months worth of lectures. Still we know what they say about a little knowledge!

I didn't like Grant either another condesending knob but then why expect anything else. I love the fact that the one thing they want they can't have. A win v Pompey. I know they have all the bitterness about the league titles and the cup wins, but most on that forum were in junior school the last time they beat us, and I think its funny as!

 

Well we can't have a win against Pompey numbskull as we are not in the same division and won't be for a long time yet!.

 

Portsea Island myths - the gift that keeps giving.

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but most on that forum were in junior school the last time they beat us, and I think its funny as!

 

Well we can't have a win against Pompey numbskull as we are not in the same division and won't be for a long time yet!.

 

Portsea Island myths - the gift that keeps giving.

 

Are they really that stupid?

 

****ing hell, I was 41 before I saw them finish above us in the League. I suspect I'll be in my 80's before I see it again.

 

By the time I pop my cloggs (which hopefully will be a number of years yet), the only time I will have seen them above us was a period in which their sucsess was built on sand and may yet cost them their club.............

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This one is quite funny...

 

Their forum appears to be the same few people going over the same ground over and over again. Desperately trying to appear clever.

In truth they come over as a bunch of first year students the kind that think they've got 20 years experience in whatever field they're studying when they've actually only been to 3 months worth of lectures. Still we know what they say about a little knowledge!

I didn't like Grant either another condesending knob but then why expect anything else. I love the fact that the one thing they want they can't have. A win v Pompey. I know they have all the bitterness about the league titles and the cup wins, but most on that forum were in junior school the last time they beat us, and I think its funny as!

 

Well we can't have a win against Pompey numbskull as we are not in the same division and won't be for a long time yet!.

 

Portsea Island myths - the gift that keeps giving.

 

Would it be condescending of me to point out that the POL poster has misspelt condescending?

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Check on wiki. See who has won most South Coast Derbys!!

 

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I've tried pointing this out to some Skates at work, but they've started to include pre football league and other assorted fixtures, which gives them the edge. I've also seen them mention this on another forum. I'm sure this approach will grow amongst the bell ringers, because they do seem to latch onto things enmasse.

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PompeyScot, Today at 3:50 PM.

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Hi all,

 

The minutes are still to be officially circulated by the chairman, but am having many people ask about them, so am posting them up here (I took the minutes, so have access to the approved version).

 

Those present: Steve Tovey (Chair), Bill Gillon (Minutes), Carl Paddon, Sue Maskell, Vern Rickman, Mike Fulcher, Nigel Tressider, Andy Gaffney, Pam Wilkins, Mick Williams, Johnny Moore

 

It was stated that the Fans Conference would now bear the name of Tony Goodall, in honour of his memory and of the fact he was central to the Conference, being its Chairman at the time of his passing.

 

Johnny Moore explained Trevor Birch's absence. When the Conference was first arranged, two or three weeks ago, there was only one bidder (the Trust) involved with the club, so the picture and information to be discussed was clearer. However, of course, this isn't the case any more, so Trevor did not want to put himself into a position where something he said could be misconstrued or quoted at such a sensitive time.

 

Tickets

 

There is a new ticket manager, Fawaz 'Fred' Almumen, and the Conference wishes to put on record formal congratulations to Fred, the club and Trevor Birch for listening to fans and acting on tickets and pricing. Just short of 8,000 season tickets have been sold as of the current time.

 

It was stated that the club has tried everything it can to get tickets out to fans, the club and Trevor Birch doing all they could to ensure tickets are available to supporters who wish to purchase. Fans are also encouraged to buy tickets, if possible, in the days before the game to ensure that queues for tickets at the booths on match days are kept to an absolute minimum.

 

Carl Paddon stated that he knows people who are holding back on buying tickets because of Portpin's presence around the club. Will the club be able to make season tickets available to fans on a pro-rata basis once the ownership situation at the club is sorted? Johnny and Mick Williams answered that this hadn't been considered, but could be an idea. An opinion from others was that, if the Trust took over, woudl people really care about reduced prices for season tickets?

 

Community Mascots

 

As things stand, we cannot do what we did last season with community mascots because of the lack of kit availability, and the fact the players helped with sponsorship last season whilst no players in the current squad, for obvious reasons, have been approached as yet. The Conference still aims to have a sponsorship scheme for this season. Johnny Moore suggested that somebody go to the training ground to speak to Michael Appleton, and Pam Wilkins has volunteered to take this forward as a result.

 

Catering

 

The pricing of food and drinks from the kiosk had been up for discussion, with the Conference suggestion of a pound for hot drinks taken to Lindleys, the Caterers, by Steve Jones, the Sales Manager. Lindleys had rejected the idea, but the club will keep pushing the proposal.

 

A meeting had been held with the club about the overall catering, with the corporate membership catering for the first game of the season against Bournemouth discussed. For the fans, Alan Taylor, Steve Tovey and two representatives from the Chimes bar had attended. Corporate catering for the first game was thought of as under par, with no chilled wine, poor air conditioning and poor quality of food. Overall, it was thought to be very poor value for money, and the quality of catering from Lindleys is an ongoing one. It was pointed out by Mike Fulcher that Lindleys held the justice licence to sell alcohol at Fratton Park, which explains the ongoing contract for catering at the club, but that licence ends in October. It was noted that, if the Trust took over the club, that existing contracts, many of which are thought to be detrimental to the club, will be looked at.

 

Betting Licence

 

A report on Twitter had mentioned that the club had not renewed their betting licence for the stadium. Nobody at the meeting was aware if the licence had not been renewed, Johnny will make further checks as regards the situation.

 

Stewarding

 

Steve Tovey had made Derek Stone aware of an incident at the previous home game as regards a fan and a drinks bottle.

 

It was thought to be an idea that representatives from Conference should meet with Derek to gauge comments from matches, and to raise any comments and concerns with him directly. Pam Wilkins and Sue Maskell to take this forward.

 

A discussion about standards of stewarding at Pompey and other clubs took place. It was noted that, at Colchester, a certain section of Portsmouth fans had purposely antagonised home stewards who, it was felt, had done nothing but made Pompey fans more than welcome at the ground.

 

Any other business

 

Steve Tovey and Johnny Moore will look at the Conference email listing in order to tidy it up, update email contacts and remove anybody who no longer comes to Conference.

 

It is recognised that Conference meetings are not open public meetings, so journalistic attendance, for example, is not encouraged. Any requests for attendance should go through the chairman of the Conference at the time.

 

Update from Mick Williams, Pompey Supporters Trust

 

Mick gave an update to Conference on the position of the PST bid for the club. It is recognised that only so many details, for reason of confidentiality and sensitivity of the situation, can be made public at this time.

 

The Trust have revised their bid for the club, and have matched Portpin's figure of £8.4 million for player compromises.

 

The Trust are working with Stuart Robinson as regards his potential purchase of Fratton Park and the surrounding land, although he isn't the only option and the Trust are also talking to others.

 

The option is still there for the Trust to buy the ground outright themselves, but more pledges are required and the Trust urges fans to pledge as much as they can, with pledges coming into the Trust all the time.

 

Date of next meeting

 

To be arranged

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The Saints wins I've seen at Fratton, The Dell & SMS just be all an illusion.

 

These skates aren't right bright.

I have a feeling POL is not a real place.......just somewhere in LaLa-land pompey fans to go to get away from it all......well, only a couple of them go anyway lol

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hey scottie.....

 

I always thought Steve Grant was a slimy wakner from the couple of games we played against them, just something about him, I think it was having the kind of face you just want to punch. It was him and one of the others, cannot think of his name (I think his scum username began with R) but he was another complete toss pot as well. I would imagine Mr grant will not be visiting this neck if the woods for a while, if he knows what is good for him.

 

we are watching you....lol

 

not a nice thing to say by your lot..

 

on another note...are we approaching D-Day (again)...what happens this time..yet another deadline..?

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Oooh, I know one of the attendees from when I lived in the area... always up for a bit of innaccurate banter even when they were in the Third and Second division. Fortunately lost contact in recent years as I can imagine they'd have been insufferable... Perhaps I should get in contact again..:-)

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PompeyScot, Today at 3:50 PM.

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Update from Mick Williams, Pompey Supporters Trust

 

Mick gave an update to Conference on the position of the PST bid for the club. It is recognised that only so many details, for reason of confidentiality and sensitivity of the situation, can be made public at this time.

 

The Trust have revised their bid for the club, and have matched Portpin's figure of £8.4 million for player compromises.

 

The Trust are working with Stuart Robinson as regards his potential purchase of Fratton Park and the surrounding land, although he isn't the only option and the Trust are also talking to others.

 

The option is still there for the Trust to buy the ground outright themselves, but more pledges are required and the Trust urges fans to pledge as much as they can, with pledges coming into the Trust all the time.

 

 

The Trust have matched Portpin's £8.4M for player compromises???

 

Where the feck have they found £6M from??

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This thread sometimes has some interesting stuff on it, and I know some decent skates who have read it and even learned from it, but moaning about Pompey OnLine, and squinnying to The Football League really makes Saints fans look small time.

 

Who's moaning about them? We allow tame Skates on here. It's them that are made to look small time with their attempts at cleansing their forum of us, largely on the basis that they just can't take the fact that we are once more the top team on the South Coast and they don't wish to acknowledge the truth.

 

Small time it might seem, but you have to weigh up the sheer enjoyment that we derive by poking sticks metaphorically at the village idiots.

 

I'm sure that they would find comfort in the thought that most of us are spotty teenagers whose only conscious recollections are of the Skates superiority over us, but I have witnessed several Saints wins over them in my time, so that during my lifetime, they were at their very peak when I was born. Since then, apart from their very recent sojourn in the Premier League, for most of the rest of my life Saints have been the dominant force. Sorry to disappoint the Skate.

 

No, I'm not really.

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This one is quite funny...

 

Their forum appears to be the same few people going over the same ground over and over again. Desperately trying to appear clever.

In truth they come over as a bunch of first year students the kind that think they've got 20 years experience in whatever field they're studying when they've actually only been to 3 months worth of lectures. Still we know what they say about a little knowledge!

I didn't like Grant either another condesending knob but then why expect anything else. I love the fact that the one thing they want they can't have. A win v Pompey. I know they have all the bitterness about the league titles and the cup wins, but most on that forum were in junior school the last time they beat us, and I think its funny as!

 

Well we can't have a win against Pompey numbskull as we are not in the same division and won't be for a long time yet!.

 

Portsea Island myths - the gift that keeps giving.

 

This Scummer remembers 40years when we were better than them

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Who's moaning about them? We allow tame Skates on here. It's them that are made to look small time with their attempts at cleansing their forum of us, largely on the basis that they just can't take the fact that we are once more the top team on the South Coast and they don't wish to acknowledge the truth.

 

Small time it might seem, but you have to weigh up the sheer enjoyment that we derive by poking sticks metaphorically at the village idiots.

 

I'm sure that they would find comfort in the thought that most of us are spotty teenagers whose only conscious recollections are of the Skates superiority over us, but I have witnessed several Saints wins over them in my time, so that during my lifetime, they were at their very peak when I was born. Since then, apart from their very recent sojourn in the Premier League, for most of the rest of my life Saints have been the dominant force. Sorry to disappoint the Skate.

 

No, I'm not really.

 

Un not only that one day we might have the bigiter stick back! And there will be a Lora Lora poking n smurky grinning:p

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The Trust have matched Portpin's £8.4M for player compromises???

 

Where the feck have they found £6M from??

 

If indeed they have dug up money for all player compromises, it's a big step nearer a realistic trust takeover. There are still major hurdles, but they've gone from 'absolutely impossible' to 'rather problematic' in the takeover scale...

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If indeed they have dug up money for all player compromises, it's a big step nearer a realistic trust takeover. There are still major hurdles, but they've gone from 'absolutely impossible' to 'rather problematic' in the takeover scale...

 

So what are the hurdles now? Assuming the player deferrals are covered.

 

There's the charge on the ground. Chainrai won't let that go for the amount being offered, that's fairly certain. What else?

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So what are the hurdles now? Assuming the player deferrals are covered.

 

There's the charge on the ground. Chainrai won't let that go for the amount being offered, that's fairly certain. What else?

 

Yeah, we've kept our eyes off the ball with the whole POL debacle. I think Kanu is lingering in the shadows somewhere and as you say, Chinny is a big hurdle. But I've lost track of the other issues that were ignored in the trust's bid...

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If indeed they have dug up money for all player compromises, it's a big step nearer a realistic trust takeover. There are still major hurdles, but they've gone from 'absolutely impossible' to 'rather problematic' in the takeover scale...

 

You don't just 'dig up' £6M overnight - christ if they had, that snivelling git Neil Allen would have been ramming it down everyone's throat by now.

 

My guess that it's a vague promise to pay over 4 or so years with the trust just hoping and praying 'something turns up'.

 

I know a lot of you on here think the FL are toothless when it comes to out fishy friends, but I would suspect the FL told them in no uncertain terms that without the promise there would be no Golden Share.

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You don't just 'dig up' £6M overnight - christ if they had, that snivelling git Neil Allen would have been ramming it down everyone's throat by now.

 

My guess that it's a vague promise to pay over 4 or so years with the trust just hoping and praying 'something turns up'.

 

I know a lot of you on here think the FL are toothless when it comes to out fishy friends, but I would suspect the FL told them in no uncertain terms that without the promise there would be no Golden Share.

 

You are most probably right in this assumption - it is a huge amount of money. But even if they manage to strike a deal that is acceptable for the FL what are the remaining hurdles (apart from Kanu and Chinny)?

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You are most probably right in this assumption - it is a huge amount of money. But even if they manage to strike a deal that is acceptable for the FL what are the remaining hurdles (apart from Kanu and Chinny)?

 

They're pretty large hurdles to be honest - like a bigger wetter version of that one in the steeplechase with the water as you come over it.

 

Lets, see - there's the problem of converting the pledges into reality - no mean feat in itself. They've got to get crowds in as outlined in their bid - can't remember the exact numbers, but they were pretty optimistic. They've only budgeted £30,000 per annum for maintenance to Nottarf Krap - overly optimistic in my opinion.

 

Then they've got to go about paying wages, utulity bills, suppliers, VAT and PAYE (I'd imagine the Revenue will be all over them if they are more than 5 seconds late with payments), suppliers - can't imagine much credit being given.

 

I'm sure there's more but that's a start.

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The Trust have matched Portpin's £8.4M for player compromises???

 

Where the feck have they found £6M from??

My guess is they've just taken £2.1m out of their annual budget and will pay it over 4 years rather than the £2m over 1 year they had planned.

 

Can they buy the club and the golden share without the stadium?

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The trust are treating their bid like the fella who can't really afford a posh car. They are rearranging finances, putting down as smaller a deposit as possible and skimping on the options. No thought has gone into the insurance, servicing and finance repayments - just the thought that they will 'own' the car. My brother trades cars, and his experience is that all to often these motors are repossessed inside the year when reality kicks in.

 

Over the last couple of weeks they have lost the PCC loan, likely have to stomach losing Fratton Park and paying a £1m per year (£40k per match) rent to the loan shark and have written off all future parachute payments by matching Chanrai's bid. Fair enough, they are chasing a dream but they have nothing to pay the players, pay Chanrai or the CVA (yes I know :lol:)

 

Admin again before the season is out or a Conference level player budget, we all know which they will choose.

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What really makes them look so stupid is the way they are going on over on their forum, making out they are some of you and not actually realising we do actually know nearly all of them and who are on here anyway; they think they are safe, they think we don't actually know who they are, they think we believe the silly little game they are playing on their site but we really couldn't give a flying ratsarse about them to be honest - but we will be going through them a bit very shortly, and once gone they won't be coming back.

 

Go on then, big man - if you know who I am on POL, ban me. Prove you're not just full of sh1t...

 

Still no luck yet then ****face. I'll give you some help, given that you clearly need it. I have posted today. Should narrow it down some for you...

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I surmise from my carefully "groomed" skate connected to the PST that the FL have told TB that the deal he struck with the ex-players must be met by whoever takes over or they are hoofed out of the league.

 

The FL are not entirely spineless. They just seem to prefer to operate discreetly and let problems sort themselves out. PST honouring the compromise deals is a good thing - it's a step in the right direction where they place a part of their future funds in the hands of their creditors instead of in the hands of Simpleton the wheeler dealer...

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